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Posted on 8/28/22 at 12:29 pm to AggieHank86
Deuteronomy 19 has nothing to do with the defeat of the nations who currently occupied the Promised Land. It had everything to do with the Israelites not furthering their evil practices by (among many other things) permitting murder (cf Genesis 15:16 & Deuteronomy 18:9-14) . Your exegesis is not poor, it is non-existent.
Do you understand the concept of Biblical principles? A principle was established in Genesis 4:10 and further extrapolated upon in God’s word as it was revealed to man. Truth built upon truth, more clearly revealing who God is and His purpose for His creation.
Do you understand the concept of Biblical principles? A principle was established in Genesis 4:10 and further extrapolated upon in God’s word as it was revealed to man. Truth built upon truth, more clearly revealing who God is and His purpose for His creation.
This post was edited on 8/28/22 at 5:16 pm
Posted on 8/28/22 at 12:34 pm to Rex Feral
“Thou shall not kill “ is not in the bible ? Interesting…
This post was edited on 8/28/22 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 8/28/22 at 12:38 pm to DreauxB2015
Posted on 8/28/22 at 12:40 pm to Rex Feral
What does the Bible say about gluttony, Fat Stacey?
Posted on 8/28/22 at 1:02 pm to DreauxB2015
quote:At least in the Ten Commandments, no, it is not.
“Thou shall not kill “ is not in the bible ? Interesting…
The more-accurate translation of that Hebrew verb is “Thou shalt not MURDER.”
Posted on 8/28/22 at 1:17 pm to AggieHank86
quote:Correct. Used first (historically) in Job 24:14. First mention in the Pentateuch is Exodus 20:13.
The more-accurate translation of that Hebrew verb is “Thou shalt not MURDER.”
Posted on 8/28/22 at 1:58 pm to Rex Feral
I’m not one to hardly ever agree with a democrat about anything, and I’ve never voted for one and probably never will, BUT… she does sort of have a point about scripture (scriptures which I find to be morally repugnant).
I don’t think it’s really a stretch that God wouldn’t care about aborted babies, and he might even get some satisfaction from it.
Yahweh Elohim “God” commanded killing of babies, e.g. here he commands Saul to kill infants
1 Samuel 15:3
Yahweh accepts human sacrifices, e.g. Jephthah sacrifices his daughter to Yahweh in exchange for him helping to defeat the Ammonites.
Judges 11:39
Hell, here Yahweh killed babies himself when he murders the innocent first borns of Egypt.
Exodus 12:29
What about Jeremiah 32:35 and similar passages about not sacrificing your children to Baal or Molech Jeremiah 32:35? Well that is because they are sacrificing to OTHER gods. As as we see in Exodus and Deuteronomy Yahweh is a JEALOUS god. He only wants sacrifices to go to him, and not other gods (which are abominations).
I don’t think it’s really a stretch that God wouldn’t care about aborted babies, and he might even get some satisfaction from it.
Yahweh Elohim “God” commanded killing of babies, e.g. here he commands Saul to kill infants
1 Samuel 15:3
Yahweh accepts human sacrifices, e.g. Jephthah sacrifices his daughter to Yahweh in exchange for him helping to defeat the Ammonites.
Judges 11:39
Hell, here Yahweh killed babies himself when he murders the innocent first borns of Egypt.
Exodus 12:29
What about Jeremiah 32:35 and similar passages about not sacrificing your children to Baal or Molech Jeremiah 32:35? Well that is because they are sacrificing to OTHER gods. As as we see in Exodus and Deuteronomy Yahweh is a JEALOUS god. He only wants sacrifices to go to him, and not other gods (which are abominations).
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Posted on 8/28/22 at 2:08 pm to Squirrelmeister
quote:Yes He does. In this one instance. And it still does not support abortion.
Yahweh Elohim “God” commanded killing of babies, e.g. here he commands Saul to kill infants
1 Samuel 15:3
quote:There is no indication that his daughter was sacrificed. Only that she bewailed her virginity. The custom of the Israelites would indicate that she was not sacrificed but rather never married. Even if her father did sacrifice her, the scripture only records what happened, not a commandment from God. And using the time of the Judges to establish a biblical principle is pure folly. The book itself ends with a lament that everyone did that which is right in their own eyes (Judges 21:25).
Yahweh accepts human sacrifices, e.g. Jephthah sacrifices his daughter to Yahweh in exchange for him helping to defeat the Ammonites.
Judges 11:39
quote:A means was provided for them to be saved from God’s just judgement against the nation of Egypt. They rejected His means.
Hell, here Yahweh killed babies himself when he murders the innocent first borns of Egypt.
Exodus 12:29
quote:An outright and utter lie. You can provide absolutely no scriptural reference which indicates God orders the sacrifice of children to Him. He condemns this practice of the Amorites (and the other nations which were in the Promised Land).
What about Jeremiah 32:35 and similar passages about not sacrificing your children to Baal or Molech Jeremiah 32:35? Well that is because they are sacrificing to OTHER gods. As as we see in Exodus and Deuteronomy Yahweh is a JEALOUS god. He only wants sacrifices to go to him, and not other gods (which are abominations).
Your understanding of the scripture is not poor. It is non-existent.
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Posted on 8/28/22 at 2:13 pm to Rex Feral
What about the Koran?
Posted on 8/28/22 at 2:22 pm to Wolfhound45
I wish I was as dumb and ignorant as you. I was gifted with a thing called “reading comprehension” and “intelligence”. Look them up.
Quite the cognitive dissonance to claim “burnt offering” doesn’t mean “sacrifice” for someone familiar with scripture.
Let me help you out.
Book you should read
Else as they say “ignorance is bliss”.
Quite the cognitive dissonance to claim “burnt offering” doesn’t mean “sacrifice” for someone familiar with scripture.
Let me help you out.
Book you should read
Else as they say “ignorance is bliss”.
This post was edited on 8/28/22 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 8/28/22 at 2:30 pm to Rex Feral
I guess she missed the part in the Bible where god would rather you plant your seed in a whore than jack off
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Posted on 8/28/22 at 2:31 pm to Squirrelmeister
quote:Try reading the actual passage. He promised to take the first thing that came from his home as a burnt sacrifice. It does not say he offered her in that manner.
I wish I was as dumb and ignorant as you. I was gifted with a thing called “reading comprehension” and “intelligence”. Look them up.
Durr… “burnt offering” doesn’t mean “sacrifice”… durr
36 And she said unto him, My father, if thou hast opened thy mouth unto the Lord, do to me according to that which hath proceeded out of thy mouth; forasmuch as the Lord hath taken vengeance for thee of thine enemies, even of the children of Ammon.
37 And she said unto her father, Let this thing be done for me: let me alone two months, that I may go up and down upon the mountains, and bewail my virginity, I and my fellows.
38 And he said, Go. And he sent her away for two months: and she went with her companions, and bewailed her virginity upon the mountains.
39 And it came to pass at the end of two months, that she returned unto her father, who did with her according to his vow which he had vowed: and she knew no man. And it was a custom in Israel,
40 That the daughters of Israel went yearly to lament the daughter of Jephthah the Gileadite four days in a year.
Even if Jephthah offered her as a burnt sacrifice, he was not commanded by God to do so. He did so because of his own foolish vow. Not in obedience to God’s word.
quote:You are an expert on being ignorant, that is true.
Let me help you out.
Book you should read
Else as they say “ignorance is bliss”
This post was edited on 8/28/22 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 8/28/22 at 2:47 pm to Rex Feral
She’s an idiot…has eyes but can’t see
Posted on 8/28/22 at 3:04 pm to Wolfhound45
Exodus 13:2
Exodus 22:29
Ezekiel 20:26
I challenge you to read and comprehend these in context with an open mind rather than through the glasses of modern religious indoctrination. Learn some history.
I’ll agree with you that abortion is immoral. The original topic of this thread though was about that gap tooth woman trying to say abortion was backed up by scripture, which I think is fair. We may have to agree to disagree.
Exodus 22:29
Ezekiel 20:26
I challenge you to read and comprehend these in context with an open mind rather than through the glasses of modern religious indoctrination. Learn some history.
I’ll agree with you that abortion is immoral. The original topic of this thread though was about that gap tooth woman trying to say abortion was backed up by scripture, which I think is fair. We may have to agree to disagree.
This post was edited on 8/28/22 at 4:06 pm
Posted on 8/28/22 at 3:26 pm to Squirrelmeister
quote:Sanctify unto me all the firstborn, whatsoever openeth the womb among the children of Israel, both of man and of beast: it is mine.
Exodus 13:2
Are you trying to tell me this is a commandment from God to sacrifice your children? Are you seriously that deluded? Do you not understand what this means? That it is directly tied to the Passover and the Exodus from Egypt? Do you even understand how later God says to consecrate the Levites to Him as a substitute for the firstborn (cf Numbers 3:6-13, 40-51)?
Strong's Concordance - Sanctify
quote:Thou shalt not delay to offer the first of thy ripe fruits, and of thy liquors: the firstborn of thy sons shalt thou give unto me.
Exodus 22:29
Fixed your error. It happens. So again, what are you even attempting to say here? Are you trying to say that the Israelites were ordered to abort their firstborn? Do you understand what a metaphor is? And have you failed to apply the subsequent passage from Numbers 3:9-13? Because if they did this then Jesus (who was the firstborn of Mary and Joseph) would have been aborted.
quote:And I polluted them in their own gifts, in that they caused to pass through the fire all that openeth the womb, that I might make them desolate, to the end that they might know that I am the Lord.
Ezekiel 20:26
Fixed my error. Again, they are being punished for wickedness. They are on the cusp of going into Babylonian captivity for their disobedience in following Canaanite fertility practices and rites. God is not commanding them to murder their firstborn children. You have no passage that directs them to do this. They are following the practices of the nations that occupied the Promised Land before them (cf Deuteronomy 18:9-14).
This post was edited on 8/28/22 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 8/28/22 at 3:28 pm to Rex Feral
Why are we tracking what this Golden Corral queen is putting out there anyway?
Posted on 8/28/22 at 3:44 pm to Rex Feral
She is going to be in for a rude awakening at the final judgment day.
Thou shalt not kill.
Thou shalt not kill.
Posted on 8/28/22 at 4:11 pm to Squirrelmeister
quote:
1 Samuel 15:3
In 1 Sam 15, Saul was ordered to destroy the Amalekites due to the events of Exodus 17. In addition, Saul disobeyed God and did not kill king Agag and his descendants, but instead:
in verse 8 of the same chapter it says that Saul takes him alive. This grieved the Lord and Samuel who then has to finish the task commanded by YHVH by verse 32 Samuel hacks Agag into pieces because "As your sword has made women childless, so shall your mother be childless" speaking of Agag's sins.
However, as we see later in the book of Esther, Haman, the son of Hammedatha (an Agagite) - Yes a decendant of Agag, that of the Amalketies who were supposed to be wiped out due to their generational curse to destroy Israel, tries to carry out a Satanic plot to further destroy the Jews and the lineage of Jesus Christ.
The Lords (YHVH)'s wisdom in issuing a command that he knew would unfold in the time of Saul would not have taken place in the time of Esther and Mordecai if Saul had obeyed His voice.
Posted on 8/28/22 at 4:13 pm to Wolfhound45
I typed verse 9 instead of 29 of exodus. You looked up the wrong verse of Ezekiel. You looked up Ezekiel 26:20 but I had referenced Ezekiel 20:26. Yahweh caused the rebelling Israelites to sacrifice their firstborns passing them over the fire in order to desolate them so they’d know that he is Yahweh. Curious to know how that isn’t the LORD-sanctioned killing of babies.
This post was edited on 8/28/22 at 4:42 pm
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