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re: Supreme Court Rules for Trump
Posted on 3/4/24 at 4:57 pm to Pettifogger
Posted on 3/4/24 at 4:57 pm to Pettifogger
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A strong man tried to use his private militia to stop democracy and you're concerned about a court trying to keep him from doing it again?
Please tell me this isn't your actual opinion, mate
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Posted on 3/4/24 at 4:57 pm to Dirk Dawgler
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Supreme Court Rules for Trump
Sad day for the eunuch SloProFro
Equally sad for the conspiracy nutters on here who assured me just yesterday that the Global Illuminati had already decided against Trump on this one so that Nikki Haley could be the Republican nominee.
Posted on 3/4/24 at 5:28 pm to Dirk Dawgler
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SloProFro
Complete sgit show of a moran
Posted on 3/4/24 at 6:44 pm to ChatGPT of LA
You boys suffer from short term memory loss.
The U.S. Senate on Saturday acquitted former President Donald Trump on an impeachment charge of inciting an insurrection. The acquittal comes more than a month after a mob of Trump supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol as lawmakers were counting the electoral results that certified Trump's loss.Feb 13, 2021
Congress has already made their attempt and lost .....
Democrats were told not to step on their dicks and they ignored all reason .....
Next SCOTUS decision will cover Double Jeopardy.
The U.S. Senate on Saturday acquitted former President Donald Trump on an impeachment charge of inciting an insurrection. The acquittal comes more than a month after a mob of Trump supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol as lawmakers were counting the electoral results that certified Trump's loss.Feb 13, 2021
Congress has already made their attempt and lost .....
Democrats were told not to step on their dicks and they ignored all reason .....
Next SCOTUS decision will cover Double Jeopardy.
Posted on 3/4/24 at 7:04 pm to LSU5508
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Supreme Court Rules for Trump
9-0 on top of that! I am damn happy to be wrong about the liberal justices voting against Trump.
Posted on 3/4/24 at 7:54 pm to LSU5508
Accidental downvote? 
You have to wonder what the establishment tries next. Even if they save it for an October surprise, Trump Train 3.0 is going to get so much steam especially after tomorrow.
You have to wonder what the establishment tries next. Even if they save it for an October surprise, Trump Train 3.0 is going to get so much steam especially after tomorrow.
This post was edited on 3/4/24 at 7:55 pm
Posted on 3/4/24 at 8:14 pm to Dirk Dawgler
[img]Sad day for the eunuch SloProFro[/img]
And others with terminal TDS. Dems and RINO supporters included. Take time to GFY, then have a hard think about what the best option is going forward. Policy over personality? Continuing the destruction of the US?
And others with terminal TDS. Dems and RINO supporters included. Take time to GFY, then have a hard think about what the best option is going forward. Policy over personality? Continuing the destruction of the US?
This post was edited on 3/4/24 at 8:39 pm
Posted on 3/4/24 at 8:24 pm to ChatGPT of LA
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SloProFro
Complete sgit show of a moran
He aint dumb. In fact, give him some charisma and he would be dangerous.
But he argues just to argue too often.
Posted on 3/4/24 at 8:36 pm to LSU5508
Yes....but will the woke states give a frick about that ruling? Scotus has no real power...and the fed gov that is riddled with Tds will not interfere whatsoever with states taking trump off the ballot.
The only legit response should be the states like Texas and Florida taking the Democrat candidate off the ballot.
The only legit response should be the states like Texas and Florida taking the Democrat candidate off the ballot.
This post was edited on 3/4/24 at 8:43 pm
Posted on 3/4/24 at 10:35 pm to bluedragon
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Congress has already made their attempt and lost .....
Exactly. If the mental midget shortsighted Dems had any patience they could have waited to bring up the Insurrection clause and tried Trump on it at a later date. Congress has already made their decision on the 14 amendment in regards to Trump.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 7:50 am to The Cool No 9
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You have to wonder what the establishment tries next.
They are trying Russia collusion again...heard it yesterday
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Posted on 3/5/24 at 7:54 am to The Cool No 9
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You have to wonder what the establishment tries next. E
Congressional legislation.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 8:00 am to SlowFlowPro
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Congressional legislation.
Ah, the first cousin to legislative legislation.
I do worry what John Roberts promised to wrangle those last two votes.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 8:02 am to bluedragon
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The U.S. Senate on Saturday acquitted former President Donald Trump on an impeachment charge of inciting an insurrection. The acquittal comes more than a month after a mob of Trump supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol as lawmakers were counting the electoral results that certified Trump's loss.Feb 13, 2021
Congress has already made their attempt and lost .....
Democrats were told not to step on their dicks and they ignored all reason .....
Next SCOTUS decision will cover Double Jeopardy.
I actually do not think double jeopardy would apply here, but that is due more to SCOTUS showing an aversion to any actual protections under double jeopardy.
Now the quick MSM and DemLib response is that the courts have already ruled that impeachment v criminal does not result in a double jeopardy situation. That is misleading. The court did rule that an acquittal in criminal courts did not preclude a subsequent impeachment charge due to double jeopardy.
What has not been ruled on and what remains a question is whether an acquittal on impeachment charges precludes subsequent criminal prosecution. That has not been answered (based on my knowledge) and in this instance would have to blend in immunity.
tl;dr dems are evil scum who will stop at nothing to bastardize our justice system in order to "get Trump".
Posted on 3/5/24 at 8:12 am to shinerfan
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Ah, the first cousin to legislative legislation.
Congressional as opposed to state, bubba.
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I do worry what John Roberts promised to wrangle those last two votes.
...uh...what?
Posted on 3/5/24 at 8:15 am to flownthecoop
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I actually do not think double jeopardy would apply here, but that is due more to SCOTUS showing an aversion to any actual protections under double jeopardy.
What does double jeopardy have to do with anything related to this decision?
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The court did rule that an acquittal in criminal courts did not preclude a subsequent impeachment charge due to double jeopardy.
Which case?
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What has not been ruled on and what remains a question is whether an acquittal on impeachment charges precludes subsequent criminal prosecution.
The Constitution's words are pretty clear the 2 concepts are unrelated and nothing in the impeachment process precludes criminal prosecution.
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Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 8:23 am to SlowFlowPro
Double jeopardy was brought up in the post I replied to that mentioned the impeachment and acquittal following Jan 6th.
Do your own research. I have a plane to catch but if I desire to provide it that is a courtesy and not a requirement.
The Constitution is not clear on the interrelations of impeachment vs criminal which is why there is debate on the topic in the first place. It has long been held / assumed that someone convicted under the impeachment process can be subject to criminal prosecution.
What has not been litigated is whether acquittal through impeachment prevents further criminal prosecution on the same charges, particularly when the accused has immunity protections arising from the office they held whilst they were impeached.
We are well beyond 5th grade interpretation of the US Constitution and there is little to no precedent to go on.
Do your own research. I have a plane to catch but if I desire to provide it that is a courtesy and not a requirement.
The Constitution is not clear on the interrelations of impeachment vs criminal which is why there is debate on the topic in the first place. It has long been held / assumed that someone convicted under the impeachment process can be subject to criminal prosecution.
What has not been litigated is whether acquittal through impeachment prevents further criminal prosecution on the same charges, particularly when the accused has immunity protections arising from the office they held whilst they were impeached.
We are well beyond 5th grade interpretation of the US Constitution and there is little to no precedent to go on.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 8:25 am to flownthecoop
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The Constitution is not clear on the interrelations of impeachment vs criminal
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Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office
It even goes on to create more specifics separating impeachment-removal and criminal prosecution.
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the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.
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It has long been held / assumed that someone convicted under the impeachment process can be subject to criminal prosecution.
Because the words of the Constitution LITERALLY state as much
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What has not been litigated is whether acquittal through impeachment prevents further criminal prosecution on the same charges
There is no logical basis in this argument based on the actual words of the Constitution. It goes out of its way to separate the 2 concepts entirely.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 8:41 am to SlowFlowPro
The Democrats are doing their best to start a Civil War. If they prevent Trump from running I suspect there will be trouble on election day.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 2:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
It is somewhat interesting that you seem obsessed with taking what I inform you of, quoting me, and then adding notes agreeing with me and then somehow conclude that I have no idea what I am talking about.
I’ve come across your type before. Quit trying to confuse the facts and the subject matter in an attempt to confuse others. My words were and are clear. Maybe not for you, but for the generally educated.
What you quote says that the impeachment process ends at acquittal or conviction. Agreed.
What is unclear is how it interrelates to criminal proceedings. I agree that if convicted by the Senate then the individual is then subject to criminal proceedings.
What is unclear is whether the accused can be subject to criminal proceedings from official acts if the accused as been “acquitted” by the impeachment process. That is the heart of the immunity case to be heard next month.
At least try and make an effort to keep up.
I’ve come across your type before. Quit trying to confuse the facts and the subject matter in an attempt to confuse others. My words were and are clear. Maybe not for you, but for the generally educated.
What you quote says that the impeachment process ends at acquittal or conviction. Agreed.
What is unclear is how it interrelates to criminal proceedings. I agree that if convicted by the Senate then the individual is then subject to criminal proceedings.
What is unclear is whether the accused can be subject to criminal proceedings from official acts if the accused as been “acquitted” by the impeachment process. That is the heart of the immunity case to be heard next month.
At least try and make an effort to keep up.
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