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re: Tariffs dont work!! GM moving production of Buick crossover to US from China

Posted on 1/22/26 at 4:12 pm to
Posted by roadkill
East Coast, FL
Member since Oct 2008
2100 posts
Posted on 1/22/26 at 4:12 pm to
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the GAY Kenyan


FIFY
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
12198 posts
Posted on 1/22/26 at 4:17 pm to
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Tell me again how tariffs dont work


Sure. Be glad to.

The average Chinese factory worker makes roughly $6 an hour.

The average American factory worker makes about $17 an hour.

That's almost three times the labor cost to make them here vs making them there. Not to mention the lower cost of real estate, facilities, and regulations there.

So one of two things (or some combination of the two) has got to now happen:

1. Buick has to decide to take a massive loss in profits on the "next-generation Buick" (whatever that means) line, or...

2. They'll be significantly more expensive than they otherwise would be.

But hey, we get several hundred what amount to minimum wage jobs we didn't have in Kansas City in a labor market in which employers already can't fill the minimum wage job openings that already exist.

What a bargain! "Muh 'Merca 'Fust, Yawl!"

So, yeah. Tariffs suck toad arse.

You're welcome.
This post was edited on 1/22/26 at 4:19 pm
Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
1719 posts
Posted on 1/22/26 at 4:21 pm to
You could have saved yourself a lot of typing and just admitted that you don’t understand economics lol but you removed all doubt with that nonsense
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
29523 posts
Posted on 1/22/26 at 4:21 pm to
Time to impeach Trump for making Americans go back to work.
Posted by TigersHuskers
Nebraska
Member since Oct 2014
15523 posts
Posted on 1/22/26 at 4:24 pm to
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wackatimesthree


You sound like a bitch
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
12198 posts
Posted on 1/22/26 at 4:25 pm to
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You could have saved yourself a lot of typing and just admitted that you don’t understand economics lol but you removed all doubt with that nonsense


I notice you don't offer any specifics.

What did I say that was wrong?

You moron.
Posted by Jugbow
Member since Nov 2025
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Posted on 1/22/26 at 4:25 pm to
He is one
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
12198 posts
Posted on 1/22/26 at 4:26 pm to
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You sound like a bitch


Well, you ARE a bitch.

And a stupid one at that.

Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
12198 posts
Posted on 1/22/26 at 4:27 pm to
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He is one




Possibly the dumbest poster on the board has joined us.

And still, no one has any specifics to contradict what I posted. Just insults.

Hive-mind moron figs.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
12198 posts
Posted on 1/22/26 at 4:28 pm to
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Time to impeach Trump for making Americans go back to work.


This makes Americans go back to work?

You may have missed the detail that employers can't fill low wage jobs as it is.

Exactly how is this going to force someone to go back to work?
Posted by John somers
Los Proxima
Member since Oct 2024
1265 posts
Posted on 1/22/26 at 4:28 pm to
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Where's he been?


Segregated from gen pop because of...you know.
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5937 posts
Posted on 1/22/26 at 4:36 pm to
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You sound like a bitch


Insults might not be the best way to prove your point.

Why don't you look up the ISM Manufacturing Index and see whether or not US manufacturing activity is expanding or contracting.

This post was edited on 1/22/26 at 4:37 pm
Posted by N.O. via West-Cal
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2004
7740 posts
Posted on 1/22/26 at 4:58 pm to
If you subsidize something, you will get more of it. By disincentivizing production in, say, China, you will get less of it. Not necessarily a bad thing, but that tells us nothing about the overall impact of the tariff at issue or tariffs in general. What is the impact on prices? What about the impact on other industries or businesses who don't directly benefit from the protectionist policy? Classic example: Sugar cane growers benefit from sugar tariffs, but candy makers are harmed by them.

If you only look at the impact on the specific business or industry favored by the tariffs, you would think tariffs are always a net good, but that generally is not the case. It would be like looking only at the fast food workers in California who retained their jobs when the minimum wage was raised to $20 per hour and not looking at whether employees lost their jobs or were never hired in the first place.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
55192 posts
Posted on 1/22/26 at 5:03 pm to
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I'm not sure why any domestic auto companies are building vehicles overseas. It can't simply be over wages for hourly employees.

There was a time 20-30 years ago when the UAW had wages for autoworkers in the top percentile of union jobs but over the past 20 years the UAW autoworker's wages have flatlined when inflation is factored in. The average hourly wage for a UAW autoworker today is $33/hour and new hires start under $20/hour.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
65758 posts
Posted on 1/22/26 at 5:05 pm to
Lol how many of those they sell a year?


Posted by LJBurton
Member since Feb 2005
1390 posts
Posted on 1/22/26 at 5:15 pm to
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wackatimesthree


So, by your logic we should not build anything in the US, and should outsource everything to China, because their workers are willing to work for $6 per hour.

That's a fantastic idea.
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
23712 posts
Posted on 1/22/26 at 5:44 pm to
Where’s that drunk, wifebeater Roger? This is right up his alley
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
5870 posts
Posted on 1/22/26 at 6:34 pm to
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The average Chinese factory worker makes roughly $6 an hour. The average American factory worker makes about $17 an hour.


Yep.

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That's almost three times the labor cost to make them here vs making them there. Not to mention the lower cost of real estate, facilities, and regulations there.


Real estate is laughable as it is owned by the government in china. They get their cut. Regulations are being bitch slapped as we speak.

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So one of two things (or some combination of the two) has got to now happen: 1. Buick has to decide to take a massive loss in profits on the "next-generation Buick" (whatever that means) line, or...


The tariffs make it more profitable to manufacture them here. That is why they are moving production here. Simple math.

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2. They'll be significantly more expensive than they otherwise would be.


Not with the tariffs. Again, that is why they are bringing the production back. [

quote]So, yeah. Tariffs suck toad arse.[/quote]

Well they are creating an economic boom so the GDP says you are not very bright.

Your welcome.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
142770 posts
Posted on 1/22/26 at 6:37 pm to
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5% GDP....we are crashing any minute.


That’s Q4. Q1 of 2026 forecasting 6%.
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