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re: The cognitive test Trump keeps asking Biden to take
Posted on 7/22/20 at 7:57 pm to Tunasntigers92
Posted on 7/22/20 at 7:57 pm to Tunasntigers92
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Is the test administered by a psychologist or psychiatrist?
Pretty much anyone can give the MOCA. it’s only slightly more difficult than the MMSE, also a 30 item test. For the TBI exams I’m currently doing the most (at least before COVID), our psychiatrists will give a MOCA and then refer the patient to me for more comprehensive testing if needed. As I said, the MOCA is a screening test to see if someone needs further evaluation.
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Posted on 7/22/20 at 7:58 pm to PsychTiger
I’ll take half of Washington. You take the other. 
Posted on 7/22/20 at 7:59 pm to TigerDoc
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Sure, but I can score 30/30 on MoCA so I'm good according to GEOTUS.
You'd have to pull your lips off of texshidder's cock and your ball out of decatur's mouth first, though.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 7:59 pm to TigerDoc
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it seems to be a lot better than the MMSE which they used to emphasize (too much orientation, not enough executive function?).
Indeed. At least the MOCA has a bit of Trails B on it. And most Alzheimer’s patients cannot complete Trails B, let alone understand it.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 8:00 pm to PsychTiger
The administration is easy. One needs to have some training in memory and cognition and statistics to interpret the results and make recommendations though.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 8:02 pm to PsychTiger
I took that test. I breezed threw it and I'm 67 years old. It's not hard at all. I think Joe would have problems with it. LOL
Posted on 7/22/20 at 8:02 pm to PsychTiger
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PsychTiger
For the test in question, could you give an example of what one might be?
Posted on 7/22/20 at 8:05 pm to WS Bengal
They are meant to be easy. The goal is to screen for actual impairment. A 90 year-old without dementia or brain damage should be able to screen out.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 8:05 pm to Flashback
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I would prefer the Allen cognition test.
Occupational Therapist?
Posted on 7/22/20 at 8:10 pm to Tunasntigers92
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For the test in question, could you give an example of what one might be?
A simple google image search will show you the entire test. It’s in the public domain.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 8:13 pm to LSU Patrick
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They are meant to be easy. The goal is to screen for actual impairment. A 90 year-old without dementia or brain damage should be able to screen out.
High sensitivity, low specificity.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 8:14 pm to PsychTiger
Believe in science. 
Posted on 7/22/20 at 8:16 pm to PsychTiger
Just looked at each test, are these the ones Trump has bragged about passing, or are these just the ones he wants Biden to take?
Posted on 7/22/20 at 8:16 pm to TigerDoc
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Sure, but I can score 30/30 on MoCA so I'm good according to GEOTUS.
Right dumbshit, the point is that Biden should take it tomorrow since you admit is so easy.
This is too fricking easy.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 8:18 pm to Tunasntigers92
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Just looked at each test, are these the ones Trump has bragged about passing, or are these just the ones he wants Biden to take?
Both
Posted on 7/22/20 at 8:20 pm to PsychTiger
I see a lot of talk from people saying they have administered the tests. But, I don't see these people saying they have the cognitive skills or courage to take the test.
I've got you frickers figured out, and I am keeping my eyes on you.
I've got you frickers figured out, and I am keeping my eyes on you.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 8:20 pm to LSU Patrick
Please test RBG.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 8:24 pm to SOKAL
I will gladly take this or any other cognitive test and then compare my scores to yours.
Note: I already know the answers and/or participated in the trials, as an administrator, to create some of these tests. As such, I would essentially be cheating.
Note: I already know the answers and/or participated in the trials, as an administrator, to create some of these tests. As such, I would essentially be cheating.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 8:25 pm to TigerDoc
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I got a kick from him claiming the "last 5 questions" of MoCA (the orientation questions) were the hardest.
Assuming we watched the same interview he stated that the questions got harder as it went along. Is that incorrect?
Posted on 7/22/20 at 8:26 pm to LSU Patrick
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Both
Wow
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