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re: The level of naivety regarding the Iranian conflict is disturbing

Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:43 am to
Posted by somethingdifferent
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:43 am to
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Creates terrorists
"creates"

Seriously, what's wrong with you? Do you not understand how the world works? Do you think that people in this country loot Apple/Nike stores because of "oppression."

The "terrorists" want to destroy you because of who you are. They couldn't care less about your western liberal political stance on not projecting power

NAIVE
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:44 am to
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Seriously, what's wrong with you?


I understand how the world works, you do not.

Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1928 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:44 am to
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I find it hard to believe you haven't met any Iranian Americans unless you're completely sheltered
What do they have to say about the Iranians who celebrate attacks on Americans and civilians?
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
18948 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:45 am to
Vagacil...stat.
Posted by Faurot fodder
Member since Jul 2019
6842 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:45 am to
You should probably learn English before you try to speak it.
Posted by TigerBaitOohHaHa
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:46 am to
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Literally every argument you are making is from 2003


What you are saying is absolutely a significant factor in this calculation with Iran. We have been lied to before. But it also doesn't mean there AREN'T nukes being built in Iran.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
172179 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:46 am to
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The "terrorists" want to destroy you because of who you are. They couldn't care less about your western liberal political stance on not projecting power


No. They want to kill us precisely for political reasons.
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1928 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:46 am to
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you think Saddam did have WMD
Think? Did the Halabja massacre not happen? Were there not pictures of the WMDs?
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
18948 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:47 am to
How does it work....oh wise sage?
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
4236 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:47 am to
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How old are you? Do you live in a small town?

59. Yes. Would live no where else.

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I find it hard to believe you haven't met any Iranian Americans unless you're completely sheltered
Never asked the Middle Eastern folks I've met here in America. Have been to the Middle East several times on an all expenses paid "tour" thanks to Uncle Sam.

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Sure
Believe whatever it takes to make you feel better about yourself.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
172179 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:48 am to
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Think? Did the Halabja massacre not happen? Were there not pictures of the WMDs?

He didn't have the WMDs that they claimed he had

But he did have chemical weapons. We knew about it and let him use it on the Iranians when he was on "our side"

Gee, wonder why the Iranians might not like us
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1928 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:49 am to
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Literally every argument you are making is from 2003
Does that make it false? Tell me what I said that's false

It's astonishing. People have lost their minds. Look at the OP. Tell me what I said that's factually incorrect. Deal with the factual content not your emotions

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I especially love that you resurrected the bullshite "we fight them there, so we don't have to fight them here" bullshite "war on terror" argument
So you're naive. That's all you had to say. We don't really have enemies who want to destroy us.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
172179 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:49 am to
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Never asked the Middle Eastern folks I've met here in America

You must not know them very well if where they are from never came up in conversation
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Have been to the Middle East several times on an all expenses paid "tour" thanks to Uncle Sam.


I'd prefer that more people don't get a free tour
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
181044 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:49 am to
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ut, what we are being sold is that the masses are smart, beautiful people being held down my the insane mullahs


America is ready to try its hand at "nation-building" in the Middle East yet again. Good thing our track record on that is spotless.
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
4236 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:49 am to
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how the world works
Those that cannot be reasoned with must be fought. That's how the real world works. President Trump tried for months to negotiate with Iran's leaders. They were not willing to be reasoned with.
Posted by Roaad
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Member since Aug 2006
82924 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:49 am to
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creates


If your child gets killed in an Israeli strike, I bet you would be pretty peeved at the people who killed him.

That peevery may just make you join up with other peeved individuals.

It is called insurgent math

You have 20 insurgents, and you kill 5. How many are left?

15?

No.

25. Every bomb that takes out an insurgents leads to 2 more being radicalized by that strike.
Posted by Roaad
White Privilege Broker
Member since Aug 2006
82924 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:50 am to
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So you're naive.
or maybe i fought in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Posted by FTBLFN
Nashville, TN
Member since Jan 2010
5446 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:50 am to
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2. You either fight these fights on American soil or abroad. You don't get the option of "staying out of it." Eventually, these conflicts will reach domestic shores if we are passive


You swallowed the hook.

Giving the neocons that gluck gluck 3000.
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 8:52 am
Posted by RyanMartin835
Thibodaux
Member since Aug 2015
552 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:51 am to
OP never misses an episode of Levin or Sensei
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 8:52 am
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
172179 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:51 am to
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President Trump tried for months to negotiate with Iran's leaders. They were not willing to be reasoned with.

Or we negotiated in bad faith and tried to get them to agree to unreasonable terms. You don't know what went on in these "negotiations"
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