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re: The level of naivety regarding the Iranian conflict is disturbing
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:43 am to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:43 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Creates terrorists
Seriously, what's wrong with you? Do you not understand how the world works? Do you think that people in this country loot Apple/Nike stores because of "oppression."
The "terrorists" want to destroy you because of who you are. They couldn't care less about your western liberal political stance on not projecting power
NAIVE
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:44 am to somethingdifferent
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Seriously, what's wrong with you?
I understand how the world works, you do not.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:44 am to Powerman
quote:What do they have to say about the Iranians who celebrate attacks on Americans and civilians?
I find it hard to believe you haven't met any Iranian Americans unless you're completely sheltered
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:45 am to LSUAngelHere1
You should probably learn English before you try to speak it.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:46 am to Roaad
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Literally every argument you are making is from 2003
What you are saying is absolutely a significant factor in this calculation with Iran. We have been lied to before. But it also doesn't mean there AREN'T nukes being built in Iran.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:46 am to somethingdifferent
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The "terrorists" want to destroy you because of who you are. They couldn't care less about your western liberal political stance on not projecting power
No. They want to kill us precisely for political reasons.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:46 am to JimEverett
quote:Think? Did the Halabja massacre not happen? Were there not pictures of the WMDs?
you think Saddam did have WMD
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:47 am to RogerTheShrubber
How does it work....oh wise sage? 
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:47 am to Powerman
quote:59. Yes. Would live no where else.
How old are you? Do you live in a small town?
quote:Never asked the Middle Eastern folks I've met here in America. Have been to the Middle East several times on an all expenses paid "tour" thanks to Uncle Sam.
I find it hard to believe you haven't met any Iranian Americans unless you're completely sheltered
quote:Believe whatever it takes to make you feel better about yourself.
Sure
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:48 am to somethingdifferent
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Think? Did the Halabja massacre not happen? Were there not pictures of the WMDs?
He didn't have the WMDs that they claimed he had
But he did have chemical weapons. We knew about it and let him use it on the Iranians when he was on "our side"
Gee, wonder why the Iranians might not like us
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:49 am to Roaad
quote:Does that make it false? Tell me what I said that's false
Literally every argument you are making is from 2003
It's astonishing. People have lost their minds. Look at the OP. Tell me what I said that's factually incorrect. Deal with the factual content not your emotions
quote:So you're naive. That's all you had to say. We don't really have enemies who want to destroy us.
I especially love that you resurrected the bullshite "we fight them there, so we don't have to fight them here" bullshite "war on terror" argument
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:49 am to RollTide4547
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Never asked the Middle Eastern folks I've met here in America
You must not know them very well if where they are from never came up in conversation
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Have been to the Middle East several times on an all expenses paid "tour" thanks to Uncle Sam.
I'd prefer that more people don't get a free tour
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:49 am to Bunk Moreland
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ut, what we are being sold is that the masses are smart, beautiful people being held down my the insane mullahs
America is ready to try its hand at "nation-building" in the Middle East yet again. Good thing our track record on that is spotless.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:49 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Those that cannot be reasoned with must be fought. That's how the real world works. President Trump tried for months to negotiate with Iran's leaders. They were not willing to be reasoned with.
how the world works
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:49 am to somethingdifferent
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creates
If your child gets killed in an Israeli strike, I bet you would be pretty peeved at the people who killed him.
That peevery may just make you join up with other peeved individuals.
It is called insurgent math
You have 20 insurgents, and you kill 5. How many are left?
15?
25. Every bomb that takes out an insurgents leads to 2 more being radicalized by that strike.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:50 am to somethingdifferent
quote:or maybe i fought in Iraq and Afghanistan.
So you're naive.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:50 am to somethingdifferent
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2. You either fight these fights on American soil or abroad. You don't get the option of "staying out of it." Eventually, these conflicts will reach domestic shores if we are passive
You swallowed the hook.
Giving the neocons that gluck gluck 3000.
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 8:52 am
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:51 am to somethingdifferent
OP never misses an episode of Levin or Sensei
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 8:52 am
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:51 am to RollTide4547
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President Trump tried for months to negotiate with Iran's leaders. They were not willing to be reasoned with.
Or we negotiated in bad faith and tried to get them to agree to unreasonable terms. You don't know what went on in these "negotiations"
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