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re: The level of naivety regarding the Iranian conflict is disturbing

Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:51 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:51 am to
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Think? Did the Halabja massacre not happen?


In 1988, the USA facilitated Iraqs chemical weapons attacks on Iranians.

Geez, I wonder why they hate us?

Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:51 am to
But we have been told they are 5 years away for 40 years.

Maybe you need to rethink the scope of the lies, and who all is telling tgem.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:51 am to
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Those that cannot be reasoned with must be fought.
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Youre not America First, Comrade.
Posted by somethingdifferent
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:52 am to
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Stopped reading right there
So you think every person who is not in leadership/military in Iran is innocent? Because if you don't think that, then attacking Iran is not unjustified.

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It kills me when people act as if this is just a natural and straightforward solution
It is. It's happened many many times in history - people rising up against immoral, dictatorial oppressors.

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It’s like they read about the American Revolution, drink in some Declaration vibes, and think they had anything at all to do with this country achieving its freedom and foundation


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It’s like the people who believe that if they were born in Tehran or Riyadh would still be born again Christians
What are you saying?
Posted by somethingdifferent
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:52 am to
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I understand how the world works, you do not
So, something I said in the OP is false. Ok, break it down
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:53 am to
If you aren't with us, you are against us logic.

In 2025

Jesus
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:53 am to
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So you think every person who is not in leadership/military in Iran is innocent? Because if you don't think that, then attacking Iran is not unjustified.

Every one? No

Most? Probably

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It's happened many many times in history - people rising up against immoral, dictatorial oppressors.

And many times it doesn't happen. Or there is an attempt and everyone is murdered or jailed so other people don't try.
Posted by LemmyLives
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:54 am to
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USA facilitated Iraqs chemical weapons attacks on Iranians.

Geez, I wonder why they hate us?


The hard liners hate us because of our support for the Shah and his corruption/decadence, no?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:55 am to
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. You either fight these fights on American soil or abroad. You don't get the option of "staying out of it." Eventually, these conflicts will reach domestic shores if we are passive


This.

Youre literally pushing us to being the worlds police force.

Fear has turned your mind to mush

Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:55 am to
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You must not know them very well if where they are from never came up in conversation
I didn't date them. I've talked with you several times here and where you're from has never come up....

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I'd prefer that more people don't get a free tour
So would I. Those that cannot be reasoned with must be fought. That's how the world works. The leaders of Iran were not willing to be reasoned with in the negotiations with President Trump. The leaders claim they are not pursuing a nuke, however they have enriched uranium to 60% when nuclear power can be produced with 3-4% enriched uranium. If they were to get a nuke they would absolutely use it against the Little Satan and the Big Satan.
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:55 am to
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No. They want to kill us precisely for political reasons.
Ok. You are a person who can't be reasoned with. What you are saying is completely false. Go to any terrorist in the desert and they will utter one word to you - INFIDEL. It has NOTHING to do with western liberal politics or not having enough jobs or not having enough water or not having enough land or borders of countries or parliamentary style government or any of that other stupidity. And there are citizens in Iran who cheer when those fanatics attack you.

THOSE ARE FACTS
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:56 am to
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You don't know what went on in these "negotiations"
Neither do you. Do know they have enriched uranium to 60% when nuclear power can be produced with 3-4% enriched uranium.
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 8:59 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:56 am to
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If you aren't with us, you are against us logic.


Well, if you dont walk lockstep with Trump they call you a Democrat.

Which is ironic, Trump is a New York Democrat who took over the Republican part.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:57 am to
Reagan's example of Libya is what we should have been following for Iran.

1. Don't announce shite.
2. Bomb the frick out of their defense installations and government HQ.
3. Call it a day and don't even offer humanitarian aid.


Rinse and repeat until they stop funding terrorism.
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
4236 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:57 am to
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Youre not America First, Comrade.
You seem to be confusing America FIRST with America ONLY. I can most certainly put my Family First and help my neighbor/friend with a common problem.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:57 am to
Yes, but will blow up their shite over there while importing their ideology into this country

Makes no sense.

So we will be fighting them here sooner rather than later.
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 8:58 am
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:58 am to
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You either fight these fights on American soil or abroad.



Iranians aren't coming over here to fight. This is so stupid and is nothing but NeoCon bullshite.
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1928 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:58 am to
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He didn't have the WMDs that they claimed he had
I'm pretty sure you can't prove this but you are creating an entire consequential stance based on this. Wake up

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he did have chemical weapons
Did you know that chemical weapons are WMD?

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wonder why the Iranians might not like us
Does that make it ok when they celebrate attacking civilian targets or Americans?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:58 am to
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You seem to be confusing America FIRST with America ONLY.


Wrong. MAGA crowed about being the anti war party, and utilizing anti-interventionism.

Y'all were dead wrong.
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
4236 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:00 am to
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MAGA crowed about being the anti war party, and utilizing anti-interventionism.
You seem triggered. That must mean President Trump is doing something good for America and American citizens.
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