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re: The Truth About Ahmaud Arbery
Posted on 5/10/20 at 8:54 pm to AMS
Posted on 5/10/20 at 8:54 pm to AMS
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The guy who was clearly trying to run away tried to defend himself when Didn’t let him run away and drew our guns on him. Clearly justifiable homicide.
Bascially "he was the aggressor because he decided to fight back".
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Posted on 5/10/20 at 8:55 pm to JPLSU1981
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they legally did nothing wrong
They did almost everything wrong.
quote:The victim was clearly acting in self-defense after being assaulted by men with guns.
The “victim” clearly attacked these guys
quote:He should not have been put in the position to have to make that decision. This was forced upon him by men with guns. And because of that fact, since "something bad" happened, Jr here is a murderer.
The “victim” unfortunately made an awful decision in trying to attack, and something bad happened.
quote:Quite a story.
End of story
Posted on 5/10/20 at 8:56 pm to the808bass
Naw, it isn’t illegal to make a citizens arrest or stop him for questioning.
Where the guy went wrong is approaching/attacking people with guns and getting into a scuffle with man with gun... not smart, and he lost his life for that dumb decision.
0% chance these guys go to prison for this. I’m not saying I necessarily agree with following a suspected burglar around the neighborhood with guns...but again that’s kind of irrelevant as it’s not illegal to begin with.
Where the guy went wrong is approaching/attacking people with guns and getting into a scuffle with man with gun... not smart, and he lost his life for that dumb decision.
0% chance these guys go to prison for this. I’m not saying I necessarily agree with following a suspected burglar around the neighborhood with guns...but again that’s kind of irrelevant as it’s not illegal to begin with.
This post was edited on 5/10/20 at 8:58 pm
Posted on 5/10/20 at 8:56 pm to Bard
Yeah. I am going to illegally detain you with a firearm. Do not resist or you will be at fault. That is the rationale of many on this board.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 8:58 pm to JPLSU1981
quote:They met none of the elements for a citizens arrest in the state of Georgia. It was an illegal attempt at a detention. They are going to prison.
Naw, it isn’t illegal to make a citizens arrest or stop him for questioning.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 9:00 pm to dgnx6
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You are missing the part of stolen fishing gear and stolen hand gun from the neighborhood. Not saying he did any of those things, but thats the reason the neighbors thought he was up to no good, they have been having issues. Which is why the original 911 call was made.
The suspicious part to me is Ahmaud sprints out of the house and down the street. For essentially being caught.
Tell me was the jogger living in that neighborhood? Or was just happening to be a stranger that not from the area and his home is far way and if so where is his car or what ever transportation he used to get there.
I have witness a group of young blacks walking around and I thought they were going after me and saw them looking around and then I just went on my way. I then was walking back to the same area on my way back home, I saw a brand new Dodge with 4 young blacks in it and then saw a red convertible driven by an older black man just drove behind it on their way out. The very next day I saw a woman crying near by the place where I saw the whole situation. She told me her new Dodge was stolen. I was shocked! I did meet someone near my area who happened to be a under cover cop. I gave him the details and then left. I had witness a perfect crime. They were pro in doing it.
This post was edited on 5/10/20 at 11:05 pm
Posted on 5/10/20 at 9:01 pm to AMS
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You are clearly not up to speed if you think Arbery was the ‘attacker’ lmao.
Know how I know you haven’t watched the video?
Posted on 5/10/20 at 9:02 pm to Wolfhound45
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They met none of the elements for a citizens arrest in the state of Georgia
Incorrect
Posted on 5/10/20 at 9:03 pm to JPLSU1981
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0% chance these guys go to prison for this.
That extreme and definitive opinion is either am exhibition of ninja-like legal expertise and skills, well beyond those I possess (in which case I am thoroughly impressed) .....or..... it's a conclusion based on pure emotion.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 9:03 pm to JPLSU1981
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Naw, it isn’t illegal to make a citizens arrest or stop him for questioning.
Uhm... yes it is. Georgia's law predicates the arrest of the commission of a felony. There was not even the suspicion of a felony. And no, citizen's arrest does not give someone the ability to detain others for questioning. That's "battery".
quote:
Where the guy went wrong is approaching/attacking people with guns
He didn't approach them, they placed themselves in his path in order to create a confrontation. He attempted to avoid, they countered. At that point he was defending himself.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 9:04 pm to JPLSU1981
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Naw, it isn’t illegal to make a citizens arrest or stop him for questioning.
When you haven’t seen them commit a felony, it 100% is illegal. Thus the criminal charges.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 9:05 pm to JPLSU1981
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Incorrect
Incorrect.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 9:05 pm to Bard
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There was not even the suspicion of a felony.
The 911 call From a 3rd-party reporting a possible felony in progress by the deceased disagrees with you.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 9:05 pm to JPLSU1981
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The 911 call From a 3rd-party reporting a possible felony in progress by the deceased disagrees with you.
Uhhuh. What possible felony was that?
Posted on 5/10/20 at 9:06 pm to JPLSU1981
quote:quote:
They met none of the elements for a citizens arrest in the state of Georgia
Incorrect
Please quote each element and then explain how each was met.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 9:06 pm to the808bass
You don’t have to see them commit the felony ...read the statute, it’s short and clear.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 9:07 pm to JPLSU1981
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You don’t have to see them commit the felony ...read the statute, it’s short and clear
You actually do. Read the case law.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 9:07 pm to the808bass
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When you haven’t seen them commit a felony, it 100% is illegal. Thus the criminal charges.
We have no proof at this time that he did or did not commit a felony. There is footage that continues to come out but we are not seeing the complete footage. Also, we do not know, as of now, if the McMichael's saw the footage.
This post was edited on 5/10/20 at 9:08 pm
Posted on 5/10/20 at 9:09 pm to xGeauxLSUx
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We have no proof at this time that he did or did not commit a felony.
We have a pretty good idea. The McMichaels do not indicate they had seen him commit a felony when they tried to justify their actions. The homeowner said that Arbery only trespassed. The police said that his actions in the new construction were a misdemeanor. It would have been really dumb for the McMichaels to not tell criminal behavior that they saw.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 9:11 pm to xGeauxLSUx
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We have no proof at this time that he did or did not commit a felony. There is footage that continues to come out but we are not seeing the complete footage. Also, we do not know, as of now, if the McMichael's saw the footage.
I mean if you ignore mcmichaels statement to police following the homicide you may be right. According to mcmichaels he decided to confront arbery because it looked suspicious he was running given the recent history of break ins in the area. Surely he would have told police he knew about his knowledge of current felony if he was aware of it, considering his long history in law enforecement. Otherwise he lied to police at the time, which opens a whole new can of worms for his defense.
Given the fact that there was minutes between the alleged trespassing (which still doesnt justify a citizens arrest as its a misdemeanor) theres a near 0% chance he saw the video of it
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