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Posted on 5/11/20 at 1:16 am to
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 1:16 am to
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How?
Because they assaulted a man. They literally chased him in a vehicle and hopped out with guns drawn.
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You’ve made a lot of claims about him doing wrong. Nothing true.
It's right there on the video.
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There’s your problem.
First my problem was I don't think for myself. Now my problem is I do think for myself? Seems you just have a problem with me.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 1:25 am to

Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 1:27 am to
Ah, his shoes! The smoking gun! No, wait, the smoking gun was in the murderer's hands.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 1:28 am to
Why are you so upset about this? Tell us the real reason. Ive already said all 3 idiots can rot in hell for all I care.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 1:29 am to
What I am seeing is why did he shoot him? Wasn't there a chance to just follow him until the cop shows up? if not then he should not have gone up and make an attempt to confront him. This is like at a bar where you have gang members showing and control the place and make confrontation and then things got out of control and someone gets shot or killed. It is what I am guessing what happened with Ahmaud Arbery and those two white men. I do not know the whole truth about the situation since the video didn't show the beginning what really happened to get those two to follow him and be armed and then confronted him. I cannot say much more since there is not enough information to go on since I was not there and did not get the whole story about it.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29075 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 1:44 am to
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Why are you so upset about this? Tell us the real reason.
I am not upset about the case, at all. I will be upset if these guys get off clean, because that would be a huge blow to the rule of law. This would set a precedent for a legalized form of murder. Or, at the very least, embolden others to take the law into their own hands. All you have to do is make a call to 911 and report something and then claim "immediate knowledge" of a crime. After that, you can chase him down and provoke him until he defends himself, then shoot and claim self-defense. And make sure your buddy videos the part where he finally decides to fight back.

This is why citizen's arrest laws have been interpreted to apply to very few cases. They are not to be misconstrued as to encourage vigilante justice with armed posses.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29075 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 1:51 am to
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What I am seeing is why did he shoot him? Wasn't there a chance to just follow him until the cop shows up? if not then he should not have gone up and make an attempt to confront him.
Exactly right. Every LEO, lawyer, etc. will tell you to NEVER create a dangerous situation if you attempt a citizen's arrest. Actually, most will tell you don't attempt one at all. But if you must, absolutely do not escalate the situation by making it potentially deadly.

And here we see why. You just might commit murder by accident and go to prison.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 1:53 am to
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This would set a precedent for a legalized form of murder. Or, at the very least, embolden others to take the law into their own hands. All you have to do is make a call to 911 and report something and then claim "immediate knowledge" of a crime


Didn't this pretty much happen with Zimmerman?
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
53349 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 2:16 am to
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Two racist rednecks killed a black man for no apparent legitimate reason.



Or two concerned citizens tried to stop a burglar who attacked them, saying that unequivocally is just as asinine as your statement.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29075 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 2:26 am to
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Didn't this pretty much happen with Zimmerman?
This has been addressed numerous times in numerous ways. Personally, I think the Zimmerman case probably has influenced some vigilantes. I think Zimmerman was a cop-wannabe who escalated the situation unnecessarily. He probably should have gone to prison for murder. But evidence is obviously important, and luckily for Zimmerman nobody recorded what happened. He very well could have just asked Martin to leave or whatever, and Martin attacked him. It could very well be justified self-defense.

But it's really hard to make a stand your ground case when your ground is in the middle of the street where you are illegally parked. That evidence suggests a premeditated conflict.
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
53349 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 2:30 am to
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But it's really hard to make a stand your ground case when your ground is in the middle of the street where you are illegally parked. That evidence suggests a premeditated conflict.





Its not a stand your ground case, but you probably knew that
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29075 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 2:54 am to
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Its not a stand your ground case, but you probably knew that
Arbery would have had a good case for standing his ground / self-defense had things turned out differently. But yeah, the McMichaels don't have much of a case for self defense. They are the clear aggressors.
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
53349 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 5:44 am to
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Arbery would have had a good case for standing his ground / self-defense had things turned out differently. But yeah, the McMichaels don't have much of a case for self defense. They are the clear aggressors.



When caught in the commission of a felony all that changes podnuh
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127277 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 5:49 am to
That didn’t happen.
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
53349 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 5:57 am to
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That didn’t happen.


Glad you have all the facts, call the GBI so they dont have to spend millions on a trial
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
13193 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 6:03 am to
Why will no social justice fruit-cake address the elephant in the room?

Ahmaud was not a Patron Saint like he is being depicted.

He was a felonious criminal who had even been convicted of carrying in a loaded, stolen, firearm into a high school sporting event at 19 years of age.

He had theft convictions of which he was currently on probation and For for the life of me I don't know why he was on the street in the first place after going columbine on his community.

The media is depicting him in ancient pictures and all his mug shots have been erased from google images why?

If this man is a felon he can't touch a gun ever, the second he grabbed that mans pistol he forfeited any rights he had period.

We all know the true reasons the militants in here are running with this they just won't be honest with the board is all I'm saying.

This clown was a piece of crap going no where.

I don't know if this shooting was justified or not but that's why we have a court system and we will find out.

Just stop with the Patron Saint Ahmaud BS already.
Posted by More&Les
Member since Nov 2012
14684 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 6:03 am to
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When caught in the commission of a felony all that changes podnuh


For Clarity, you are referring to McRednecks being caught in the commission of a felony correct?

Because the only thing they "caught" Arbery doing is jogging in poliboard unapproved running gear, which may be justification for execution to some of the idiots on this board, but it wont hold up in court, at all.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127277 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 6:05 am to
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Ahmaud was not a Patron Saint like he is being depicted.

Not quite irrelevant. But in the ballpark.
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He had theft convictions

No. He had a theft conviction.
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This clown was a piece of crap going no where.

That’s not the standard for being able to shoot someone.
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
53349 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 6:42 am to
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Because the only thing they "caught" Arbery doing is jogging 


Lol muh jogging
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
156624 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 7:35 am to
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the rule of law.


The Obama and MSM messaging is effective as hell.
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