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re: The worldwide impact of Christianity- positive or negative?
Posted on 2/10/25 at 6:07 pm to Prodigal Son
Posted on 2/10/25 at 6:07 pm to Prodigal Son
Christianity is not ideology. It is truth.
Ideology
Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me" (John 14:6)
Ideology
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system of ideas and ideals, especially one which forms the basis of economic or political theory and policy.
Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me" (John 14:6)
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Posted on 2/10/25 at 6:20 pm to This GUN for HIRE
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Christianity is not ideology. It is truth.
I agree. Now that I think about it, this thread is like one of those dear Democrat threads on here.
I know we have some confident atheists on this board. I thought they may want the opportunity to claim the high ground. Guess not. Also, it’s interesting how interchangeable the words atheist and democrat are these days. Posted on 2/10/25 at 7:09 pm to DGuillory
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Plenty of intelligence in China and with Islam.
And no freedom. Especially for women and minorities.
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Do better.
That's what Christ said.
Posted on 2/10/25 at 7:30 pm to Prodigal Son
Christianity lays the foundations for human dignity, with a God who makes man in His image with inherent value and dignity. That doctrine has been abused from time to time, but that fundamental reality sets the stage for ideas that have been a benefit to mankind.
I also believe that the Christian God also makes objective moral reasoning substantive. Without God's moral law imposed and enforced, morality would ultimately be arbitrary and enforced by the might of those with the power to enforce their own opinions.
I also believe that the Christian God also makes objective moral reasoning substantive. Without God's moral law imposed and enforced, morality would ultimately be arbitrary and enforced by the might of those with the power to enforce their own opinions.
Posted on 2/10/25 at 7:39 pm to Prodigal Son
What is really impressive in that chart to me is the percentage of awards to Jews, especially when they compromise a tiny percentage of the population.
Posted on 2/10/25 at 7:44 pm to Prodigal Son
[quote]I’m more interested in pushback to the idea that Christianity is the superior ideology when all ideologies are followed perfectly to their respective conclusions[/quote]
Are you doing research for something? Cause this is how you do research.
One should separate the religious from the non. Otherwise it becomes the perfection of my faith vs yours. Marxism for another. But to attempt a answer I would say its all in belief. If one believes Christianity is built on slight of hand why would one ever think it could have a net positive. If one is of faith how does one discount just one person seeing the greatest truth and achieving eternal life.
Are you doing research for something? Cause this is how you do research.
One should separate the religious from the non. Otherwise it becomes the perfection of my faith vs yours. Marxism for another. But to attempt a answer I would say its all in belief. If one believes Christianity is built on slight of hand why would one ever think it could have a net positive. If one is of faith how does one discount just one person seeing the greatest truth and achieving eternal life.
Posted on 2/10/25 at 7:57 pm to goatmilker
Democracy doesn’t work without Christianity.
This post was edited on 2/10/25 at 7:58 pm
Posted on 2/10/25 at 8:14 pm to DGuillory
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Plenty of intelligence in China and with Islam.
Do better.
Hey dumbass, why do that have to steal so much of our information?
Posted on 2/10/25 at 8:19 pm to Prodigal Son
Just for the contribution to education alone. The Catholic Church was instrumental in establishing universities throughout Europe during the Middle Ages. University of Bologna in 1088, University of Paris (Sarbonne) University of Naples, University of Salamanca in Spain in 1224 just to name a few. Most are still in operation. So many influential thinkers were educated and trained by the Church
Posted on 2/10/25 at 8:24 pm to Prodigal Son
I just finished a book titled, “At the End of the Santa Fe Trail.” It’s about Sister Blandina, an Italian -American Nun whom was sent from Cincinnati to Colorado, then New Mexico.
It’s a great account of how lawless the west was, and how the Church provided stability by building schools, hospitals, providing jail ministries and advocating for the poor.
It’s a great account of how lawless the west was, and how the Church provided stability by building schools, hospitals, providing jail ministries and advocating for the poor.
Posted on 2/10/25 at 8:27 pm to Squirrelmeister
Ah yes, Islam. Such a loving, peaceful religion. Anyone who doesn’t believe as they do are infidels and should be eliminated from the earth. Compared to Christianity that calls on us to die to ourselves and love others as Christ loved us. Yes, what a comparison you have there.
Posted on 2/10/25 at 8:31 pm to yakster
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Compared to Christianity that calls on us to die to ourselves and love others as Christ loved us.
I'm more Old Testament at this point.
Posted on 2/10/25 at 8:32 pm to ChatGPT of LA
Especially a lot of people who historically considered themselves Christian fighting with other Christians. see Thirty Years War
Posted on 2/10/25 at 8:38 pm to goatmilker
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Are you doing research for something? Cause this is how you do research.
If by research, you mean trying to find the truth, and comparing notes with people who have differing views and offer conflicting truth claims- then, yes.
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One should separate the religious from the non
I agree. But the religious should also be evaluated on the accuracy of their respective truth claims. Christians, Jews, Muslims, hindus, etc should not be grouped together. Though I do think it’s sufficient to group all factions of each religion (or lack thereof) together.
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But to attempt a answer I would say its all in belief
100%. I would also say that atheism is a belief- not the lack thereof.
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If one believes Christianity is built on slight of hand why would one ever think it could have a net positive.
Because these beliefs can and should be evaluated in their ability to describe reality. More importantly, one must be honest with him/her self when identifying the motivations for the beliefs that we hold in the absence of absolute knowledge.
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If one is of faith how does one discount just one person seeing the greatest truth and achieving eternal life.
This is the primary goal of Christianity.
Posted on 2/10/25 at 8:39 pm to Prodigal Son
Positive. Obviously.
Posted on 2/10/25 at 8:45 pm to FooManChoo
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I also believe that the Christian God also makes objective moral reasoning substantive. Without God's moral law imposed and enforced, morality would ultimately be arbitrary and enforced by the might of those with the power to enforce their own opinions.
Indeed. The past four years have been a mere teaser for what the Godless would do if unopposed.
Posted on 2/10/25 at 8:46 pm to Prodigal Son
Positive
Posted on 2/10/25 at 8:47 pm to Prodigal Son
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I thought they may want the opportunity to claim the high ground
Posted on 2/10/25 at 8:48 pm to SallysHuman
quote:As I type this, there is state-sanctioned slavery in China and some Islamic nations. The teaching of Buddha are the closest thing to the philosophy of Christ. Mohammed?
Intelligence does not equal a better off world... nm, I think you're probably making the same point.
Posted on 2/10/25 at 8:52 pm to Prodigal Son
quote:quote:From an application standpoint, that’s impressive in its own right.
It’s tough to say but although it has facilitated a lot of evil and a lot of good, I’d say the net impact is positive.
What set christianity apart from the other ancient religions was two things:
1. Rejection of other religions
2. Evangelism
Other ancient religions were all compatible. One could worship Set in Alexandria, Yahweh in Jerusalem, Baal in Tyre, Zeus in Greece, and all the ancients knew it was all the same storm deity.
During the late Persian and the Hellenistic phase of Judaism, they began to exclusively worship Yahweh to the exclusion of all the others, and eventually began to deny the existence of all the other deities their ancestors had worshipped for a thousand years. It was at that point that Judaism became incompatible with the other religions. Christianity inherited that rejection of other religions.
So evangelism and rejection of other religions was able unite a fair amount of peoples that would usher in economic advancement and technological progress. Christianity was able to foster this development despite it being deeply flawed morally and despite being factually incorrect about most of its alleged historical events and about the cosmos.
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What can you put in its place, that will meet or exceed the ‘positive’ results that Christianity has provided?
I don’t know, maybe Islam?
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What evidence can you provide to support this claim?
Not much, other than that as Islam was an offshoot of a Christian sect, it had the same incompatibility with pagan religions and the same requirement to evangelize and spread their myths, so I am again speculating but I think Islam could have had the same affect if it had been made the official religion of Rome.
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Islam is rife with contradictions
It is based on a sect of Torah-observant non-Greek (non-Pauline) Christianity itself an offshoot of a Jewish cult so I can understand why it would be.
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atheists like you don’t even bother to disprove it.
If an LSU forum was constantly discussing the “Truth” of Mohammed being the final prophet of Allah, and I was confident they wouldn’t find me out and cut my head off, I might try to engage them as well.
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