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Posted on 2/8/26 at 10:35 am to
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
6324 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 10:35 am to
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My opine: they do not vote in our elections therefore they ain’t Americans.


If they pay FICA and can be drafted into the US Military, then they are Americans.
Posted by wookalar1013
up ta camp
Member since Jun 2017
2119 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 10:37 am to
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we in a time where the citizenship of Puerto Ricans is being questioned

No we aren’t.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
49217 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 10:41 am to
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They would vote for independence if not for the handouts.


There is a constant debate if PR should become a state. They voted not to become one. I think we should turn the tables on them. They literally contribute nothing to us, so lets just cut them free. Grant them independence by doing so we end the the game show prizes.
Posted by TheBeezer
Texas
Member since Apr 2013
2073 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 10:42 am to
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Retard logic on display


You actually got that right, but not in the way you intended.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
17323 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 10:43 am to
Puerto Ricans have a very similar affinity for Puerto Rican culture and identity to Texans. It’s not anti American, just pro local. Coonasses are similar.
Posted by MetArl15
Washington, DC
Member since Apr 2007
13019 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 10:45 am to
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They voted not to become one.
58.6% of the population voted in favor of statehood in the latest referendum in 2024.

LINK
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
31051 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 10:48 am to
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A distinction without a difference.

Native Americans also have statutory citizenship, along with naturalized people and their progeny.



Puerto Rico has their own Olympic team. Not part of the USA team.

And Puerto Ricans can't vote in our general elections, nor have representation in Congress.

They don't pay US income tax.

Limited benefits.

It's not a distinction without difference. They are a territory, not a state. You can't see a difference?
This post was edited on 2/8/26 at 10:57 am
Posted by Kikicaca
1 Mile from the Atchafalaya
Member since Nov 2016
2144 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 10:56 am to
Not watching. Blowbunny will leave stains and infect my TV set.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
470964 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 10:58 am to
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Puerto Rico has their own Olympic team. Not part of the USA team.

And?

This isn't an outlier thing. The UK has what, four (England, Wales, Scotland, Northern Ireland) nations with teams in the World Cup? Is it 5 now?

Has nothing to do with citizenship either.

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It's not a distinction without difference. They are a territory, not a state. You can't see a difference?

The fact that their citizenship is statutory and not "constitutional" is a distinction without a difference.

You're now pivoting to shite that has nothing to do with what I specifically replied to. Stay on topic.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
31051 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 11:09 am to
They don't have all the same rights as we do as citizens living in the states.

Yeah, they are considered American citizens. Is that all you're arguing? What name you can use to call them?

It's fine to say Puerto Ricans are US citizens... They are of course.. but they don't have the same citizenship benefits as someone from Tallahassee.

Not sure if that's what you trying to say or how you just want it to be... Puerto Ricans are US citizens with limited rights.
This post was edited on 2/8/26 at 11:17 am
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
6324 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 11:09 am to
They're Americans.

Jone-Shafroth Act of 1916

Puerto Ricans fought against the British under the command of Spain aiding the Americans for Independence.

Yes, they were annexed by the US to control the waters and facilitate trade. (As the US should do with Greenland BTW.)

Hopping around here, but if we're talking about people that don't consider themselves Americans - you should have a talk with some Hawaiians.

More Puerto Ricans are proud Americans than you realize and it's an insult to their sacrifices and contributions to be so dismissive of them.
Posted by Dee_oh_Dee
Member since Aug 2024
118 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 11:11 am to
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Puerto Ricans have a very similar affinity for Puerto Rican culture and identity to Texans. It’s not anti American, just pro local. Coonasses are similar.


big ol nope.


I haven't met any stateside. The ones I've met there will state the US is just the current occupier. How many hundred years were they occupied before the US?
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
38344 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 11:14 am to
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More Puerto Ricans are proud Americans than you realize and it's an insult to their sacrifices and contributions to be so dismissive of them.


You're asking people who cannot let this guy lip sync a few songs for 15 minutes and forget it ever happened but instead they think they are being groomed all while posting how angry the left is over the flavor of the day. This is nothing more than taking the biggest artist in the world and putting him on one of the biggest stages in the world. It caters to the largest growing demographic of the 18-35 demographic. Even an LSU student in Marketing 1001 can piece this together
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
31051 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 11:18 am to
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They're Americans.


I know they are Americans. But they have limited citizenship benefits compared to citizens living in the states.

That's all I'm saying. I also doubt very seriously they actually label themselves Americans over Puerto Ricans in their lives. That sort of sets the mentality of the territory.

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Most Puerto Ricans primarily identify as Puerto Rican (or Boricua) rather than American, emphasizing a distinct culture, language, and national identity. While they are U.S. citizens by birth since 1917, many view this as a legal, political status rather than their primary nationality, often differentiating themselves from continental Americans.


And there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.
This post was edited on 2/8/26 at 12:33 pm
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
17323 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 11:20 am to
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The ones I've met there will state the US is just the current occupier

I’ve literally never heard a single Puerto Rican say this and I lived in Condado for 6 months.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
31051 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 11:21 am to
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This is nothing more than taking the biggest artist in the world and putting him on one of the biggest stages in the world. It caters to the largest growing demographic of the 18-35 demographic. Even an LSU student in Marketing 1001 can piece this together


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Key Demographic Insights:
Age: While 18-34 year olds show the highest interest (75%), the game maintains high viewership across all age groups, including over 60% of adults 65+.
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
6324 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 11:26 am to
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I know they are Americans. But they have limited citizenship benefits compared to citizens living in the states.


Indeed, and it's a tradeoff of choosing to live in Puerto Rico. That's why many choose to move stateside (usually after joining the military.) The tax incentives are more or less invisible to the average PR citizen. Yeah, it's cheaper to live there, but it's not like they're fleecing the US government. As you say, they do not qualify for all of the same benefits, but they do contribute to Social Security and Medicare. (The big ones.)
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
31051 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 11:27 am to
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eah, it's cheaper to live there, but it's not like they're fleecing the US government. As you say, they do not qualify for all of the same benefits, but they do contribute to Social Security and Medicare. (The big ones.)


Why are you trying to argue with me over something I'm not trying to argue about?

I didn't say they were fleecing the US govt. Don't care about that. We have enough other people fleecing our govt to worry about right now... I'm just saying that there is a difference between their citizenship and ours. Seems some on here want to say there is absolutely no difference between a Puerto Rico citizen and a citizen from the states, but there is.

I'm not trying to remove their US citizen status..

This post was edited on 2/8/26 at 11:31 am
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
6324 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 11:30 am to
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I'm just saying that there is a difference between their citizenship and ours. No big deal.


Then why bring it up? If it's not a big deal?
Posted by TulsaSooner78
Member since Aug 2025
1608 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 11:31 am to
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My opine: they do not vote in our elections therefore they ain’t Americans.


But they do.

Anyone born in Puerto Rico is automatically a US citizen.

70% of them live in one of the 50 states or DC. While residing there, they can vote for Federal offices.
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