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Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 11:09 am to
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So, unless you are a government leech there is very little to no day to day difference than any other time.


Day-to-day, this is true. Long term, most of your investments will be affected )provided you have any). Economy will begin to feel it. Planned investments will be delayed. The ignorance is laughable.
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124694 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 11:10 am to
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My life hasn't changed one bit.


Neither has mine
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
28601 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 11:11 am to
Reduce the Federal Government by 95% and return everything to the States please.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 11:13 am to
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People on Government programs are takers not producers. I own businesses in the private sector. This shutdown will have ZERO impact on my production or bottom line. In fact I will take this a step further unless you are a business owner in the DC area (including VA and MD) as long as you are not a government leech or handcuffed to government programs your life will change very little to none. Why anyone would rely on government in all facets of their life is beyond me. It is inefficient and unproductive.


You are ignorant of the way MANY businesses operate. Energy, food, healthcare, financials...… all need govt. approval for certain operations.

Expansions, modifications, repairs, mergers..... all need Govt. approval. Without those approvals, things will be LESS efficient, less profitable. Keep up with your bullshite. You will learn one day.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14941 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 11:13 am to
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My life hasn't changed one bit.
That's for sure the standard that should be used for all gov't shutdowns.
Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
11947 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 11:13 am to
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Why do people still believe that shutdowns don't affect anything?



Why do people believe that pieces of the government shutting down (hopefully completely) is a bad thing? Why do people believe that big government, or more government, is a good thing?
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 11:16 am to
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Jake_LaMotta


This guy is a fricking idiot. It's being spoon fed to him, but his head remains firmly planted in his arse.

Industries populated by idiots according to this genius: Oil and Gas, Nuclear, Financial, Medical, Power Generation/Distribution...…. the list goes on.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
28601 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 11:16 am to
Stop melting
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 11:17 am to
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Seems like you are missing the point of your own thread.

No, you're pretty much missing it.

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It is only those who are Government Employees/Contractors and people who are on various government programs that are noticing anything.

That is actually false.
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This shutdown is showing us what a laughingstock the government actually is. Sure, there are some essential parts of government but there is also a lot of waste and bloat that Americans can go without.

You don't even realize that only 25% of the government is shut down, and even at that, they're having to bring some of those people back to work for deferred pay to carry on the business of government.
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Yes in industries that solely rely on the government teet.

You don't have to "solely rely on the government" to be affected. Your exaggerations diminish any point you're trying to make.
Posted by BigAppleBucky
New York
Member since Jan 2014
1807 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 11:19 am to
I have read the following estimate:
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Mr. Hassett (chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers) said on Tuesday that the administration now calculates that the shutdown reduces quarterly economic growth by 0.13 percentage points for every week that it lasts — the cumulative effect of lost work from contractors and furloughed federal employees who are not getting paid and who are investing and spending less as a result. That means that the economy has already lost nearly half a percentage point of growth from the four-week shutdown.


The rubber is really going to hit the road when the FAA starts forcing airlines to cancel flights due to lack of TSA agents at airports and air traffic controllers.
This post was edited on 1/17/19 at 11:21 am
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
36512 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 11:19 am to
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None of those things should depend on the government to happen in the first place


If you want to drill for oil offshore, you do need federal approval since they are the ones that lease out the blocs
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 11:19 am to
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Stop melting


paid vacation, no melt here.

Just trying to educate.
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
18895 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 11:19 am to
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Without those approvals, things will be LESS efficient, less profitable


Now who's full of it?

Regulations are needed, every adult knows that. But I'm sure we would all love to hear how govt approval improves efficiency and profitability
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 11:20 am to
Whose ox is being gored?

Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
88160 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 11:21 am to
All of this can go away for a measly $5.7 billion. Then you can move on to skyscreaming about the next big thing.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 11:25 am to
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If you want to drill for oil offshore, you do need federal approval since they are the ones that lease out the blocs


We lease the blocks (estimate their worth, hold the auction)
Collect the royalties (contributes 2nd most to the federal treasury after IRS)
Ensure safe operations (ESH and design)
ensure proper decommissioning (Env Protection)

All on FEDERAL LAND. We aren't going anywhere.


There will be no lay-offs after the shutdown is over.

If their were layoffs, those people would be the lowest of the low performers and would head on over to the unemployment office. the performers have no worries, IMHO.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
36512 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 11:26 am to
Jake, it seems the beatings that Sugar Ray Robinson gave you are staring to have an effect on your vision of the real world.
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 11:29 am to
It’s hilarious that people think the federal government shouldn’t issue permits for federal waters/land? Then who the frick should? Lol
This post was edited on 1/17/19 at 11:30 am
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 11:31 am to
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Now who's full of it? Regulations are needed, every adult knows that. But I'm sure we would all love to hear how govt approval improves efficiency and profitability


Many approvals are processed efficiently by the Govt. I do it all the time. Industries plan their actions based on this. This shut-down will delay those approvals, PERIOD.

Therefore having me back in my office would be more efficient for my customers and allow them to proceed as planned with their business plans. Now, they will have to wait until I get back in my office. It's really pretty simple. I wouldn't have thought I would have to explain how expediting permit approvals is efficient for industry.
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 11:33 am to
Sid, it’s useless. The shutdown doesn’t affect anything. We don’t need government for anything including the management of federal land. That’s what people think. You aren’t gonna change their minds
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