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Posted on 5/8/23 at 5:59 pm to
Posted by TheDudeAbides89
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 5/8/23 at 5:59 pm to
Trump worshippers have the mindset that it’s fine trump pushed out a phony and dangerous product under false pretenses and it’s harmed countless people because “well he wasn’t forcing anyone”. Yeah but he knew damn well the corporations would do the bidding of pharma to try and mandate it everyone else saw that coming six miles away but not Donald ? You’re not selling me that garbage ! And he still stands by it. He’s either delusional or he’s a traitor take your pick
This post was edited on 5/8/23 at 6:00 pm
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
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Posted on 5/8/23 at 6:02 pm to
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Trump worshippers have the mindset that it’s fine trump pushed out a phony and dangerous product under false pretenses and it’s harmed countless people because “well he wasn’t forcing anyone”.


Or perhaps us Trump worshippers didn’t get the vax and played the game just like trump did.

You can’t stand that you took the vax and have to blame it on someone
Posted by TheDudeAbides89
Member since May 2023
107 posts
Posted on 5/8/23 at 6:04 pm to
I don’t care somebody should have and people were saying this should not be done this way. It shouldn’t be rushed out. We don’t need it. It’ll be dangerous. It’ll be mandated.

Trump either was a fellow traveler or he was played for a fool but I don’t see any reason to want him back. If he stands up against what we all knew was a lie then he’s still the president today
This post was edited on 5/8/23 at 6:05 pm
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 5/8/23 at 6:06 pm to
Sure vaxling
Posted by TheDudeAbides89
Member since May 2023
107 posts
Posted on 5/8/23 at 6:06 pm to
As alexsandr solsinytsan…no idea the spelling… said in the Soviet Union we must live not by lies. That’s what the transgender movement is about getting you to live by lies
This post was edited on 5/8/23 at 6:07 pm
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
28436 posts
Posted on 5/8/23 at 6:47 pm to
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It wasn't until the Biden administration that they realized Fauci was lying to them.


Just want to point out that the O’Reilly interview where Trump bragged about the vaccine was late December of 2021.

About a full 11 months after Biden was inaugurated.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35680 posts
Posted on 5/8/23 at 6:48 pm to
Trump bragged about the *swiftness* in which the vaccine came online. I’d brag about it too. Seeing as how the country was stuck in place until that happened, it was pretty important to get it done sooner than later.
This post was edited on 5/8/23 at 6:50 pm
Posted by BjornIronside
Member since May 2023
116 posts
Posted on 5/8/23 at 6:55 pm to
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Trump bragged about the *swiftness* in which the vaccine came


They dont realize they would atill be locked in their house if he didnt get it that fast

Navarro says they lied to him, of course, about it being a real vax
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 5/8/23 at 6:59 pm to
No telling how much longer a huge proportion of Americans would’ve stayed in their homes, frightened (even if needlessly so), with no end in sight at that time. All the while what would’ve happened to our economy? Possibly a fatal blow.
This post was edited on 5/8/23 at 7:01 pm
Posted by BigTigerJoe
Member since Aug 2022
12342 posts
Posted on 5/8/23 at 7:28 pm to
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Trump and the vaccine

Trump always wanted Americans to have a choice on whether to take a vaccine. If he had been reelected, no one gives up their jobs and livelihood by saying no to the vaccine.

He described his therapeutic treatment as a cure. He wanted everyone to have the opportunity and access to his therapeutic protocol.

The US economy was hemorghing during Covid19 lockdowns. Trump had to allow vaccines for the portion of the population living in total manufactured fear.

In order to save the country, the percentage wanting a quick cure had to be placated with a fast tracked vaccine.

Those people not wanting the vaccine would have been protected from the Covidians had Trump been reelected. Again, he stressed on a number of occasions he wanted being vaccinated a choice by each American.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35680 posts
Posted on 5/8/23 at 7:30 pm to
Spot on assessment. Well done, sir.
Posted by Roughneck2020
San Antonio
Member since Nov 2020
236 posts
Posted on 5/8/23 at 8:18 pm to
Did Trump even talk to Bret Weinstein, Pierre Kory, and Paul Marik? Covid and the vaccine needs to be his albatross. Fair or not, it was used to take him down and he didn’t rise to the occasion. He doesn’t have the leadership qualities or the mental capacity to handle a crisis of that magnitude. I don’t know if DeSantis does, but I want my President to be a leader, not a narcissistic jackass.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 5/8/23 at 8:28 pm to
The Presidency isn’t exactly a position that you want to have to be doing tryouts as you go, until you’re satisfied enough. All this takes is an assessment as to whether you think there’s any other person in existence who (1) is a realistic prospect for the Presidency, and (2) would certainly have done a measurably better job at the overall handling of covid, another person who absolutely convinces you that he or she would have been worth the drastic act of replacing the President right then and there.

If the above described person doesn’t really exist in your mind, then that means Trump did the best possible job, and you don’t replace people who did the best possible job for.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22402 posts
Posted on 5/8/23 at 8:36 pm to
quote:

Trump had to allow vaccines for the portion of the population living in total manufactured fear.

In order to save the country, the percentage wanting a quick cure had to be placated with a fast tracked vaccine.

Those people not wanting the vaccine would have been protected from the Covidians had Trump been reelected. Again, he stressed on a number of occasions he wanted being vaccinated a choice by each American.


I don't hang the vaccines on Trump, other than the immunity and dollars part. Where Trump is culpable w/r/t Covid is in his failure to keep his CDC/NIH from gaslighting the frick out of the country about a virus that was less lethal than a shitty flu for all but the very old/very frail and already very unwell.

We should have never needed a vaccine to "save us" or to get the economy up off the canvas.
Posted by TheDudeAbides89
Member since May 2023
107 posts
Posted on 5/8/23 at 8:40 pm to
Operation warp speed to hell was when I officially decided trump was a con man and he played everyone for a fool
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35680 posts
Posted on 5/8/23 at 8:42 pm to
What were the terms of his vaccine con? In other words, what was the general framework of it and most importantly, what was the reward he planned on?
Posted by TheDudeAbides89
Member since May 2023
107 posts
Posted on 5/8/23 at 8:43 pm to
That’s not obvious to you by now? He did the bidding of big pharma no different than any politician would do. The reward is adulation from neocons like mark levin
This post was edited on 5/8/23 at 8:45 pm
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35680 posts
Posted on 5/8/23 at 8:47 pm to
If I’m understanding you correctly, you are saying that from the first thoughts by highest levels of our government that Trump immediately put into effect a con job regarding the vaccine. That’s more or less correct? So help me out with the final leg of the job, the precise reward/loot going to Trump.
Posted by TheDudeAbides89
Member since May 2023
107 posts
Posted on 5/8/23 at 8:47 pm to
Trump can be convinced to do anything that he perceives will be the popular thing to do. He’s incapable of acting other than out of his own self interest or out of revenge

He’s not gonna be allowed to be president again so it’s a moot point but nobody should want him to be either. he’s no friend of liberty or the constitution
This post was edited on 5/8/23 at 8:49 pm
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