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Posted on 7/19/19 at 9:23 am to
Posted by sacrathetic
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 9:23 am to
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Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 9:24 am to
Lowering rates before never got inflation to 2%.

So what’s going to change this time? What happens when we lower 50bps and inflation still doesn’t hit 2%? Keep lowering??
Posted by wutangfinancial
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 9:24 am to
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Plus we lower the rates while doing quanitative tightening??? What kind of monetary policy is that?


You should be asking yourself what retard came up with QE in the first place. They are going to inflate us to the moon with how dovish they are being. They are also going to monetize what's left on their balance sheet. QE has been a complete failure, and their actions are evidence of this. They cannot raise rates, but have to CUT them prior to a recession to maintain asset prices at these levels. It's pathetic central banking.

We are unloading the ammuntion before the first shot should be fired.
Posted by BamaAtl
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 9:29 am to
It's almost as if Trump will personally make money if they lower the Fed Rate...
Posted by Jack Prenderville
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 9:30 am to
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It's almost as if Trump will personally make money if they lower the Fed Rate...


Anyone in Real Estate would. Literally everyone.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 9:30 am to
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he’d probably agree deep down with keeping the rate higher if he wasn’t Prez.

Doubt it.

In the 2016 run-up, he continually noted "restructuring" debt, and economic growth.

Personally, I'd love to return to days of high coupon yield fixed income securities, but in the current environment a >2% Fed Rate makes no sense.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 9:37 am to
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Lowering rates before never got inflation to 2%.
Wait.
What effect do you think lowering rates would have?
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 9:41 am to
To incentive money to be borrowed?

Except technically, most of QE never made it into circulation. Companies took advantage of it, but the consumer did not.
Posted by wutangfinancial
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 9:41 am to
He's also using the Federal Reserve's definition of inflation. Which is what sheep use to guage inflation. They use their heuristics model which tells people that a 10" box television from the 80's is MORE valuable than a 60" 4K UHD LG
Posted by sacrathetic
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 9:45 am to
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Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 9:48 am to
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To incentive money to be borrowed?

Except technically, most of QE
You know downward Fed Rate adjustment and QE are different, right?
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 9:48 am to
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It's almost as if Trump will personally make money if they lower the Fed Rate...





It's almost as if lots of people will make money with a lower interest rate.
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4907 posts
Posted on 7/19/19 at 9:51 am to
Yes I do, but you still haven’t answered my point. If neither downward rate adjustment or QE got inflation above their target before. What makes them think it’ll do it this time?

Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 9:53 am to
To clarify in case you’re missing my point, I’m against lower rates.

So if you’re telling me the Fed is misinterpreting inflation and it’s actually higher than what’s stated, I’d hope you are against lowering rates as well.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 10:05 am to
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f neither downward rate adjustment or QE got inflation above their target before.
False statement.
Are you limiting that POV to post-2008? If so, why?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 10:08 am to
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I’m against lower rates
That was clear.

To clarify in case you’re missing my point, I am for economic growth.
Posted by 14&Counting
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 10:11 am to
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I agree with funny stuff but TRUMP is just doing this for strategic reasons, he’d probably agree deep down with keeping the rate higher if he wasn’t Prez.



Every single President in history has bitched about rates being too high
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11953 posts
Posted on 7/19/19 at 10:11 am to
I was the biggest Powell fan boi there was during Q4 2018. I thought we had a chariman who was finally going to put massive pressure on Congress to fix our spending addiction. But of course, he is as spineless as the previous.

Of course I do not support a rate cut, it's almost numbing to think about. We are trapped in a low rate world permanently and any sort of QE program moving forward is just debt monetization. Their balance sheet will never shrink and they are completely incompentent failures. These people are just as clueless as their Congressional counterparts, but they think they can manipulate and control the economy how they please because they got an ivy league PHD. Worthless academics are destroying our economy.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 10:42 am to
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We are trapped in a low rate world
Yes we are.
And if we maintain disproportionately elevated rates in a low rate world, it will stifle economic growth.

I'd love 5% growth and a 5% FedRate.
We aren't there.
Posted by Man4others
Member since Aug 2017
2478 posts
Posted on 7/19/19 at 10:46 am to
Interest rates are too high and hurting lower income families disproportionately. Dems should be backing this. The Fed raise in December was purely out of spite
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