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Posted on 8/19/25 at 2:40 pm to BuckI
quote:When did he do this?
He's off to a bad start by cutting the poor off from food, medical care, and harassing the homeless
Posted on 8/19/25 at 2:46 pm to Jake88
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When did he do this?
BB Bill
Trump is a guide to the gospels ...just do the opposite
Except Pay Ceasar unto his...Trump was never big on Taxes
Posted on 8/19/25 at 2:47 pm to bigjoe1
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He is hoping it helps him "get to heaven."
Seems he missed the entire Christian message.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 2:48 pm to Tmcgin
quote:So the poor will no longer be able to eat or get medical care? The homeless wont get to camp on the streets surrounded by refuse?
BB Bill
Posted on 8/19/25 at 2:52 pm to Jake88
quote:The BBB did the first 2, and the DC take over the last one.
When did he do this?
Posted on 8/19/25 at 2:52 pm to theballguy
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You gotta have both is all I'm saying.
You have to have faith first though. That’s the danger of focusing on works so heavily. You can easily end up slipping into focusing on works entirely and never getting to step one which is faith. Good works are a natural result of faith but “good work” (which aren’t really good, it’s all filthy rags) is not a substitute for faith.
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The Devil believes yet he is faithless.
Exactly. Satan doesn’t trust God and sees himself as deserving to be God. His head knowledge means nothing for salvation. He is entirely self directed.
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Faith takes action else it's just belief.
If by action you mean good works, yes good works do come from a person who is genuinely saved. To reiterate the earlier point, when we go out of order and put actions and works before faith, we miss Christ entirely. We must first have faith and then good works come naturally from that. This goes right to the heart of Matthew 7 I believe it is where Jesus teaches that many of those who did good works ended up trusting in those works instead of him for salvation and they’ll be told to depart from him. I agree that if you’re a professing Christian and there is absolutely no good fruit from your life, you should evaluate if your trust is genuinely in God or if it’s simply a cultural thing you do. I just fear for so many Christians that they get so hyper focused on doing good works that they completely miss Jesus in the process.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 2:55 pm to bigjoe1
I hope he gets to heaven. We may disagree in politics, but he is still my brother and pray for his success.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 2:55 pm to oklahogjr
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would be easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for trump to get to heaven...
that rich coming from oklahogjr
Posted on 8/19/25 at 2:55 pm to BuckI
quote:So the poor will no longer be able to eat or get medical care? The homeless wont get to camp on the streets surrounded by refuse?
The BBB did the first 2, and the DC take over the last one
Posted on 8/19/25 at 2:56 pm to JiminyCricket
Works are evidence of faith. Its the faith that saves you.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 3:04 pm to tiger789
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that rich coming from oklahogjr
That's from Jesus homeboy
Posted on 8/19/25 at 3:11 pm to Jake88
quote:How we treat those beneath us is how we treat Jesus Christ.
So the poor will no longer be able to eat or get medical care? The homeless wont get to camp on the streets surrounded by refuse?
Posted on 8/19/25 at 3:11 pm to bigjoe1
Posted on 8/19/25 at 3:16 pm to BuckI
quote:So we enable him, allow him to grow accustomed to a substance existence and let him live in dung piles in DC?
How we treat those beneath us is how we treat Jesus Christ.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 3:54 pm to Jake88
quote:Inside, you know the answer to this.
So we enable him, allow him to grow accustomed to a substance existence and let him live in dung piles in DC?
Posted on 8/19/25 at 3:57 pm to BuckI
quote:No, it's not enabling a lifetime of poor choices. You know that.
nside, you know the answer to this
This post was edited on 8/19/25 at 4:00 pm
Posted on 8/19/25 at 4:15 pm to Jake88
Was Jesus enabling when he fed the poor and for us to give our goods to them? How about when he healed the lame? 
Posted on 8/19/25 at 6:24 pm to BuckI
quote:Charity is fine when it's voluntary. Did Jesus hand out thousands of dollars monthly he had taken from the productive?
Was Jesus enabling when he fed the poor and for us to give our goods to them? How about when he healed the lame
Still, you haven't answered my earlier questions. Will the poor no longer be able to eat? Will they no longer be able to get healthcare? Will the homeless no longer be able to live on the sidewalks amongst filth?
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