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Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:40 pm to
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:40 pm to
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at I Told You. by Champagne
The US FedGov CDC has NOT been doing it's job of preparing to protect us from disease. Instead, it was spending its time and money on Politically Correct projects that have NOTHING to do with research on and prevention of disease-outbreaks in the USA.


Further evidence all federal government bureaucracies are infected witj the Prog/Dim lunacy virus......it’s bad y’all!
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:41 pm to
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100 infected in China will have a higher mortality rate than 100 infected in the US.



True. I didn't factor in where they had the flu. My bad.
Posted by Hill Tiger
Member since Aug 2009
897 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:41 pm to
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Well, 2.1% of the people that get the Coronoavirus die. .1% of the people that get the flu die. BUT... a whole lot more people get the flue than get the Coronavirus. So the flu does kill more people. But Cornoavirus is more deadly.


But those numbers are from shite countries. Let’s see the % death rate for the US. Bet it is MUCH lower.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:42 pm to
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I believe it may be the case that more people in Asia will contract the virus to begin with.


Because they are nasty, gross people that eat nasty gross food that starts all this crap in the first place?
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:42 pm to
The Government response and people's expectations of the government's response to this is interesting to observe.

Is it the Federal Government's job to provide for the general welfare of the people or not?

I believe it is. So we expect the Federal government to combat pandemics but we don't expect the Federal government to provide every other facet of medical care for the people.

It's interesting.
Posted by Sid E Walker
BackdoorU ©
Member since Nov 2013
25507 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:44 pm to
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Is it the Federal Government's job to provide for the general welfare of the people or not?

The Dems have thought this for decades.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95153 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:44 pm to
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So personal experience has molded my personal opinion on the cure.


A vaccine is not a cure of any sort. A vaccine is a preventative measure and, in some limited cases, a mitigation factor. It is not a cure or even a form of treatment.

And you never died of the flu, correct? And, in all likelihood, even if you come down with COVID19, there is very little chance you will die or even be seriously ill (although that chance isn't 0% - it isn't 0% with the flu, acute bronchitis, pneumonia, etc., either).

This post was edited on 2/27/20 at 8:45 pm
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
48237 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:46 pm to
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Instead, it was spending its time and money on Politically Correct projects that have NOTHING to do with research on and prevention of disease-outbreaks in the USA.


The anti-American, race-baiting community agitator sometimes known as Barack Hussein Obama WEAPONIZED all of these damn federal agencies. Trump has recently taken strong steps to accelerate the purge of the filth that Hussain injected into them.

Here's hoping he can clean up the toxic bureaucracy across the board.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:46 pm to
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The Dems have thought this for decades.


The Constitution mandates it. The only question is whether you believe the mandate to provide for the general welfare of the people extends to medical care or not.

Again, we expect the CDC to combat the corona virus, but we don't expect the government to provide for the rest of our care. It seems to be a contradiction. Is being cured of the corona virus a medical care issue or not?
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:47 pm to
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Is it the Federal Government's job to provide for the general welfare of the people or not?



From a macro or micro perspective?
Posted by Sid E Walker
BackdoorU ©
Member since Nov 2013
25507 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:47 pm to
Sorry to use ‘cure’ when ‘preventive measure’ may have been more correct.
Posted by PhDoogan
Member since Sep 2018
14977 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:51 pm to
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Is it the Federal Government's job to provide for the general welfare of the people or not?


The bolded is the operative term. And the answer is yes to this question.

quote:

So we expect the Federal government to combat pandemics but we don't expect the Federal government to provide every other facet of medical care for the people.


Our government is not, and was not designed to benefit and cater to certain individuals to the exclusion of others. Now, we know this is an oversimplification given our expansion of federal assistance programs in the last century. But I agree, it is interesting.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127353 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:53 pm to
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If 100 people get Covid19, how many of the, on average, will die?


No one knows the answer to this. We certainly don’t know the answer for the US. We don’t even know for China.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95153 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:55 pm to
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The Constitution mandates it.


No it doesn't. It explains the purpose for it, broadly, in the preamble. Based on the framer's experience with central government and a majority (at ratification) population's general distrust of it, it is better to read such broad sweeping statements in the preamble as pathfinding, but not empowering.

I mean, read it - it doesn't ramble on like the Declaration does at times (although much of the DOI is brilliant and classic Jefferson). It's tight and concise, was not heavily deliberated and was just Morris' sort of introductory paragraph to the actual document:

quote:

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.


This is merely explaining why we were casting off the Articles of Confederation and adopting this new constitution. I mean, you can argue that the changes during/after the Civil War and again during the New Deal/WWII greatly expanded to make it possible for the federal government to do all sorts of things not contemplated by the drafters, it is a hard sell to me that this throwaway line in the preamble (which has been used as a pretext for all sorts of expansion of federal power beyond the framers' intention) "mandates" "providing" (not even the word used - word was "promote" which means facilitate, encourage, subsidize even, but not "provide") for the general welfare of all citizens.

That's a tall order and you must be backing Bernie if that's your (IMHO wrong) interpretation.

Posted by td1
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
3157 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:55 pm to
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Question... if 100 people get the common flu, how many of them, on average, will die?

If 100 people get Covid19, how many of the, on average, will die?

Now... which is more deadly?


There is not a large enough sample size of accurate data and categories of those infected to be able to draw accurate statistical conclusions in comparing Corona to the flu yet.

Based on the publicly available data, it appears both seem to be highly deadly to the elderly and immunocompromised and equally less deadly to those who are generally healthy.



Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
13090 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:56 pm to
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more people in Asia will contract the virus


Racist virus!!
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 9:03 pm to
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Racist virus!!


Or is is Caucasian privilege?
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
28359 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 9:03 pm to
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my Filipina wife (no pics)




Come on, man. Most of us will be dead next week. Have a heart.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 9:12 pm to
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That's a tall order


First of all, great post.

Second, and as I pointed out before, we expect the Government through the CDC, and if necessary FEMA, to protect us from pandemics. These things don't square.

And no, I do not support Bernie. I just believe that of all the social programs we run in this country, medical care is the one you can actually justify.

Most everyone disagrees, and that's fine, but again, if this thing becomes nasty we will be expecting the Government to step in and save the day.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56138 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 9:16 pm to
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Now... which is more deadly?


I'd put my money on the ones eating the dead carcasses.
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