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re: USS Harry S. Truman hits merchant vessel in Mediterranean Sea
Posted on 2/13/25 at 12:14 pm to Robin Masters
Posted on 2/13/25 at 12:14 pm to Robin Masters
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Nicknamed Frosty.
Soon to be nicknamed “Mister”.
(And not in the “Mister Roberts” way)
Posted on 2/13/25 at 12:14 pm to HubbaBubba
This so feels like the 70s/early 80s before Reagan got in there and fixed shite.
Posted on 2/13/25 at 12:19 pm to HubbaBubba
This wasn’t an accident????
Posted on 2/13/25 at 12:23 pm to HeadCall
Apologies, gents. Spoke out of ignorance of details. Lots of factors at play here, apparently.
Posted on 2/13/25 at 12:27 pm to terd ferguson
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It sucks but they know when they take command that everything is on them.
Our CO lost command when one of our detachments overseas had a fatal accident. It was pilot error and though it was focused on lack of training, the blame fell on him. Too bad, he was a "sailors CO" and he was destined for higher authority. I hope he got another chance, but the Navy didn't give too many of those back then.
This post was edited on 2/13/25 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 2/13/25 at 12:31 pm to Traveler
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he was a "sailors CO" and he was destined for higher authority.
Same. The crew would have followed him into hell. Found him on LinkedIn a few years ago and he was high up in some defense contractor... so at least he made out alright.
It sucks losing a great leader over some stupid bullshite.
Posted on 2/13/25 at 12:33 pm to udtiger
1983
The time a nuclear aircraft carrier ran aground right before homecoming
USS Enterprise (CVN-65) sailed an eight-month tour before returning to San Francisco in April, 1983.
The carrier sailed under the Golden Gate Bridge at dawn. Enterprise was steered into port by a civilian pilot, but was turned back over to the hands of a Navy pilot before she ran aground. At about 9:30 a.m., the 90,000-ton ship missed the edge of a 400-yard wide, 40-foot deep ship channel while maneuvering through the morning overcast and wind. Enterprise was stuck on a sandbar just 1,000 yards from her berthing.
4,500 sailors and 3,000 family members could now just see each other, but were still far from being reunited. “It was a real drag, being so close and yet so far,” recalled Capt. Jack McAuley, “We couldn’t do anything but sit around and grin and bear it.” The ship’s skipper, Capt. Robert J. Kelly, sprung the crew into action to dislodge the carrier. In an effort to shift the ship’s center of balance, the crew assembled on the port side of the flight deck. Nine military and civilian tug boats joined the effort to free Enterprise. After nearly six hours of rocking, and with the help of the tide, Enterprise made it off the sandbar at 3:12 p.m.
Capt. Kelly took full responsibility for the incident. “I am the captain and I was in control. I am totally responsible for what happened,” he said during a news conference. “Naturally, it’s embarrassing.” Although collisions and groundings are usually career-enders for Navy ship captains, Capt. Kelly, who had been selected for promotion to commodore, was eventually promoted all the way to four-star admiral and served as the Commander-in-Chief of the U.S. Pacific Fleet from 1991 to 1994.
The time a nuclear aircraft carrier ran aground right before homecoming
USS Enterprise (CVN-65) sailed an eight-month tour before returning to San Francisco in April, 1983.
The carrier sailed under the Golden Gate Bridge at dawn. Enterprise was steered into port by a civilian pilot, but was turned back over to the hands of a Navy pilot before she ran aground. At about 9:30 a.m., the 90,000-ton ship missed the edge of a 400-yard wide, 40-foot deep ship channel while maneuvering through the morning overcast and wind. Enterprise was stuck on a sandbar just 1,000 yards from her berthing.
4,500 sailors and 3,000 family members could now just see each other, but were still far from being reunited. “It was a real drag, being so close and yet so far,” recalled Capt. Jack McAuley, “We couldn’t do anything but sit around and grin and bear it.” The ship’s skipper, Capt. Robert J. Kelly, sprung the crew into action to dislodge the carrier. In an effort to shift the ship’s center of balance, the crew assembled on the port side of the flight deck. Nine military and civilian tug boats joined the effort to free Enterprise. After nearly six hours of rocking, and with the help of the tide, Enterprise made it off the sandbar at 3:12 p.m.
Capt. Kelly took full responsibility for the incident. “I am the captain and I was in control. I am totally responsible for what happened,” he said during a news conference. “Naturally, it’s embarrassing.” Although collisions and groundings are usually career-enders for Navy ship captains, Capt. Kelly, who had been selected for promotion to commodore, was eventually promoted all the way to four-star admiral and served as the Commander-in-Chief of the U.S. Pacific Fleet from 1991 to 1994.
Posted on 2/13/25 at 12:34 pm to Indefatigable
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This likely wasn't in open water, but in the highly congested shipping lanes around the Suez Canal entrance in Port Said. So there likely wasn't what we think of as a screen around the carrier. The deep water channels can be narrow.
Seems like a terrible SOP for the Navy to a degree, and also an opportune spot for terrorists to operate.
Posted on 2/13/25 at 12:38 pm to terd ferguson
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Found him on LinkedIn a few years ago and he was high up in some defense contractor... so at least he made out alright.
Glad to hear it didn't hold him back on the civilian side. I don't know whatever happened to ours. He has probably passed away by now.
Posted on 2/13/25 at 12:42 pm to 50_Tiger
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Seems like a terrible SOP for the Navy to a degree, and also an opportune spot for terrorists to operate.
What’s the alternative? Just not use the Suez Canal?
Posted on 2/13/25 at 12:43 pm to HeadCall
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What’s the alternative? Just not use the Suez Canal?
Great question. No clue. But if my normie brain is thinking it, Muhammed is too.
Posted on 2/13/25 at 12:43 pm to HubbaBubba
A question no one wants to answer - could it have been done intentional? With a few sparks floating around, this isn't exactly a peaceful time. How long will the Truman be out of action?
Posted on 2/13/25 at 1:15 pm to Robin Masters
Well, unfortunately for him, Hegseth is holding people accountable. This ain't the Biden admin anymore. The rest of them better tighten up.
Posted on 2/13/25 at 1:21 pm to HubbaBubba
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USS Harry S. Truman hits merchant vessel in Mediterranean Sea
Thanks Trump!
Posted on 2/13/25 at 1:23 pm to 50_Tiger
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Seems like a terrible SOP for the Navy to a degree, and also an opportune spot for terrorists to operate.
Definitely not ideal. But probably better than having to take the Cape route.
This post was edited on 2/13/25 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 2/13/25 at 1:24 pm to HubbaBubba
As former active duty Navy let me tell y'all a secret. We have been hitting shite and running aground for years. Hell you can google my ship USS Port Royal CG-73 and see where it ran aground years after I was out.
Posted on 2/13/25 at 1:31 pm to HubbaBubba
Read headline.
Think China immediately.
Think this is impossible to not be something crazy.
Think it can't be to ships just not paying attention.
Forking planes and submarines are not suppose to be able to get close to an AC without being destroyed. Yet a ship with a cruising speed of about 10 mph can't be avoided???
Think China immediately.
Think this is impossible to not be something crazy.
Think it can't be to ships just not paying attention.
Forking planes and submarines are not suppose to be able to get close to an AC without being destroyed. Yet a ship with a cruising speed of about 10 mph can't be avoided???
Posted on 2/13/25 at 1:34 pm to tide06
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Isnt there an entire surface fleet designed to keep other vessels away from our carriers?
Usually there are escort destroyers, supply ships, maybe even cruisers, this is a major fail. Captain and the accompanying admiral should be shown the door.
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