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Posted on 8/11/21 at 3:38 pm to Mickey Goldmill
They can fire you for any reason right?
Posted on 8/11/21 at 3:39 pm to Mickey Goldmill
How does this stuff work if you’re in a union and have a CBA anyone know
Posted on 8/11/21 at 3:39 pm to JiminyCricket
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Same question I asked Mickey. You feel there should be absolutely zero done regarding how a company treats its employees under any circumstance?
correct. just like i dont beleive in minimum wage. If i want to accept a job for a dollar an hour....thats my choice.
FTR if you dont support a company being able to do as it pleases....you arent really small government.
FTR i support employees rights to turn around and leave or unionize or whatever as a way to fight what they feel is unfair practices.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 3:40 pm to JiminyCricket
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They can fire you for any reason right?
Yes, as long as it doesn't violate the law.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 3:41 pm to Mattmac12
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How does this stuff work if you’re in a union and have a CBA anyone know
The business would probably need to negotiate with the union.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 3:41 pm to lsu777
I just don’t understand why any company would mandate THIS. If they don’t have a precedent of mandating other inoculations for other things. I mean for what reason are they doing it. The pandemic if it ever existed is over
Posted on 8/11/21 at 3:43 pm to Mattmac12
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f being conservative means you have to have the idea that corporations can do no wrong then I guess I’m not.
who the frick said they do no wrong? but they should be punished by the free market.
this is what you dont understand. you dont like what a company does, so when your guy gets in office you scream until they pass something to restrict that freedom.....now 20 years later, your not in charge anymore and you opened the door for government intervention instead of just letting the free market sort it out.
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How do you think google gets away with north Korea level censorship of anything they don’t like. And there’s no getting away from it because they run the whole web
wait are you saying google doesnt have compitetion? last i checked there were other search engines, other phone manufactures, other web services etc. use those instead and if enough people feel the same as you...google will either reform or close up shop. If not, free market free markets.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 3:44 pm to lsu777
I understand. You’re a fan of the old days during industrialization and laissez faire government. Got it.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 3:45 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Nope, I do not agree with that statement. I believe private businesses should be able to conduct themselves in any manner they see fit as long as it doesn't violate the rights of others.
correction....they should be able to conduct themselves in a manner they see fit and with in their personal property rights so long as they do not violate the personal property rights of others.
ftr this includes being able to set the terms of employment which one is free to accept or decline.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 3:49 pm to JiminyCricket
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You’re a fan of the old days during industrialization and laissez faire government. Got
fan of freedom and personal property rights
i didnt say i was for old days of industrilization. im for employers and employees having the right in the information age to choose.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 3:51 pm to lsu777
Everyone in lockstep is not a free market. We don’t have a free market anymore. We have crony capitalism which is communism’s evil twin. When they declared certain businesses non essential last year and shut them down that basically told you all you needed to know
This post was edited on 8/11/21 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 8/11/21 at 3:51 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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The business would probably need to negotiate with the union.
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How does this stuff work if you’re in a union and have a CBA anyone know
no prolly about it. If a CBA exist this will have to be negotiated. Prolly arbitration and until both sides can come to an agreement the existing CBA would remain in effect.
FTR I 100% suppport the right of the UNION to tell the employer to go frick themselves.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 3:52 pm to Mattmac12
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Everyone in lockstep is not a free market. We don’t have a free market anymore. We have crony capitalism which is communism’s evil twin
that we can agree on. I hate it and feel the government telling businesses they can or can not or will or will not mandate this is another step towards more capitalism
Posted on 8/11/21 at 3:53 pm to lsu777
Butttt they have forced us to wear masks which is not in the contract so I’m afraid why would this be different. No matter I made a fake card because I knew this was coming “down the pipe” as soon as it rolled out
Posted on 8/11/21 at 3:53 pm to Mattmac12
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I just don’t understand why any company would mandate THIS. If they don’t have a precedent of mandating other inoculations for other things. I mean for what reason are they doing it. The pandemic if it ever existed is over
only reason would be they feel it is in the best interest of the bottom line of the company in some way. Might be to stay operating or might be insurance cost etc. but its the bottom line in the end.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 3:55 pm to lsu777
That doesn’t hold any water though because covid is a benign flu for anyone reasonably healthy under 70. Ffs it barely affected working people. The fact that kids whose risk of death is statistically ZERO are being forced to mask is unconscionable
This post was edited on 8/11/21 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 8/11/21 at 3:55 pm to Froman
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Weird hill to die on, literally
Sooner or later you have to choose a hill to die on. It may not be the finest hill, or the hill that you want, but you’ll find yourself there and you’ve got to make a choice.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 3:56 pm to Mattmac12
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That doesn’t hold any water though because covid is a benign flu for anyone reasonably healthy under 70. Ffs it barely affected working people
doesnt matter....if you are positive you can pass it along to others and then more are out. that affects the bottomline
Posted on 8/11/21 at 3:58 pm to lsu777
So the easy answer is for everyone to do what’s best for them. Of course the vaccine is useless and doesn’t work so this is a moot point anyway it’s just a power grab is all
This post was edited on 8/11/21 at 3:59 pm
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