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Posted on 4/30/18 at 7:03 pm to
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 4/30/18 at 7:03 pm to
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But you’ve still don’t know the credibility of the declarant!


She has earned the trust that she, as a real journalist, knows the credibility of the declarant. This is not a court of law. You are an idiot.
Posted by thetigerman
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
Member since Sep 2006
3630 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 7:03 pm to
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Don’t think that’s true.

Why did my post get whacked? It wasn't even controversial...
This post was edited on 4/30/18 at 7:05 pm
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 7:04 pm to
Your syllogism is this:

Sara Carter has used unnamed sources.
She was always right when she did.

Therefore she is right now.

Forget the “past performance doesn’t guarantee future results” causal flaw.
(It’s a problem.)

You posit that premise two is true just because you say so.

So show me.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 7:05 pm to
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unless you got a real track record for her


ding, ding, ding

before you ask, do your own homework.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 7:07 pm to
This is the board’s usual idiotic response.

“It’s true!”

Response: But things are not true just because you say so.

“Do your own homework!”

That’s some lazy arse thinking, you causeway clown.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 7:07 pm to
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Your syllogism is this:

Sara Carter has used unnamed sources.
She was always right when she did.

Therefore she is right now.


I didnt imply that, you inferred it.

What I DID say is that unnamed sources are more acceptable from someone who has been consistently right then they are from someone who is consistently wrong.

At NO point did I say that Sarah Carter was definitely right THIS time.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
164156 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 7:09 pm to
boosie, stop using big words before polly pixie lover signs on and wants your digits.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 7:11 pm to
I agree with you there. And in fairness, I can see how you might trust a journalist you follow more than one you don’t. But you are also more likely to remember when she’s right more than when she’s wrong once you are invested.

I genuinely appreciate your candor. It’s better than the usual bluster here.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 7:11 pm to
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You misspelled transferred to the worst station the Army has to offer


Thule.
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 7:12 pm to
Depending on how the CSA (Chief of Staff, Army) wants to view this situation, this Army doc could be up for Article 107 False Official Statement. That would automatically lead to Article 134 Conduct Unbecoming an Officer. But Art 134 could be on the table as a stand alone. And yes, that could be courts martial material.

Trump is CIC and can dismiss this Army doc from service entirely, but that doc would get retirement and all that. The other they can do is have an administrative hearing to entertain the equivalent of those two articles, but with a lower burden of proof - if guilty they can recommend separation for misconduct which could lead to loss of pension, depending on the circumstances.

If this is true, however, I would expect to see an official reprimand from Trump and from the CSA, and then the unceremonious retirement of this doctor.
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10610 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 7:15 pm to
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That dude isn't an attorney LOL


Understood.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 7:16 pm to
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Depending on how the CSA (Chief of Staff, Army) wants to view this situation, this Army doc could be up for Article 107 False Official Statement. That would automatically lead to Article 134 Conduct Unbecoming an Officer. But Art 134 could be on the table as a stand alone. And yes, that could be courts martial material.

Trump is CIC and can dismiss this Army doc from service entirely, but that doc would get retirement and all that. The other they can do is have an administrative hearing to entertain the equivalent of those two articles, but with a lower burden of proof - if guilty they can recommend separation for misconduct which could lead to loss of pension, depending on the circumstances.

If this is true, however, I would expect to see an official reprimand from Trump and from the CSA, and then the unceremonious retirement of this doctor.


She won't be prosecuted for taking a complaint to the Senate. And transferring her to some shite hole and making sure she never gets another promotion is where her life is headed. She just ended her own career.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 7:16 pm to
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“Do your own homework!” That’s some lazy arse thinking, you causeway clown.


So I'm lazy because I will not "prove" my theory, but you are not lazy because you will not prove your theory that Sarah Carter's unnamed sources are not any better than anyone else's?

Got it.

Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 7:18 pm to
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Or something is obvious.


Yeah? What’s that, farm boy?
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 7:21 pm to
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So I'm lazy because I will not "prove" my theory, but you are not lazy because you will not prove your theory that Sarah Carter's unnamed sources are not any better than anyone else's?

Got it.




Uh what? If someone said "Sid is a liar" the onus would be on them to prove that. Literally no one would be like "Hey Sid, that guy says you lie, you need to prove you don't lie"

Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 7:22 pm to
Burden is on the asserter. That’s pretty well understood.

Otherwise the argument is just “you should believe this reporter because I do.”
Posted by Rekrul
Member since Feb 2007
9415 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 7:22 pm to
Judge is an uneducated lazy alter and a troll, his response in this thread confirms that 100%. The dumbass will be banned soon, and it’s well deserved
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 7:23 pm to
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Burden is on the asserter. That’s pretty well understood.


That's true, that is why I used the example. If someone said you are dishonest, they must prove it. You don't have to prove you are not.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 7:23 pm to
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You on the Internet? You have Google in your backward arse hick town? Google it Barrister. Or have your paralegal do it for you tomorrow, and bill someone for it. It's obvious you're an attorney. Or something is obvious


How the frick did that clown pass the bar? He's obviously as dumb as a rock.
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 7:24 pm to
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She won't be prosecuted for taking a complaint to the Senate.


There is a huge difference between a complaint and a pack of lies. So far it appears she brought forth lies. And this isn't the typical high ranking officer stuff they can sweep under the rug. It's in the news cycle, it adversely affected another officer, and it makes the Army look bad.
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