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Posted on 8/24/23 at 3:09 pm to
Posted by PorkSammich
North FL
Member since Sep 2013
17320 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 3:09 pm to
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Jjdoc finna melt


Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
37124 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 3:13 pm to
What do you make of the simple question: who won the debate?


The answer per the people was Ron Desantis.



And frankly he sucked in that debate.
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
5858 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 3:16 pm to
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hat do you make of the simple question: who won the debate?


The answer per the people was Ron Desantis.



And frankly he sucked in that debate.




I did not watch the debate but have seen the high lights. They all sucked really.
Posted by BornKjun
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2008
1018 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 3:16 pm to
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: who won the debate?


When more people have a higher favorability rating for DeSantis than anyone else, you'd expect a lot of those people to think that he won the debate.

Think about it, how many Trump voters would say Trump won?

The top "next two after Trump" guys in the polls are also the ones who "WON" the debate.

DeSantis did fine. But his opponents gained on him.

This post was edited on 8/24/23 at 3:18 pm
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
22468 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 3:17 pm to
80% of respondents said Christie is still too fat to see his pecker.
Posted by B2BWWchamps
Jasper, FL
Member since Aug 2023
672 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 3:18 pm to


that is a dickie do
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6-- the Brazos River Valley
Member since Sep 2015
31182 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 3:21 pm to
Interesting results. The only clear message from this poll is that Trump is everything that everybody knew he was: a coward.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 8/24/23 at 3:21 pm to
So we like polls again? I can’t keep track desantis bros
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 3:23 pm to
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So we like polls again? I can’t keep track desantis bros


We like data. You may not understand why, but this is decent data.
Posted by Perfect Circle
S W Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
7829 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 3:25 pm to
The Washington Post....

You mean to tell me the Corporatocracy's lap dog media has picked the candidate with their blessing as the winner?

I'm shocked!
Posted by Jimmy Montrose
Lake Highlands
Member since Aug 2021
1453 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 3:25 pm to
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The[ones who actually have a chance of winning the primary] all sucked really.


The correct answer - but they mostly ignored Meatball Ron, so in the end, I can see how people think he "won".
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 3:25 pm to
@jBUMPdawgs03 your thoughts?
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
37124 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 3:28 pm to
quote:

When more people have a higher favorability rating for DeSantis than anyone else, you'd expect a lot of those people to think that he won the debate. Think about it, how many Trump voters w



I guess some people aren’t objective but there’s no way in good conscience I could say he won the debate. And I’m a well known Ron bot


If I HAD to answer “who won the debate” I’d say either Haley or Christie. Did I like ALL of their answers HELL NO but they seemed relaxed prepared and answered the questions.

Desantis wanted to get his talking points in. No matter what and then he delivered those talking points with an awkward tone.


Ramaswammy came across like the desperate guy in not another teen movie


Please Donald love me! I love you!



Burgum was boring but solid policy wise.

Asa was bad policy wise and poor delivery.

Scott was mediocre.


Pence. Man. I know that it takes a massive ego to think that you yourself is the answer to this country’s problems but man. The 2020 election stuff gave this guy a god complex.

This post was edited on 8/24/23 at 3:37 pm
Posted by TigerIron
Member since Feb 2021
3949 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 3:31 pm to
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We like data. You may not understand why, but this is decent data.


The WaPo before and after poll may be, though it would depend on how they picked the group. Polling them before and after might yield some good data though.

I wouldn't trust a hand picked Fox News focus group of "regular people" R voters any farther than I could throw Chris Christie.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
156594 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 3:32 pm to
Unless it was positive for trump.
Posted by BornKjun
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2008
1018 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 3:33 pm to
quote:

Is 62% now 67%?


You're right. For some reason the graphic only showed movements for Vivek and Nikki and not for DeSantis. That's where I typed that from. You're correct that it went from 62 to 67.
Posted by TigerIron
Member since Feb 2021
3949 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 3:35 pm to
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Unless it was positive for trump.


No, I'm not a Trump guy. I just know not to trust the MSM even when it says things I would like to think are true. It's frankly bizarre to me how people who absolutely know how full of shite the MSM is are so quick to accept what it says when it's something they like.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 3:35 pm to
Looking at trends in the data help avoid bias. I don't think anyone worth listening to would claim this data means Meatball will win. What it really shows us is that when he's able to get his message out, people tend to like what he has to say. That's an absolute positive as we get closer to all of this mattering.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29653 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 3:36 pm to
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The bad news for Vivek here is that his unfavorable went from 13 to 32%


Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
37124 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 3:39 pm to
quote:

but they mostly ignored Meatball Ron, so in the end, I can see how people think he "won".


Vivek barely even went after him.


It was weird.


The person who kept talking and kept friggin interrupting was Pence. Which pence interrupting the moderator was completely out of character from 2016-2020.
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