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re: West Memphis three
Posted on 6/24/21 at 5:15 pm to Baylor Kyle
Posted on 6/24/21 at 5:15 pm to Baylor Kyle
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. A hair found on Stevie Branch was consist with his stepfather, Terry Hobbs (and several million other peop
Close, but no cigar. The hair from the Michael Moore ligature was found to correspond with the mtDNA profile of cigarettes from the home of Terry Hobbs. The hair from the tree trunk was found to correspond to the mtDNA profile of David Jacoby, Hobbs friend. Just a coincidence I’m sure. Meanwhile, isn’t it funny that this smoking gun necklace wasn’t even offered into evidence by the prosecution? It’s almost as if..: it’s complete bullshite
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Posted on 6/24/21 at 5:26 pm to REG861
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The hair from the Michael Moore ligature was found to correspond with the mtDNA profile of cigarettes from the home of Terry Hobbs.
And so if they were tied up with shoelaces, doesn’t get you very far, does it? How many of your family members hair do you think is in the shoelaces of your kid right now?
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The hair from the tree trunk was found to correspond to the mtDNA profile of David Jacoby, Hobbs friend. Just a coincidence I’m sure.
Maybe they tied the kid to a tree with another shoelace, which had picked up all kinds of hair from the home? Where does that get you? No DNA from these alleged killers on these ligatures, outside of hair?
ETA: What if framing these guys was the original plan by these obviously corrupt hick cops, which then fell through when it was found out that one of the WM3 had confessed to hurting these exact kids with two of his friends, before anyone knew where they were?
This post was edited on 6/24/21 at 5:31 pm
Posted on 6/24/21 at 5:40 pm to REG861
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Close, but no cigar. The hair from the Michael Moore ligature was found to correspond with the mtDNA profile of cigarettes from the home of Terry Hobbs. The hair from the tree trunk was found to correspond to the mtDNA profile of David Jacoby, Hobbs friend. Just a coincidence I’m sure. Meanwhile, isn’t it funny that this smoking gun necklace wasn’t even offered into evidence by the prosecution? It’s almost as if..: it’s complete bull shite
It is easy to distract with silliness. If you believe Hobbs did it, then lay out a theory of the crime. Layout the timeline that cannot be contradicted that shows how he could have done it? Otherwise, stop libeling people. It is easy to through out crap but much harder actually to craft a case.
The hairs would be compelling in the presence of other evidence. However, on their own they are easily explainable. As noted, the hairs are consist with not definitive and could match myriad other people. The woods were a trafficed, public place. Finding a hair there is not shocking on its own.
From the westmemphisthreefacts.org web site quoting the defense expert:
"The two hairs that I know about – the one that could have in fact come from Mr. Hobbs and the one that could have in fact come from David Jacoby – constitute what I call weak evidence. Because there are other people it could have come from and there isn’t any way to really prove our selection of possible sources for that hair. I don’t think – my personal opinion – I don’t think that that hair evidence would be enough to convict Mr. Hobbs or Mr. Jacoby or anyone that would be in a similar situation because it’s simply not strong enough. The percentages I gave of people who could be the source of those hairs are 1.5% of the population in the respect to one hair and 7% in respect to the other hair. That’s not particularly strong evidence and especially in the context of what most people are accustomed to with DNA testing." - Thomas Fedor, Forensic Serologist
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Conversely, in the context of the other evidence (direct and circumstantial), the blood on the necklace, the candle wax, and the fibers connecting Echols and Baldwin to the murders are exponentially more compelling. No, I would not convict on each independently, but taken together with the rest of the evidence, it supports the state's theory of the case.
You have to apply a consistent standard. As I have stated, these have to be the three most unlucky guys in the world to have all this evidence point to them and be innocent ... of course, none has an alibi, which is weird.
I'll ask again:
1. Explain the Evan Williams bottle
2. Explain how each of the three could not produce an alibi
3. Explain the blood and the wax
This post was edited on 6/24/21 at 5:53 pm
Posted on 6/24/21 at 6:33 pm to REG861
quote:This thread has convinced me that this chick is a masochist
REG861
Posted on 6/24/21 at 6:36 pm to Roaad
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This thread has convinced me that this chick is a masochist
You must not have seen the list of drug addicted, irresponsible, immature, entitled, and mostly talentless celebrities that have declared them innocent!
Posted on 6/24/21 at 9:54 pm to troyt37
quote:Right. And I'm right in my assessment. 3 uneducated, abused citizens in the pen for 18 years (and one of them almost legally retarded) simply wanted out. What was their alternative to not copping when offered? Their convictions had not been vacated. It's weird that you won't acknowledge that simple fact. Had they ALREADY BEEN OUT OF PRISON, then sure, I could see at least one of them having the stones to go the distance on another trial.
While letting them cop Alford seems inexplicable to you, wanting to cop Alford, turning your back on millions of dollars, branding yourself a child murderer x3, and proving correct all those celebrities who had successfully branded everyone involved in the case ignorant redneck hicks, bent on putting da debbil in jail, is equally as inexplicable to myself and many others.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 10:39 pm to JimNat
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West Memphis three
Weren't they bragging that 'people will never forget us now' after the murders?
Posted on 6/24/21 at 11:10 pm to JColtF
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Weren't they bragging that 'people will never forget us now' after the murders?
Echols had bragged during one of his myriad (pre-murder) psych evaluations that the world would remember him.
While it is tempting to buy into the Hollywood weirdo-Metallica-satanic propaganda, anyone who has actually researched the case quickly realizes that Echols was a prototypical psychotic serial killer.
Posted on 6/25/21 at 8:35 am to Big Scrub TX
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3 uneducated, abused citizens in the pen for 18 years (and one of them almost legally retarded) simply wanted out. What was their alternative to not copping when offered?
Well, using this grand and glorious evidence that had prosecutors and judges quaking in their boots about exposing their dastardly deeds and putting these fine upstanding dindus in prison for crimes any retard could see they didn't commit, of course. Then they would be free to sue the shite out of the state, which won't get their lost time back for them, but it would damn sure make the time they have left more enjoyable.
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Their convictions had not been vacated. It's weird that you won't acknowledge that simple fact.
Why would their convictions be vacated? Go back and re-read this thread. You kicked up a big stink about this supposed new evidence, like it would have made a difference, and then crawfished like hell when it was shown that even with the best lawyers money could buy, and various and sundry celebrities denigrating and destroying the names and reputations of all involved, all the way up to the entire state of Arkansas, didn't produce diddly shite to say that they were innocent. I have acknowledged the fact many times, what's weird is that it seems you think that some tiny scintilla of possibly completely unrelated "evidence" should have resulted in the state vacating the convictions. Is it Demi Lovato, or Hank Williams III that carries so much weight with you?
This post was edited on 6/25/21 at 8:59 am
Posted on 6/25/21 at 8:53 am to troyt37
I love knowing how mad you mouth breathers are over this. It’s one big liberal conspiracy and the jokes on you!
Posted on 6/25/21 at 9:03 am to REG861
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I love knowing how mad you mouth breathers are over this. It’s one big liberal conspiracy and the jokes on you!
Nobody is mad, Scooter. Hate to burst your bubble. As far as conspiracy, your lack of self awareness regarding your positions and opinions makes that assertion quite entertaining.
Posted on 6/25/21 at 9:21 am to troyt37
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Nobody is mad, Scooter. Hate to burst your bubble. As far as conspiracy, your lack of self awareness regarding your positions and opinions makes that assertion quite entertaining.
These things are so predictable I could actually written this response myself.
Posted on 6/25/21 at 9:51 pm to Baylor Kyle
I think also before the murders, he bragged that he would be the boogeyman of West Memphis.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 12:48 am to dchog
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I think also before the murders, he bragged that he would be the boogeyman of West Memphis.
Correct. Amazing how facts and direct questions so easily chase the girls away from the discussion.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 6:55 am to Baylor Kyle
Late bump
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Damien Echols filed a complaint in the Circuit Court of Crittenden County asking the court to “declare that the WMPD violated its statutory obligation to respond to the FOIA request” and “direct the WMPD to respond to the FOIA request within three days.”
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Echols, through his Arkansas-based attorney, Patrick Benca, asked police and prosecutors in May of 2020 to do new DNA testing on key pieces of evidence that were collected. At first, prosecutors seemed amenable to the testing, but then stopped communicating with the Echols team, and the police are not complying with repeated Freedom of Information requests which is a violation of state law, the complaint states.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 7:47 am to OccamsStubble
quote:Some of you people are so gullible.
so a kid with an IQ of a turnip
Posted on 9/15/21 at 7:48 am to Jake88
What do you mean "you people"
Posted on 9/15/21 at 7:49 am to pioneerbasketball
I mean "you people."
Posted on 9/15/21 at 7:30 pm to Jake88
White people?
Black people?
Black people?
Posted on 9/15/21 at 7:55 pm to JimNat
They’re guilty. I can’t believe people fall for the Hollywood BS.
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