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re: What is the single defining characteristic of Fascism?

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Posted by bamafan1001
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Posted on 4/7/18 at 8:45 pm to
In what world does that that chart make any damn sense
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Posted on 4/7/18 at 8:46 pm to
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Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause


lefty gonna lefty
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 4/7/18 at 8:47 pm to
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Unable/unwilling to tolerate difference of opinion. To the point to where you cannot even voice your opinion.



So where are we seeing this all day every day?
Posted by cahoots
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Posted on 4/7/18 at 8:48 pm to
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I don't dispute the taste of fascism in the military argument...to a point. However, there's no "private market" that exists in healthcare consumerism since we're all required by law to purchase it.



There's still something that resembles a market though. You can shop around for health insurance. You can choose not to have it and pay a fine.

You have no such freedoms regarding the military.
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Posted by DavidTheGnome
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Posted on 4/7/18 at 8:48 pm to
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In what world does that that chart make any damn sense



It’s a simplistic way of thinking of these things but what about it are you disagreeing with?

Edit: I’m guessing it’s the libertarianism that’s throwing you? If so I agree, there are a number of ways of trying to represent this but like I said before it’s trying to plot abstract ideas. It’s going to be a bit messy
This post was edited on 4/7/18 at 8:53 pm
Posted by Stingray
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Posted on 4/7/18 at 8:49 pm to
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Unable/unwilling to tolerate difference of opinion. To the point to where you cannot even voice your opinion.


This is the first interesting answer.

Please expound why.

And, is the above associated with any other political form?
Posted by cahoots
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Posted on 4/7/18 at 8:49 pm to
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In what world does that that chart make any damn sense



Dude it's impossible to lay out all political theories neatly on a spectrum. Right wing and left wing are gross oversimplifications of reality but they are still useful.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Posted on 4/7/18 at 8:51 pm to
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What makes Fascism, Fascism?


Everybody gets a car.



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Posted on 4/7/18 at 8:51 pm to
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Posted by Kraut Dawg
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Posted on 4/7/18 at 8:56 pm to
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Posted by narddogg81
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Posted on 4/7/18 at 9:00 pm to
There is no single defining characteristic attribute of fascism. Probably the most important and consistent attribute though is authoritarianism and supremacy of the state in all things
Posted by DavidTheGnome
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Posted on 4/7/18 at 9:03 pm to
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Are we forced by law to buy pieces of the military in the same manner? No.



I pay taxes and have zero say in whether that money pays for a military or not. So yes we are all forced by the government to purchase military equipment.
Posted by austintigerdad
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Posted on 4/7/18 at 9:04 pm to
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What is the single defining characteristic of Fascism?
That's easy.

It's the belief that “corporations are people, my friend.”
Posted by bamafan1001
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Posted on 4/7/18 at 9:05 pm to
None of the charts you posted are correct. The left is desperate to classify small government conservatives with a term that is historically negative.

The only chart that would make sense would be relative size and power of the government from big to small. Fascism, Socialism, Communism, Progressivism, Democrat, Neo-con Establishment GOP are all on the big government side. Conservatism, Libertarianism, Anarchism all on the small
government side.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 4/7/18 at 9:06 pm to
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His list was a good one


No. No it wasn't.
Posted by bamafan1001
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Posted on 4/7/18 at 9:09 pm to
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Right wing and left wing are gross oversimplifications of reality but they are still useful


Useful for leftists who wanna be deceitful about conservatism. They love to classify fringe racist and extreme nationalists as “far right” in an attempt to conflate those things with small government fiscal, conservatism.
This post was edited on 4/7/18 at 9:22 pm
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 4/7/18 at 9:11 pm to
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TigerDoc
Sounds a lot like, well, government. So basically if you support a large government you support fascism..:or communism or whatever you want to call totalitarianism this week. They’re all different sides of the same coin. If you want to stay away from totalitarianism then stop voting for a larger or more powerful government.


Also why didn’t you link your quote?
Posted by Kraut Dawg
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Posted on 4/7/18 at 9:11 pm to
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Posted by DavidTheGnome
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Posted on 4/7/18 at 9:11 pm to
And once again, they are charts attempting to plot abstract ideas so they aren’t going to be 100% spot on. You sensing some sort of attack from the left out of a simple left/right political spectrum chart is odd though.
Posted by cahoots
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Posted on 4/7/18 at 9:12 pm to
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"Resembles" a market means it's not a market. It's a good/service produced privately that's controlled governmentally. That's how your military comparison is agreeable.



Dude, virtually all goods and services are subject to some level of government control. Healthcare is definitely on the higher end of the control spectrum. However, there is still a market for health insurance. There is competition. It isn't a government monopoly.

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But where's the consumerism of the military complex? Are we forced by law to buy pieces of the military in the same manner? No.



What do you mean? I can't stop the military from doing whatever it damn well pleases.

I'm not downplaying the "paying a fine" thing. I'm saying that I have some personal choice in healthcare. I can get coverage from my employer. I can choose to cover my spouse. I can buy my own health insurance from a host of providers.

I have no personal control over military spending, other than my vote. All of the power rests with the state.
This post was edited on 4/7/18 at 9:13 pm
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