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re: When Republicans massively underperform tonight, remember it didnt have to be this way
Posted on 11/4/25 at 7:59 am to CleverUserName
Posted on 11/4/25 at 7:59 am to CleverUserName
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Coming from the one using NPC memes as responses in this thread?
You think NPCs are making analysis like the post you quoted from?
Update: they are not.
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Posted on 11/4/25 at 8:01 am to SlowFlowPro
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You think NPCs are making analysis like the post you quoted from? Update: they are not.
Fail reply #2. IQ points deducted.
Posted on 11/4/25 at 8:01 am to SlowFlowPro
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Sounds like some neocon WOT bullshite after 911
And yet I notice you have nothing substantial to refute it. I think I might have stepped on your toes a little with the last part. You're a pretty comfortable guy, right? Always have been? Grew up going to a private school, you've posted before? "Work" from home a good bit of the time? Pretty coddled, pretty comfortable.
I rest my case.
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Well that is antithetical to much of the MAGA philosophy which is largely built in isolationism.
Well, that is debatable depending upon how much you think Trump = MAGA.
It's one of the more idiotic facets of MAGA. Trump has never been the isolationist pussy that the MAGA crowd wants, yet they still act surprised when he acts contrary to what he's always done, which is act responsibly and appropriately when foreign affairs demand his attention.
He needs to tell Huckster Carlson to shut up. That guy is solely responsible for probably 80% of the infighting in the party. He's the only explanation I have for cult members who otherwise would back Trump on just about anything he says or does, no matter how inadvisable, but consistently act shocked and betrayed when Trump acts appropriately with regard to foreign affairs, even though he's never done anything else in his entire political history.
People really, really, really need to stop listening to that guy.
Posted on 11/4/25 at 8:02 am to goldennugget
I think DJT is just not going to rock the boat too much with Thiel, Elon, Vivek, etc. So, you get a balancing act with the $100k fee.
Posted on 11/4/25 at 8:02 am to NC_Tigah
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Now do the associated law ... you know ... the precedent thing
When has Trump cared about this as it inhibits Executive power this term?
His admin has constantly argued the Executive has basically no oversight or check, and in many cases even no judicial review, as long as there is a scintilla of Congressional authorization. Considering that there is clear Congressional authorization here for his admin to act, my question stands.
Why isn't Trump treating H1B the same as he is illegal immigration, "narco terror", attacking independent agency status, etc?
Posted on 11/4/25 at 8:02 am to SlowFlowPro
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Sure, there are the uneducated political neophyte types who simply can't conceptualize it. I'm talking more about the group who has morphed from GWB-era neocons to Tea Party types to purported libertarian-types who now claim MAGA. The ones who have gone through 3-4 distinct philosophy changes in a short 20-year period.
My views haven't evolved. I voted Ron Paul in 2012 because I had high school classmates die for nothing in Iraq. Opposing pointless nation building regime change foreign conflicts is the #1 reason I vote the way I do. Trump said all the right things in 2016 and 2024 about foreign conflicts and his first term did a good job keeping us out of it but his 2nd term he has seemed to be more of a neocon people pleaser on foreign conflicts.
My other top issue obviously is work visa abuse because I've been laid off one too many times and forced to train my Indian replacement to get my severance. It's absolute bullshite its allowed to happen. I had an Iraq veteran co worker who took bullets in Iraq get laid off with me at my last job and replaced by an Indian. And people wonder why veteran suicide is at an all time high. Treating a veteran that way who took a bullet in favor of Indians is disgusting.
Posted on 11/4/25 at 8:03 am to wackatimesthree
That's fine, but when people who supported him just perceive his behavior as nothing different from the average neocon, he and the movement will lose support. A large part of his platform was torching GWB/Cheney/Haley, etc.
Posted on 11/4/25 at 8:08 am to Bunk Moreland
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A large part of his platform was torching GWB/Cheney/Haley, etc.
He's a politician. He's going to say whatever he has to say to get elected.
It's usually the Democrats who have a problem with understanding that what someone says doesn't make a hill of beans. It's what someone does that matters.
If you could watch Trump bomb Syria multiple times and assassinate Iranian Generals and do things like classify the Iranian military as a terrorist organization during his first term and not understand that what you're referring to was just campaign rhetoric, I don't know what to tell you.
He's always acted like an adult with regard to foreign policy. Thank God.
There's simply no way to reasonably think that he's ever going to be the child y'all want as Commander In Chief.
Posted on 11/4/25 at 8:08 am to wackatimesthree
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And yet I notice you have nothing substantial to refute it.
No, I do. It was included in the post: the War on Terror and all of its bullshite refutes your point. MAGA/AF was supposed to be against WOT-like policies and neocon bullshite.
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Grew up going to a private school, you've posted before?
What? I grew up pretty poor in a single-earning parent household with an alcoholic father who went off the rails after 2nd grade.
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"Work" from home a good bit of the time?
Not as much anymore but I own my own company and can work from almost anywhere that has an internet connection and a laptop. I built my company that way (prior to Covid, mind you).
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Pretty coddled, pretty comfortable.
My comfort is built by a combination of winning the genetic lottery (via my IQ), being lucky to have my specific mother (who was trained in dealing with high IQ types being a Gifted schoolteacher), and my effort thereafter. I guess you could say luck being on this board in 2007 and 2008 to see the impending RE crash and financial crash. I'll give Jersey Tiger that credick.
I've never been given anything, never received any inheritance, or even taken out a loan for my business. Hell, I've never even taken money from public sources (like various PDO contracts most lawyers starting out rely on for money).
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Well, that is debatable depending upon how much you think Trump = MAGA.
I am talking MAGA/AF, not Trump. Trump has no real principles.
MAGA/AF is built on more isolationist policies, though.
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He needs to tell Huckster Carlson to shut up. That guy is solely responsible for probably 80% of the infighting in the party. He's the only explanation I have for cult members who otherwise would back Trump on just about anything he says or does, no matter how inadvisable, but consistently act shocked and betrayed when Trump acts appropriately with regard to foreign affairs, even though he's never done anything else in his entire political history.
That's going to steer this in an unnecessary direction towards discussing Israel. We can table that for threads specifically about Israel and not this thread.
Posted on 11/4/25 at 8:10 am to wackatimesthree
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If you could watch Trump bomb Syria multiple times and assassinate Iranian Generals and do things like classify the Iranian military as a terrorist organization during his first term and not understand that what you're referring to was just campaign rhetoric, I don't know what to tell you.
Listen, I was called all sorts of names by the MAGA NPCs for pointing this out and how the talking points about him being neocon were bullshite.
In admin 1, Trump engaged in military actions basically anytime he had the opportunity to do so. Admin 2 has continued the trend.
Posted on 11/4/25 at 8:11 am to goldennugget
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Trump said all the right things in 2016 and 2024 about foreign conflicts and his first term did a good job keeping us out of it but his 2nd term he has seemed to be more of a neocon people pleaser on foreign conflicts.
As I said during the Biden era, the lack of foreign entanglements in admin 1 was more a function of lack of opportunity to do so.
Not only has he had more opportunities this time (Iran, Ukraine, etc.), but he's manufacturing plenty more (Venezuela, Mexico, Nigeria, etc.)
Posted on 11/4/25 at 8:14 am to SlowFlowPro
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When has Trump cared about this as it inhibits Executive power this term?
You know… I have enjoyed your long posts on the abuses of the judiciary. The judiciary that had children obtaining funds from the opposition party while that judge presided over Trump litigation… the continually reversed injunctions..
The complicit FISA abuses that directly violated the 4th amendment…
Oh!! Wait a minute!!!
Nothing you can say or do can help the profession of law from being labeled as absolute scumbags from top to bottom.
Sorry.
This post was edited on 11/4/25 at 8:17 am
Posted on 11/4/25 at 8:16 am to CleverUserName
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You know… I have enjoyed your long posts on the abuses of the judiciary. The judiciary that had children obtaining funds from the opposition party while that judge presided over Trump litigation… the continually reversed injunctions.. etc.
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When has Trump cared about this as it inhibits Executive power this term?
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The judiciary
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Executive power
wut
Posted on 11/4/25 at 8:21 am to goldennugget
Op to both of his friends:“Tigerdroppings is turning on Trump”
Posted on 11/4/25 at 8:21 am to SlowFlowPro
You see…. There are three branches of federal government. You may consult an elementary schoolbook to confirm.
Now here is where the grade level increases. Take a deep breath. You can follow this. Someone will help you if you have trouble. Ready? Here we go.
You chose to attack the current executive, as you continue to do, about abusing the checks put in place. I, very simply, showed that in your continual concern for the executive while only Trump is in office, you always act like the judiciary is above reproach with a partial sarcastic reply.
If I need to dumb it down.. just let me know.
Now here is where the grade level increases. Take a deep breath. You can follow this. Someone will help you if you have trouble. Ready? Here we go.
You chose to attack the current executive, as you continue to do, about abusing the checks put in place. I, very simply, showed that in your continual concern for the executive while only Trump is in office, you always act like the judiciary is above reproach with a partial sarcastic reply.
If I need to dumb it down.. just let me know.
Posted on 11/4/25 at 8:22 am to goldennugget
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When Republicans massively underperform tonight, remember it didnt have to be this way
Are there major elections today that I should be watching out for?
Posted on 11/4/25 at 8:24 am to goldennugget
Hey, I wonder if the Democratic shutdown has to do with the vote tonight? Like will the government open up as soon as the Dems get their guys elected??? Hmmmm…. I just wonder??
Posted on 11/4/25 at 8:25 am to imjustafatkid
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Are there major elections today that I should be watching out for?
No. The media is going to pop champagne and set off fireworks tonight about republicans not winning in blue states and cities. And then they will convince the smooth brains that it is a rebuke to the administration.
Posted on 11/4/25 at 8:27 am to CamdenTiger
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Hey, I wonder if the Democratic shutdown has to do with the vote tonight?
It did leave deep blue northern Virginia, who works in the federal government, a complete day off to vote while the southern part of the state has to work and then vote.
Posted on 11/4/25 at 8:28 am to goldennugget
'younger disaffected males" Should be working and not being a bunch of pussies.
Signed, Hard Working Boomer
Signed, Hard Working Boomer
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