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re: Where did the 60K death estimate come from?
Posted on 4/24/20 at 9:59 am to Buckeye Jeaux
Posted on 4/24/20 at 9:59 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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I'm not a doc, but I have 4 in my family. The abrupt (and highly questionable to fraudulent) changes in CDC COVID-19 reporting are well known in the medical community AND in the general public. Quit blowing smoke. You're embarrassing yourself.
You are embarrassing yourself. There are excess deaths. No amount of mis classification of deaths creates MORE DEATHS.
NYC has a higher death toll because they have a lot more infections, probably 20% or more of the city.
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Posted on 4/24/20 at 9:59 am to IslandBuckeye
No. I'm honestly curious how someone arrived at that number so recently as it doesn't seem even remotely plausible at this point.
I'd argue 70K is probably a pretty optimistic projection at this point
I'd argue 70K is probably a pretty optimistic projection at this point
Posted on 4/24/20 at 9:59 am to IslandBuckeye
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In other words, I see you as a bright guy that loves to argue.
Dudes not bright at all. Hes been hoping for a higher toll. It's weird
Whatever the number it is at the end cut it in half and that's more likely the correct amount
Posted on 4/24/20 at 10:00 am to Powerman
The New York study that came out a few days ago is the perfect petri dish to test these ridiculous numbers. The study stated approximately 94% of people who have passed from this disease had underlying conditions. Extrapolate that number nationwide and you have a true number of deaths caused solely by the virus at a few thousand when it's all said and done.
All the pie-in-the-sky numbers are BS.
LINK
All the pie-in-the-sky numbers are BS.
LINK
Posted on 4/24/20 at 10:01 am to Wtodd
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Outta someone's arse
This is the correct answer
Posted on 4/24/20 at 10:06 am to VictoryHill
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Extrapolate that number nationwide and you have a true number of deaths caused solely by the virus at a few thousand when it's all said and done.
What?
You think someone with hypertension and diabetes was destined to die anyway?
The reality is that the majority of patients over 65 have hypertension or diabetes. They aren’t dying from their blood pressure it’s just a confounding variable because it’s so ubiquitous in society.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 10:08 am to SDVTiger
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Hes been hoping for a higher toll. It's weird
I'm hoping for a lower toll so we can get back to normalcy ASAP
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Whatever the number it is at the end cut it in half and that's more likely the correct amount
There is some fudging of the numbers but no way it's this bad
Posted on 4/24/20 at 10:10 am to WaWaWeeWa
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What?
You think someone with hypertension and diabetes was destined to die anyway?
uh, yes, of course
somebody hold this fake accountable
Posted on 4/24/20 at 10:11 am to Harry Rex Vonner
Everyone is destined to die eventually
But having hypertension or diabetes doesn't mean you were going to die within the next year
But having hypertension or diabetes doesn't mean you were going to die within the next year
Posted on 4/24/20 at 10:15 am to Powerman
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I'm hoping for a lower toll so we can get back to normalcy ASAP
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There is some fudging of the numbers but no way it's this bad
Some?
Posted on 4/24/20 at 10:15 am to Powerman
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No chance of us coming in under that number at this point
How far off will we be?
Posted on 4/24/20 at 10:16 am to moneyg
Hes says 70k minimum now
So 10k more 99yr olds that got corona
So 10k more 99yr olds that got corona
Posted on 4/24/20 at 10:18 am to Tony Tiger89
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If you take out Heart attacks, Strokes, and Cancer deaths. These numbers would be much lower.
Are there any estimates to what these numbers are?
Posted on 4/24/20 at 10:20 am to WaWaWeeWa
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All I’ve seen from other countries and New York
I don't think it makes sense to look at New York as a basis for the rest of the country
Posted on 4/24/20 at 10:20 am to SDVTiger
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Hes says 70k minimum now
If you look at the numbers and trends, that's not unreasonable
Posted on 4/24/20 at 10:21 am to cwill
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Wait, you mean to tell me if you exclude two states or just subtract a big chunk of actual deaths from the death count the number is lower than the 60k projection?
You should work in IR.
You mean to tell me you want to include two huge outliers in decision making that will affect 330 million people?
You should work in government.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 10:23 am to WaWaWeeWa
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You are embarrassing yourself. There are excess deaths. No amount of mis classification of deaths creates MORE DEATHS.
Say it 50 more times. Doesn't make it a fact. Shw some official data. Not a 3rd rate graph from a 4th rate Brittish tabloid.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 10:24 am to Powerman
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If you look at the numbers and trends, that's not unreasonable
Posted on 4/24/20 at 10:27 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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This is how the government advances its narrative...with money. Need more COViD-19 deaths to justify your draconian edicts, incentivize the reporting of deaths. It is the same as with Climate Change. Scientists that want federal grants need to push the man-made Climate Change narrative. States that want federal funding are coerced to agree with certain positions or laws.
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I would remind him that anytime health care intersects with dollars it gets awkward.
This is how the government advances its narrative...with money. Need more COViD-19 deaths to justify your draconian edicts, incentivize the reporting of deaths. It is the same as with Climate Change. Scientists that want federal grants need to push the man-made Climate Change narrative. States that want federal funding are coerced to agree with certain positions or laws.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 10:29 am to Powerman
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No chance of us coming in under that number at this point
It depends on How the deaths are counted.
If you count if someone has heart disease, obesity, diabetes, COPD, and also tests positive for Covid-19, and you count their death as Covid-19 then yes we will have 100k or so.
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