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re: White male liberals? Why? How?

Posted on 2/11/22 at 3:05 pm to
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 3:05 pm to
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So I'm a liberal for supporting the Second Amendment?

Are you reading deficient?

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I'm a liberal for demanding fiscal responsibility from my politicians?

The phrase fiscal responsibility is meaningless absent how you define it.

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I'm a liberal for wanting to keep the government out of my house, pants and bathrooms?

And yet, I'll bet you've had no problem with the tons of laws/ordinances passed FORCING businesses to behave in a certain manner in regards to bathrooms.

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I'm a liberal for having worked since I was 16 (40 years) including paying my way through LSU and graduating with no debt?

Woo hoo. You did it at the same time almost all of us your age did.

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I'm a liberal for believing that the problem with immigration is an economic one that requires an economic solution?

Another totally undefined platitude that means nothing absent specifics.

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Well, it was mentioned in the thread.

You oppose Republicans pretty my by default. I cannot recall you EVER supporting one in any race on this board or, for that matter, in general other than certain cherry picked issues.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 3:06 pm to
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This whole, "I'm independent" schtick is a new act of yours.

LOL

Proving that you happen to hold a couple of non-liberal positions doesn't rebut that at all.

Sheesh.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 3:34 pm to
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The phrase fiscal responsibility is meaningless absent how you define it.

I am against the Democrat's "Tax and Spend" policies just as much as I'm against the Republican's "Borrow and Spend" policies. We need to balance the budget and find a way to pay down the debt that doesn't involve inflating our way out. And we need to do this yesterday, before we dream up new ways to spend money we don't have.
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I'll bet you've had no problem with the tons of laws/ordinances passed FORCING businesses to behave in a certain manner in regards to bathrooms.

You'd lose the bet - except insofar that a business that serves beverages should be required to provide a restroom - or a least a patch of grass with a tree on it out back.
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You did it at the same time almost all of us your age did.

Almost no one I knew in school at LSU from 1983-1990 was working their way through as I was. Most were on combination scholarships, loans and parents.
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Another totally undefined platitude that means nothing absent specifics.

At the time it was a hot topic on this board, I wanted to see a full CBA of building the wall vs GDP gained from illegal workers. No one could ever provide it. I wanted to know how we knew it was cost-effective to build the wall, and all I ever got in return was to be called a commie liberal. No actual data. Par for the course.
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You oppose Republicans pretty [much] by default

On THIS board, yes. I'm not the sort to just want to sit around having my balls tickled agreeing with people. I don't find that interesting. The Democrats get enough shite on this board, I don't feel I have to pile on - although I have taken some shots at Biden. My liberal friends find it just as disconcerting when I attack their positions with economic principles. I wouldn't have to though, if they could just learn some simple arithmetic.

That said, I have responded in agreement to to some of your posts, and even pointed out that we probably agree 50% of the time. It embarrasses you, though, I suspect that's why you rarely respond, and why you're so virulent today.
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
48737 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 3:36 pm to
Not all of them are White some are Fellow Whites.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 3:38 pm to
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I cant speak for Liberals since i dont belong to any political party or affiliation.. I’m more of an ‘a la carte’ politics guy- i pick and choose which candidate/issue to vote for on a case-by case basis…. BUT if i were to guess why any white male would ever identify as a ‘Liberal’- it would probably be a reaction to NOT wanting to be affiliated with the typical khaki pants-wearing, golf club-toting, corny joke-making, fat, beer-belly, cant-get-laid losers on the religious Right…. and I totally get wanting to distance yourself as far away as possible from that .

bullshite, you're a flaming commie-arse liberal Democrat. That fence sitting shite don't play here.

- ShortangryRob
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 3:45 pm to
nvm
This post was edited on 2/11/22 at 3:55 pm
Posted by NOLAGurl
Member since Aug 2021
354 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 3:50 pm to
It's getting that way for white women as well. They started with white men but once they got through eviscerating them they moved on to their next target. Then it was all "white women's tears", endless diatribes about white women falsely accusing black men of rape and poor poor Emmett Till, white feminism, and then all the tranny stuff. 55% of white women voted for Trump in 2020.
Posted by Bastiat
The real world
Member since Jul 2018
4 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 3:59 pm to
Just look at her, she is just upset because no one ever wanted to give her some of that 'special protein'. Someone needs to step up and take one for the team to make her lighten up a little.
Posted by Sasquatch45
Earth
Member since Jul 2021
1881 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 4:10 pm to
That’s because they are trans-males
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
27291 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 4:28 pm to
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There is NOTHING POLITICAL about the above facts. It's biology on one hand and language on the other.


But the language, at least here in Western Nations, has held gender and sex as interchangeable terms.

Accepting the difference you've highlighted between sex and gender, what should be the standard for determining which restroom you go into, which sports team you join, etc.? Sex or gender?
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
27291 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 4:33 pm to
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Why do you assume I'm affiliated with the Democratic Party?


95% of the threads I see you in you're actively disagreeing with conservatives about the political happenings in America.

Considering 90+% of this board is conservative, where does that leave you?
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
29791 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 4:37 pm to
What this should tell you is that human beings are utterly pervious to brainwashing. We will buy ANYTHING if it's sold with the correct packaging. This is both literal and metaphorical.

So the question is: "How am I brain washed?"

No matter how directly or indirectly, we all live similarly enough and see things similarly enough. We are all susceptible.

That said? You are so fking right.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
54917 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 4:53 pm to
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have always associated the terms ‘Christian Conservative’ and ‘Relgious Right’ with repressed homosexuals… At least, most of the guys ive ever met who identified themselves that way seemed to be trying desperately to overcompensate for their feminine tendencies .



Maybe, homosexuality is definitely sinful behavior.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 5:01 pm to
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95% of the threads I see you in you're actively disagreeing with conservatives about the political happenings in America.

That's an interesting point. let's examine it.

To say "95% of the threads I see you in you're actively disagreeing" I believe is probably accurate. But what it does NOT say is that I disagree with 95% of the positions posted on the board - just that 95% of my few posts are generally in disagreement.

Let's look a little further:
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...with conservatives about the political happenings in America

They may call themselves "conservatives", but often I'm disagreeing with them when I think they're taking Big Government positions.

Take Shorty's obsession with what's going on in other people's pants, for example. I don't see the issue of sex and gender as being political. It's a matter of biology and largely language. I've said it before, but Ill reiterate:
Sex = male/female = biology. No amount of butchery is going to take a man's Y chromosome away from him, nor lend it to a woman. Men are men and women are women, and it's just a incontrovertible biological fact. It's not political.

Gender = masculine/feminine/neuter. These are cultural associations often associated with sex, but not necessarily directly. You can have a feminine male and a masculine female, and then there's Pat. I don't have a problem with this. However someone wants to dress is their own personal business, and I don't want the government peering into their pants to make any kind of distinction.

The whole gender thing to me looks like one of those liberal traps where they define the terms, and no one can win. frick that, I'm not letting the liberals define the terms, and I'm not letting the so-called conservatives make me care about what's happening in someone else's pants.

Take now the border wall. I generally try to avoid Big Government solutions and look for economic solutions. There exists a steep economic gradient across our southern border. I don't believe q physical barrier would be effective against such a strong economic problem. I would look for economic solutions before spending money we don't have on constructing a wall which may or may not work, or which may or may not even be cost-effective.

So I disagree. But I don't see my disagreement as being against "conservatives" and I don't see my disagreements rooted in liberalism.

What I don't care to do is sit around in a circle jerk. If I largely agree with a thread, I move on. If you'll notice, I don't actually comment on most threads - maybe 5%.
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where does that leave you?

So I disagree 95%, 5% of the time - and even then, my positions are generally for less government solutions, and lean more towards leave people the frick alone.

But since I don't want to play tickle-belly, I'm labelled a communist/liberal/Democrat.

The fact is that I agree with Shorty far more than I disagree with him, and that makes him uncomfortable. He wants to focus on those rare cases where he supports more government intervention, and since he identifies strongly as a conservative, he thinks that if I disagree I MUST be a liberal - or at least my position must be a liberal one.

Have a good weekend.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 5:17 pm to
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That said, I have responded in agreement to to some of your posts, and even pointed out that we probably agree 50% of the time. It embarrasses you, though, I suspect that's why you rarely respond, and why you're so virulent today.

I accept all agreement all the time on this board no matter who it comes from.. Hell I just High 5 Draconian sanctions earlier today which I am fairly certain means hell froze over
Posted by Bayou
Boudin, LA
Member since Feb 2005
42162 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 5:24 pm to
Why and How?

Over the last 50 or so years America's education systems were and are hi-jacked by Marxist fundamentals. In order to pass school you must adhere to that ideology. Students are completely unaware of the manipulation and simply swallow it.
Today we see the fruits being bore by this. It's an American implosion from within. If you can't see this you're just stupid.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 5:27 pm to
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Over the last 50 or so years America's education systems were and are hi-jacked by Marxist fundamentals. In order to pass school you must adhere to that ideology. Students are completely unaware of the manipulation and simply swallow it.
Today we see the fruits being bore by this. It's an American implosion from within. If you can't see this you're just stupid.
Why is this directed at me
Posted by Bayou
Boudin, LA
Member since Feb 2005
42162 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 6:21 pm to
It's not

OP asked why and how.
This post was edited on 2/11/22 at 6:23 pm
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
19588 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 6:24 pm to
People don't think Low-T be like it is, but it do.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33369 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 6:34 pm to
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Why do you assume I'm affiliated with the Democratic Party?


Someone had said you were. Are you not?
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