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Posted on 4/18/22 at 4:02 pm to
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
14166 posts
Posted on 4/18/22 at 4:02 pm to
I said SOME.

Op mentions gen 4 reactors, those are the ones that have the most promise but are still in development phases. The first gen 4 isnt expected until 2030’s.

The ones you mentioned are gen 3, which are still very much safer than earlier generations. There have been no meltdowns at 3rd gen reactors. All power plant meltdowns have been in earlier generations.
Posted by Deplorableinohio
Member since Dec 2018
7500 posts
Posted on 4/18/22 at 4:34 pm to
I don’t understand the downvote.

Everything I post re energy and the environment are factual.

If you want to take exception, bring it. You are dealing with an expert. And I’m being humble, just like the GEOTUS TRUMP.
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
23658 posts
Posted on 4/18/22 at 4:45 pm to
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3) Nuclear waste. Nuke plants don't take nearly as much matter to create energy as coal plants, but they do leave behind radioactive waste which needs to be stored for a long arse time. Yucca mountain would solve the problem for good, but politics got in the way (Harry Reid bitched). The GAO said Yucca mountain was shut down because of pure politics and not safety.


We use a metallurgy company for investigations of metal fatique/failure. A lof of oil & gas companies use the same one. Guy that owns it was heavily involved in certifying materials for nuclear plants years ago and still does work for them.

About 5 years ago he told me that Spacex was well funded through government contracts because the U.S. government is wanting to reliably send nuclear waste into space and to the sun for disposal. Thus the heavy support by the U.S. government for Spacex.

This is a no bullshite kind of guy. It makes sense on a lot of levels. Nuclear waste isn't just an environmental issue now it is national security, European security, etc...
Posted by Bayoutigre
29.9N 92.1W
Member since Feb 2007
5908 posts
Posted on 4/18/22 at 4:56 pm to
being on the grid will soon be a thing of the past,wireless energy,perpetual generators tons of technology has been suppressed from us
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
31024 posts
Posted on 4/18/22 at 5:09 pm to
Let me have this dammit!!!
Posted by rooster108bm
Member since Nov 2010
3180 posts
Posted on 4/18/22 at 5:37 pm to
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Nuke plants don't take nearly as much matter to create energy as coal plants, but they do leave behind radioactive waste which needs to be stored for a long arse time


The French have reprocessed their fuel for damn near 40 years. We don't and that's why we have so much waste.
Posted by rooster108bm
Member since Nov 2010
3180 posts
Posted on 4/18/22 at 5:44 pm to
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About 5 years ago he told me that Spacex was well funded through government contracts because the U.S. government is wanting to reliably send nuclear waste into space and to the sun for disposal. Thus the heavy support by the U.S. government for Spacex.

This is a no bullshite kind of guy. It makes sense on a lot of levels. Nuclear waste isn't just an environmental issue now it is national security, European security, etc...


This makes about as much sense as loading up the used oil from your car and sending it on a rocket to the sun. Will Elon let you pay him for that? Sure. Does it make any fricking sense whatsoever? frick no.
Posted by keks tadpole
Yellow Leaf Creek
Member since Feb 2017
8563 posts
Posted on 4/18/22 at 5:45 pm to
Why can't the same nuclear technology that the Navy uses to power it carriers and subs be applied to the civilian market?
Posted by slowmoe
Member since Mar 2022
600 posts
Posted on 4/18/22 at 5:45 pm to
Agree with everything you said. We keep electing sh-t for brains people.
Posted by rooster108bm
Member since Nov 2010
3180 posts
Posted on 4/18/22 at 5:51 pm to
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Why can't the same nuclear technology that the Navy uses to power it carriers and subs be applied to the civilian market?


What makes you think it isnt?
Posted by Von
Wichita Falls, TX
Member since Feb 2019
2665 posts
Posted on 4/18/22 at 6:09 pm to
Geothermal is another solution the climate whackos won't look at.
Fracking technology makes it cheap and easy.
If I remember right, federal regs make it not so cheap and easy. Same drilling method, different regs.
They don't want solutions.
Posted by Miketheseventh
Member since Dec 2017
6866 posts
Posted on 4/18/22 at 6:25 pm to
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One guy had to go to the bathroom. We had one escort. All five of us had to stop, put our tools in the cases, then follow him to the bathroom.

You were a visitor that needed to have an escort. That is exactly how it works. You can always follow all the requirements to get a I’d card where you don’t need an escort. Do all the tests and background checks and drug screens and you can avoid needing an escort. It’s good for one year before it needs to be renewed
Posted by FlyingTiger1955
Member since Jan 2019
5765 posts
Posted on 4/18/22 at 6:29 pm to
Three Mile Island put an end to nuclear power as a source of energy. There is no way to overcome that.
Posted by Blutarsky
112th Congress
Member since Jan 2004
11726 posts
Posted on 4/18/22 at 6:41 pm to
Chernobyl and TMI scared the shite out of the general public and the NRC’s heavy handed approach on new Nuclear plants drives their price into the multi-billions:
Posted by Blutarsky
112th Congress
Member since Jan 2004
11726 posts
Posted on 4/18/22 at 6:45 pm to
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What makes you think it isnt?


They standardized to a specific nuclear reactor for Carriers, Cruisers and Subs. I could go to any Nimitz class Carrier and go right to work with minimal onboarding because of it.

Commercial plants have different reactor types: BWRs and PWRs, and several different manufacturers.

A new design is on the horizon: SMRs, but it’s still pricey as frick.
This post was edited on 4/18/22 at 6:46 pm
Posted by GoIrish02
Member since Mar 2012
1491 posts
Posted on 4/18/22 at 7:16 pm to
Samsung - Floating Nuclear Plant

It already is, Samsung is building a floating power nuclear plant. Also, the US Navy recently commissioned 6 new nuclear subs for a total cost of ~$8 billion (pretty reasonable per unit cost).

Seems like the same idea in the Samsung design, just park the ship indefinitely shoreside and connect to transmission grid to meet baseline demand.
This post was edited on 4/18/22 at 7:18 pm
Posted by GoIrish02
Member since Mar 2012
1491 posts
Posted on 4/18/22 at 7:27 pm to
The single TMI unit (unit 2) with the meltdown shut down on 1979, some radioactive gas was released but no one was injured in the accident. The gas was never above background levels of radiation that exist naturally near the plant. You're exposed to more radiation when you fly on a plane or eat a banana.

The remaining adjacent unit 1 continued to operate unaffected for another 45 years and was just permanently shut down in September 2019.

Perception of the 'danger' of nuclear is not accurate but is the unfortunate reality.
This post was edited on 4/18/22 at 7:29 pm
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Member since Sep 2013
35417 posts
Posted on 4/18/22 at 7:29 pm to
They should just ship all of that waste shite out into space.
Posted by WhereisAtlanta
Member since Jun 2016
847 posts
Posted on 4/18/22 at 8:26 pm to
Pretty sure Southern Company is about to fire one up in GA, think it is in GA.
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
Member since Jan 2005
16919 posts
Posted on 4/18/22 at 8:27 pm to
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Gates and Buffett are building one in Wyoming.


See, the greenies/Dems are just trying to get their people in place to make money. Some guy was on Joe Rogan and kept including nuclear power in the green energy output. It is pretty clear it is a money grab.
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