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re: Why do Illegal Immigrants Get The Same Constitutional Rights As American Citizens?

Posted on 3/4/25 at 12:04 am to
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 3/4/25 at 12:04 am to
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Because the Constitution says that they do.
no it doesn't
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33788 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 2:17 am to
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AggieHank86

I understand that you are embarrassed by your lack of reading comprehension which caused you to post this in response to me saying illegals didnt have the constitutional right to an attorney, if they are only charged with a misdemeanor.
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Are you acting under the misconception that a US citizen is entitled to appointed counsel in a misdemeanor case

But did you have to double down om stupidity?

At what point in your post did you address falsely claiming that I thought US citizens arrested for a misdemeanor were entitled to an appointed lawyer. All you had to do was say, yeah, I misread that. But to then go on a screed about why its still only a misdemeanor Maybe you should have done a little research before being a dumbass again

So here we go:
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Entering the United States without being inspected and admitted, i.e., illegal entry, is a misdemeanor or can be a felony, depending on the circumstances. 8 U.S.C. § 1325.

So we can make it a felony, but we dont. And heres the icing on the cake
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The “Sensenbrenner bill,” would have made simply being undocumented in the United States a felony. Although passed by the House of Representatives, the bill was rejected by the Senate after massive street demonstrations around the nation and sharp criticism of the provision criminalizing undocumented presence. Senator Harry Reid (D-Nev) attacked the bill as “mak[ing] criminals out of and demoniz[ing] a lot of hard-working people who are just trying to provide for their families.”

The DIMs laid down for their voters. Thats why.

You rarely know what youre trying to talk about. Go back to posting on reddit
Posted by Neutral Underground
Member since Mar 2024
2925 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 2:30 am to
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They get due process


Thank you. That is a good explanation. I understand now.
Posted by Rip N Lip
Zambodia
Member since Jul 2019
7316 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 2:30 am to
While my guitar gently weeps

Posted by Neutral Underground
Member since Mar 2024
2925 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 2:34 am to
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Yoko Uno destroyed the Beatles.


The Beatles is one of my favorite bands. Listen to the lyrics of Revolution and tell me that they weren't Based.
This post was edited on 3/4/25 at 2:39 am
Posted by Rip N Lip
Zambodia
Member since Jul 2019
7316 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 2:59 am to
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The Beatles is one of my favorite bands. Listen to the lyrics of Revolution and tell me that they weren't Based.


The two Rogers more based than Beatles, who could never deliver live sound to the masses.



The other Roger is Mister Waters.
Posted by Rip N Lip
Zambodia
Member since Jul 2019
7316 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 3:03 am to
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Yoko Uno destroyed the Beatles.


Since you pulled this quote out of nowhere



Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
19829 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 6:01 am to
Because those rights were granted by God, not the government.

If our founders didn't recognize that, then the government could take them away.

Speaking of the Bill of Rights only.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
31141 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 6:12 am to
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I have exactly ZERO doubt that I understand the Constitution FAR better than you do.


There's a reason USSC votes usually go down the political line. People "understand" things how they want to "understand" things.. and that's primarily based on your political affiliation.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
31141 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 6:14 am to
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They dont get the right to attorney, unless charged with a felony


So they do have the right to an attorney....?


Just messing around this morning... bored.

This post was edited on 3/4/25 at 6:17 am
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 6:24 am to
I've never seen a better example than this thread of how stupid some people really are.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471460 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 6:40 am to
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Illegal immigration to America is a relatively new phenomenon.

The founders never envisioned bordering a third world country with 130 million people.

If they knew that there would be a time in the future where people were crossing the border illegally, they would have written the constitution differently.

You started off strong but had a whimper by the end.

"Illegal immigration" is a relatively new phenomenon because it was just invented about 100 years ago, by Congress.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471460 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 6:42 am to
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. Unless I missed it, the older, more original parts of the constitution don't grant rights to illegal aliens

Incorrect.

The 4th, 5th, and 6th Amendments all apply to anyone on our soil. Its not just the 14th and its progeny.
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
2107 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 6:51 am to
They do not get the same rights as Americans.
The government cannot deport a citizen, for example.
Everyone in the country has the same rights prior to an adjudication of illegal status though.
Does anyone think that is bad? Otherwise there are no safeguards stopping the government from just declaring whoever they wanted, political enemies for example, as an illegal and doing whatever they wanted to them.
Posted by faraway
Member since Nov 2022
3667 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 8:01 am to
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I have exactly ZERO doubt that I understand the Constitution FAR better than you do.
that's bc you're brainwashed tard. you're never in doubt but still usually wrong.
Posted by TigerSprings
Southeast LA
Member since Jan 2019
2400 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 8:19 am to
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Does it actually say that? Like in black and white?

Or did someone interpret a passage in it that way?


The Declaration of Independence, strongly suggests that they do. But the D of I is not legally binding. Amendments 1 through 8 should apply to all humanity.
Posted by Jenstu
Member since May 2023
18 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 9:56 am to
where?
Posted by Broken Arrow
Member since Dec 2007
8284 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 2:56 pm to
Lib, you can go frick your self with your daddy’s sandpaper dildo. We are in charge now and don’t care about you or your opinions. You had your chance the last four years and did nothing but lie, steal and cover it up. If you had any education, any at all, you’d know that illegal immigrants aren’t given the same rights as citizens. Hence the term “illegal”. It appears that too many dicks to the face messed up your ability to learn or you would have gotten this info in seventh grade civics. Also in case you haven’t heard, there are only two genders. #justblewyourfeeblemind
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 4:48 pm to
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Is it time to amend the Constitution?

No.




Trump has you morons ready to amend the Constitution. Next up..."we don't need that First Amendment, and might as well get rid of the Second while we're in there."
This post was edited on 3/4/25 at 4:49 pm
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
22345 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 5:01 pm to
Eat another dick faggiehank.
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