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re: Why Does This Board Support Israel/Zionism?
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:03 pm to the808bass
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:03 pm to the808bass
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So a Palestinian is? What?
A figment of Burt's imagination, or a Unicorn Fart
This post was edited on 7/24/14 at 9:05 pm
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Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:04 pm to trackfan
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Wrong! Jews all over the world, are given full Israeli citizenship the second they land at Ben Gurion Airport.
Exactly, so a Palestinian can never visit his own country but some Jew from America gets a free ride to see israel and full citizenship. I wonder what the Zionist retort will be? "But but but they're hiding behind children out thar. I dun seen it on the Fox News"
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:05 pm to trackfan
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I appreciate your candor, but I'm sure you're aware of the fact that you're in agreement with Nazis on this issue.
I just have to say that is a tired tactic played by a pathetic individual and is why I have no respect for you.
I also don't think people should smoke in public. That was a nazi idea. You still confuse the main issue most people have with the nazi in order to force Israel into you shitty comparison. If you can't see the difference between the Jews in Israel and the Nazis in Germany then you are either stupid or willfully ignorant.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:05 pm to Burt Reynolds
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So it's justified to strip the undesirables of all of their rights, colonize all of their land, force them to live in ghettos (an apartheid society), then kill hundreds of innocent civilians when they decide to rebel. Sounds justified all right.
Obviously I don't agree with Sammy, but unlike most others on this board, ay least he's honest enough to state what he stands for rather than obfuscate and dissemble.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:08 pm to SammyTiger
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I just have to say that is a tired tactic played by a pathetic individual and is why I have no respect for you.
You're mad at me for using your own words against you in which you stated that ethnic cleansing is morally justifiable? That's rich! For a minute there I was starting to gain a little respect for you.
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If you can't see the difference between the Jews in Israel and the Nazis in Germany then you are either stupid or willfully ignorant.
You're in denial. Both Likud Israelis and Nazi Germans believe{d) in ethnic cleansing, the only difference is the method, bigot.
This post was edited on 7/24/14 at 9:11 pm
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:10 pm to SammyTiger
He made an inaccurate comparison but will you agree that Gaza resembles the Warsaw ghetto?
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:11 pm to Burt Reynolds
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So it's justified to strip the undesirables of all of their rights, colonize all of their land, force them to live in ghettos (an apartheid society), then kill hundreds of innocent civilians when they decide to rebel. Sounds justified all right.
1. They definitely had a chance just to live in peace with Israel but you can continue to ignore all their chance at that.
2. Jewish settlers helped make the land worth living in and lived peacefully with their neighbors till the 1920s when the Arabs had anti Jew revolts
3. There "rebellion" consists of launching missiles at civilians in Israel. Israel is protecting it's citizens. There can be no peace with Hamas in power because no country will give autonomy over to a terrorist organization.
4. I guess I forgot the part where the people in the Warsaw ghetto started firing rockets at the polish civilians from their families' living rooms.
This post was edited on 7/24/14 at 9:15 pm
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:14 pm to Burt Reynolds
A Palestinian is an Arab who is derived from the area west of the Jordan river to the Mediterranean sea, south of Lebanon and north of the Egypt/Gaza border. An Arab living in the West Bank is not a "Jordanian" or a Kuwaiti, those are different geographical areas. Those who live in Israel are the 1.6 million Israeli Arabs, full citizens. Those in the West Bank (1.8mil) and Gaza (1.6mil) are then "Palestinians", also East Jerusalem.
A definition good enough for the immature goofs on this board I hope.
A definition good enough for the immature goofs on this board I hope.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:14 pm to trackfan
You're a fundamentally intellectually dishonest poster. You make statements and implications which are wholly unsupportable and then pretend you don't see responses when someone points out your meanderings.
Sammy was specifically addressing laws regarding travel. Not ethnic cleansing. Conflating two wholly separate issues to call someone a Nazi is exactly the kind of tomfoolery we expect from you. You were beginning to respect him? No one GAF who you respect.
Sammy was specifically addressing laws regarding travel. Not ethnic cleansing. Conflating two wholly separate issues to call someone a Nazi is exactly the kind of tomfoolery we expect from you. You were beginning to respect him? No one GAF who you respect.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:16 pm to rtts48
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who is derived from
Good effort.
If an "Arab" moves from Israel to Gaza, would they become a Palestinian? IOW, are those inhabiting Gaza and the West Bank only people who "derived from" there?
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:18 pm to Burt Reynolds
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He made an inaccurate comparison but will you agree that Gaza resembles the Warsaw ghetto?
Is there any denying the fact that Likud wants the land from the Jordan to the Mediterranean to be Gentile-free every bit as much as the Nazis wanted Germany to be Judenfrei.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:24 pm to SammyTiger
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1. They definitely had a chance just to live in peace with Israel but you can continue to ignore all their chance at that.
I'm not ignoring it. It's the largest Zionist talking point. They live in peace and then what? Israel still occupies them. There are still checkpoints. They aren't allowed to leave. They are prisoners. Peaceful but not "free" by any definition.
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2. Jewish settlers helped make the land worth living in and lived peacefully with their neighbors till the 1920s when the Arabs had anti Jew revolts
The Jews and muslims have lived together for centuries and centuries. It seems to be working out well in Morocco and some other countries. If fatah were in control of Israel, I guarantee it would not be apartheid.
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3. There "rebellion" consists of launching missiles at civilians in Israel. Israel is protecting it's citizens. There can be no peace with Hamas in power because no country will give autonomy over to a terrorist organization.
Please define terrorist organization for me in your response. The IDF are also terrorists. Also why not hand power to the West Bank? Gaza is a lost cause.
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4. I guess I forgot the part where the people in the Warsaw ghetto started firing rockets at the polish civilians from their families' living rooms.
They didn't have that technology but they had guns and rebelled. Are the Warsaw Jews terrorists as well. Please by all means define terrorism for me.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:26 pm to trackfan
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Is there any denying the fact that Likud wants the land from the Jordan to the Mediterranean to be Gentile-free every bit as much as the Nazis wanted Germany to be Judenfrei.
Ovadia Yosef definitely wanted it. Radical Judaism is just as powerful or more powerful than radical Islam especially when you truly believe you are the one and only "gods" chosen people.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:28 pm to Burt Reynolds
Is the split on this topic - Liberals support Palestine and Conservatives support Israel?
After watching 10min of MSNBC and 10min of Fox - that seems to be the case.
I understand why conservatives support Israel, but I do not understand why Liberals support Palestine. Maybe someone can put it in context why it splits across party lines.
After watching 10min of MSNBC and 10min of Fox - that seems to be the case.
I understand why conservatives support Israel, but I do not understand why Liberals support Palestine. Maybe someone can put it in context why it splits across party lines.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:29 pm to the808bass
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If an "Arab" moves from Israel to Gaza, would they become a Palestinian? IOW, are those inhabiting Gaza and the West Bank only people who "derived from" there?
if he gives up his Israeli citizenship then yes. Just as if you move from the US to France you are still an American until you trade passports.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:31 pm to AUX3
its a little blurrier than that here. seen conservatives thrash israel and liberals say "dont start shite wont be shite" in relation to the palestinians
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:32 pm to Burt Reynolds
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If fatah were in control of Israel, I guarantee it would not be apartheid.
You probably have as shitty a definition of apartheid as you do of Palestinian.
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The Jews and muslims have lived together for centuries and centuries. It seems to be working out well in Morocco and some other countries.
There's more probably more Jews in Nashville, TN than in Morocco.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:34 pm to AUX3
I'm a conservative (libertarian)
Supporting Israel financially is a liberal big government idea.
Supporting Israel financially is a liberal big government idea.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:36 pm to UL-SabanRival
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Lemme guess. It's something hateful and offensive. Those ingrates. After all the Israelis have done for them.
It's not just Israelis. Anyone selling land to anyone from outside the areas is considered to be guilty of high treason and could be sentenced to death (although that hasn't happened in the past couple of years).
By contrast, foreigners can "lease" land (in 49 or 98 year intervals) in Israel but only if they plan to immigrate.
Let's see... death penalty vs. "only if you are willing to immigrate". I know which I would pick.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:37 pm to rtts48
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if he gives up his Israeli citizenship then yes.
So it is not determined by where one is born.
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