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re: Why Does This Board Support Israel/Zionism?
Posted on 7/25/14 at 2:47 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
Posted on 7/25/14 at 2:47 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
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Are you asserting there are no supporters or groups linked to Fatah left in Gaza? Are you claiming Al Aqsa is not linked to Fatah?
Shin Bet is partnered with Fatah/PLO/PA, so my your logic, the Israeli secret policy are part of the rocket attacks on Israel.
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 2:47 pm to the808bass
quote:This is only a contradiction if you assume that Netanyahu wants a peace process.
Another double minded man. You claimed Israel was too stupid to allow another election in Gaza which could've returned Fatah to power and greatly aided the process. You then claim that Israel is well aware of the benefit of Fatah in power and prefers them. Dance, sucker, dance.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 9:38 pm to SuperSaint
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Posted by Message SuperSaint Why Does This Board Support Israel/Zionism? You need to put more blame on Hamas. I feel sorry for the civilians but it's the people they are letting rule and support. The tunnels aren't there for palistenians to escape to "freedom" it's to bring terror to isreal plan and simple. Can't blame the IDF for going in and eliminating these tunnels.
The tunnels are primarily for food , water and medicine. Gaza has been isolated completely since years, nothing goes in or out. The tunnels are the only option. The people will starve once they are gone unless israel, Red Cross or a humanitarian provides.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 9:40 pm to Iosh
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The people aren't "letting" Hamas do anything. They have no way of putting anyone else back in power, because after Fatah were expelled Israel blockaded the Gaza strip and nobody was allowed in or out. Who are they going to elect? In what elections? Hamas won in January 2006 and Palestine is supposed to have elections every four years. Gaza is doubly overdue at this point, but haven't been able to hold any due to the civil war, blockade, and biennial Israeli offensives. The unity deal guaranteed new elections within six months, and Hamas was deeply unpopular due corruption and Gaza's bad economy. There was every chance the unity elections put Fatah back in power in both parts of Palestine, and all Israel had to do was wait six months.
Finally someone that knows what they're talking about.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 9:48 pm to the808bass
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It is interesting to note that you say a rocket attack cannot come from Fatah because Fatah does not control Gaza. But then you will claim that Hamas, even though it does control Gaza, is not responsible for attacks from Gaza. It is this type of thinking which clearly demonstrates you are not Western in origin.
Mother of god.
Fatah hasn't launched any rockets. They're throwing firecrackers at soldiers on the West Bank and protesting the genocide taking place in Gaza right now. It's absolutely sad and despicable that people like you are defending Israel's war crimes.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 10:27 pm to Iosh
Iosh, a lot of these fools would do themselves a lot of good is they listened to what you're preaching.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 10:40 pm to Burt Reynolds
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Fatah hasn't launched any rockets. They're throwing firecrackers at soldiers on the West Bank and protesting the genocide taking place in Gaza right now. It's absolutely sad and despicable that people like you are defending Israel's war crimes.
I'm not defending anything. I'm happily pointing out the complete double standards and silly logic each and every Pali-lover on here has exhibited.
Al Aqsa is an official Fatah associated group. Al Aqsa launched rockets into Israel, per their claims, in the last month. It's on Fatah's official Facebook page, you dolt. That's the facts.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 10:42 pm to Jbird
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Why did peace loving Hamas decline Kerry's cease fire proposal?
Because there's been a blockade around their state since 2006. It would be like the Jews in Warsaw giving in and marching to auchwitz. At least Hamas is putting up a fight.
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Here is another peace lover from that saintly organization known as Hezbollah. “True, we are fighting in Syria, but our heart yearns to arrive and fight the sons and brothers of the apes and pigs [the Jews],” the institute reported Al-Maqdisi as saying. The jihadi cleric said Gazans must be patient and wait for either victory or martyrdom, and that Allah will soon send “extraordinary soldiers who will fight and defeat the Jews.”
This is irrelevant to the matter at hand. Go back to your copy and paste threads jbird
This post was edited on 7/25/14 at 10:43 pm
Posted on 7/25/14 at 10:44 pm to Burt Reynolds
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This is irrelevant to the matter at hand.
And I'm sure you'll defend their terrorist asses, too, when it becomes relevant.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 10:46 pm to the808bass
Not a Pali lover. Simply a sympathizer.
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Double standards
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Al Aqsa is an official Fatah associated group. Al Aqsa launched rockets into Israel, per their claims, in the last month. It's on Fatah's official Facebook page, you dolt. That's the facts.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 10:48 pm to Burt Reynolds
I take your emoticons to be both an attempt at a refutation and an acquiescence that you are once again wrong.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 10:52 pm to the808bass
quote:Your idea of "pointing out silly logic" is taking posts where I point out silly logic on the part of Israel and assuming that they would not possibly do something so belligerent and/or stupid.
I'm happily pointing out the complete double standards and silly logic each and every Pali-lover on here has exhibited.
In logic, that's called begging the question.
This post was edited on 7/25/14 at 10:55 pm
Posted on 7/25/14 at 10:54 pm to Iosh
In fairness, your posts are pretty level-headed, though you and I start from different places.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:00 pm to the808bass
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Wrong
You forgot to provide a link for your "facts"
Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:05 pm to Burt Reynolds
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Burt Reynolds
You forgot to provide a link for your "facts"
So did you
Tunnels for food and water only with no bad intent
Throwing firecrackers at soldiers
No rocket attacks by Hamas
Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:07 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
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The funny thing is that the Jewish posters on the Poli Board (2 or 3 maybe) don't really give a crap what everyone thinks of us.
That's good, because anyone who cares what folks here them of them has serious mental issues.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:10 pm to Burt Reynolds
quote:quote:Because there's been a blockade around their state since 2006. It would be like the Jews in Warsaw giving in and marching to auchwitz. At least Hamas is putting up a fight.
Why did peace loving Hamas decline Kerry's cease fire proposal?
Exactly! Even a quisling wouldn't accept what Israel has put on the table. On the other hand, why hasn't Israel accepted Hamas' truce proposal?
Posted on 7/26/14 at 4:58 am to Burt Reynolds
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Link? Israel was never going to recognize an independent Palestinian nation
When the UN was dishing out land they were
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It's pretty obvious that israel has been targeting civilians. The majority of the people killed have been civilians, at least 600. It's fairly obvious that IDF is a terrorist organization.I think you're a little biased because you're a Jew no offense.
You know why this is. They are doing what they have to to protect their citizens and Hamas is doing everything to insure that entails high civilians casualties.
Terrorists don't call your house before they blow it up
Terrorist don't drop
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Of course because they were polish and were fighting their occupiers, the Germans, just like the gazans. "Tarnish". Don't play the victim card Sammy. Just because you're Jewish doesn't mean that the holocaust justifies the 600 innocent civilians killed in Gaza. The victim card is getting old.
This isn't an answer. Were the Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising targeting civilians or not? The answer is no. So to compare Hamas to them is wrong.
I don't kneed to play the victim card to justify what Israel is doing, because it is what every nation would do in their situation. I know this to be true, and I think you do to.
What i will do is call out shitty comparisons when they don't fit.
Hamas targets civilians. The Warsaw Ghetto Uprising did not. So they aren't comparable.
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