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Posted on 7/26/14 at 1:29 pm to
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 7/26/14 at 1:29 pm to
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English. Get better at it and stuff.


It took 19 pages until our first grammar BOOM.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78902 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 1:34 pm to
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Desperate name calling. So typical of a crusader. Provide a link to back this up then. Palestine signed the agreement. What the frick are you talking about?


We can't have a conversation if you don't know the basic facts about this conflict. I am not going to link every single thing because you are too ignorant to have done any research.
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It's simple math Sammy. Israel has killed hundreds of civilians and Hamas hasn't. The answer is pretty obvious. The US would keep giving Israel money. Since when does the Us govt do the right thing?


How many Israelis should Israel let Hamas kill to justify stoppingn them? Should they give them a while to get a head start? You are faulting the Israelis for being better at protecting their people.

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You show a lack of links and evidence. LINK


Do you want evidence that the Jews in Warsaw ghetto didn't kill civilians? Or that the conditions were worse? But I'm on my phone so you're not getti
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You are really struggling with the links concept hunh


This is just common knowledge the Palestinians have been using terror for years and things aren't getting better.

I'm on a phone so you're not getting links. Most of this stuff is basic historical knowledge and if you need a link to learn about the 1948 Arab-Israeli war then we shouldn't be having this conversation because you're too ignorant on the subject.
Posted by fleaux
section 0
Member since Aug 2012
8741 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 1:37 pm to
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It took 19 pages until our first grammar BOOM.


on the same page you corrected someone for using "insure" instead of "ensure" when you know good and well it could have been autocorrected.....
Posted by darkhorse
Member since Aug 2012
7701 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 1:54 pm to
Notice how he stays away for real facts and will only spew hate for Jewish people and Israel?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127331 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 2:10 pm to
That wasn't a grammar comment. It was comment on the actual meaning of the words. You either don't understand English or you're a petty obfuscator. I don't rule out the possibility you are both.
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 2:18 pm to
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It's simple math Sammy. Israel has killed hundreds of civilians and Hamas hasn't.
Do you apply the same standard to the United States use of its military? When wars are fought on the other side's territory, you take very few civilian casualties. Civilians get killed when they are close to the combatants or key military targets. Key military targets can be things like bridges, power plants, radio and television broadcast facilities as well as actual military installations and fighting positions. How many Iraqis and Afghanis do you think the U.S. killed who happened to be in or near such targets that were nowhere near actual ground fighting? The majority of the civilians killed by the Israelis have been in close proximity to the ground fighting.

It sucks to live where the fighting is occurring because you can easily find yourself too close to legitimate targets or victim to errant strikes. But what should you expect when your leaders decide to go to war? You have to take into consideration the possibilities of all outcomes. And the outcome of Israel using high explosives in urban areas was an almost certain outcome once hostilities commenced in Gaza.
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
24303 posts
Posted on 7/27/14 at 4:22 am to
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Do you apply the same standard to the United States use of its military?

Yes.
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
24303 posts
Posted on 7/27/14 at 4:24 am to
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Sammynolinksbiasedtiger


Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
24303 posts
Posted on 7/27/14 at 5:06 am to
Hamas didn't kidnap and kill the three Israeli children

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When the bodies of three Israeli teenagers, kidnapped in the West Bank, were found late last month, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu did not mince words. "Hamas is responsible, and Hamas will pay," he said, initiating a campaign that eventually escalated into the present conflict in the region. But now, officials admit the kidnappings were not Hamas's handiwork after all.


And the plot thickens
This post was edited on 7/27/14 at 5:08 am
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92903 posts
Posted on 7/27/14 at 5:28 am to
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15 were killed today in a United Nations school with NO weapons. What's the reasoning behind supporting an artificial apartheid country that is killing innocent civilians as we speak. How can you support a country that spies on us, destroyed one of our naval ships, and sells our weapons to other countries. They haven't signed the nuclear non proliferation act. They violated the Geneva convention by imposing collective punishment on entire towns, villages, and camps, for the acts of a few, and even goes as far as demolishing entire villages while people are still in their homes. It has seized the sovereign territory of other nations by military force and continues to occupy it in defiance of United Nations Security Council resolutions. Israel routinely violates the international borders of another sovereign state with warplanes and artillery and naval gunfire.

They denied any official connection to Pollard, then voted to make him a citizen and has continuously demanded that the American president grant Pollard a full pardon. Israel also allows American Jewish murderers to flee to its country to escape punishment in the United States and refuses to extradite them once in their custody. This country preaches against hate yet builds a shrine and a memorial for a murderer which killed 29 Palestinians while they prayed in their Mosque.

They deliberately targeted a civilian U.N. Refugee Camp in Qana , Lebanon and killed 103 innocent men, women, and especially children. They signed the Oslo Accords promising to halt any new Jewish Settlement construction, but instead, has built more than 270 new settlements since the signing. Israel has assassinated more than 100 political officials of its opponent in recent years while killing hundreds of civilians in the process, including dozens of children. If you support israel and Zionism, you support terrorism, violence, oppression, imperialism, and tyranny among other things.


Our government does all of this and more. I support Israel because without the Jewish financiers the US economy would crumble. They back us because our military protects them, its a win-win. Who really cares if a few people have to die in order to maintain the VERY high quality of life we have in the US?
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92903 posts
Posted on 7/27/14 at 5:30 am to
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But now, officials admit the kidnappings were not Hamas's handiwork after all.




What officials? Palestinian officials? WTF do you think they are gonna say?
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
24303 posts
Posted on 7/27/14 at 5:53 am to
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
24303 posts
Posted on 7/27/14 at 5:57 am to
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Our government does all of this and more. I support Israel because without the Jewish financiers the US economy would crumble. They back us because our military protects them, its a win-win. Who really cares if a few people have to die in order to maintain the VERY high quality of life we have in the US?


Interesting point. The Israeli lobby groups are lining the congressmen's pockets. Not sure how that helps our standard of living when Israel receives $11 million per day from the USA. At least you admit you don't care about the deaths and support the USA federal govt.
This post was edited on 7/27/14 at 5:58 am
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92903 posts
Posted on 7/27/14 at 6:15 am to
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Israeli Police Actually




Ummmm he says they were members of Hamas!
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92903 posts
Posted on 7/27/14 at 6:20 am to
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Interesting point. The Israeli lobby groups are lining the congressmen's pockets. Not sure how that helps our standard of living when Israel receives $11 million per day from the USA. At least you admit you don't care about the deaths and support the USA federal govt.



It helps our standard of living because the Jewish bankers make sure the dollar is strong as long as we support them, and part of that support is allowing them to kill a few people. I don't support the US government, I support US citizens maintaining a high quality of life.
Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
19140 posts
Posted on 7/27/14 at 6:20 am to
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Our government does all of this and more. I support Israel because without the Jewish financiers the US economy would crumble. They back us because our military protects them, its a win-win. Who really cares if a few people have to die in order to maintain the VERY high quality of life we have in the US?

First of all, this statement has only a grain of truth to it. Not all financiers are Jewish and if they were, what difference would it make?

Secondly, why does our country need anyone to charge us interest on our own money? Wouldn't it be better to just nationalize the Fed?
This post was edited on 7/27/14 at 6:23 am
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
24303 posts
Posted on 7/27/14 at 6:22 am to
Mickey Rosenfeld is the name of the Israeli police officer that stated this

Google Mickey Rosenfeld
This post was edited on 7/27/14 at 6:23 am
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92903 posts
Posted on 7/27/14 at 6:23 am to
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Not all financiers are Jewish and if they were, what difference would it make?


The ones that matter are and it makes a difference because we are talking about Israel, duh!

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Secondly, why does our country need anyone to charge us interest on our own money? Wouldn't it be better to just Nationalize the Fed?



We don't need them to but if we don't do it they will allow the US dollar to collapse.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92903 posts
Posted on 7/27/14 at 6:27 am to
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responsibility lies with a lone cell that operated without the complicity of Hamas’ leadership.



Dude they are members of Hamas, they just allegedly didn't run it by Hamas leadership before they did it. If some Al-Qaeda members attacked the US, but allegedly didn't have approval from Al-Qaeda leadership, who would you say attacked us?

Your statement that "Hamas didn't kidnap and kill the three Israeli children" is kinda BS since the guys who did it were in fact members of Hamas and everyone admits it.
Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
19140 posts
Posted on 7/27/14 at 6:35 am to
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We don't need them to but if we don't do it they will allow the US dollar to collapse.

No it wouldn't. The U.S. government would regain control over something the U.S. government should be controlling.
This post was edited on 7/27/14 at 6:37 am
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