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Posted on 10/7/22 at 6:07 pm to TomBuchanan
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Peace doesn't pay the bills
I agree. But neither does global extinction
Posted on 10/7/22 at 6:08 pm to Harpo67
Neither side is willing to negotiate
Posted on 10/7/22 at 6:09 pm to Harpo67
Too much money in it. Also the globalists' just happen to want the population reduced.
Posted on 10/7/22 at 6:10 pm to Harpo67
Progs are the only ones who protest and they are all for it. Everyone else has jobs.
When conservatives do protest, the gov calls it an insurrection.
When conservatives do protest, the gov calls it an insurrection.
This post was edited on 10/7/22 at 6:13 pm
Posted on 10/7/22 at 6:11 pm to Harpo67
Damn. Yeah they say only cockroaches would survive, so I guess we’ll be back in the saddle in about 5ish million years from some point in the next couple three weeks when this whole armageddon thing goes down, after having evolved from roaches. Should be pretty interesting.
This post was edited on 10/7/22 at 6:13 pm
Posted on 10/7/22 at 6:12 pm to Harpo67
First, how do you know nobody is looking for a peaceful solution? These types of negotiations are done behind closed doors.
Secondly, there will be no nuclear war on any scale larger than small tactical weapons to win a battlefield, which have yields that are about equal to other, large explosive weapons (ie: "daisy cutters")
Putin or any other leader would be signing their death warrant if they ever used a strategic nuclear weapon. If there is one thing that leaders like Putin require, it is their own self-preservation and the preservation of their wealth. Both of those would end immediately.
Secondly, there will be no nuclear war on any scale larger than small tactical weapons to win a battlefield, which have yields that are about equal to other, large explosive weapons (ie: "daisy cutters")
Putin or any other leader would be signing their death warrant if they ever used a strategic nuclear weapon. If there is one thing that leaders like Putin require, it is their own self-preservation and the preservation of their wealth. Both of those would end immediately.
Posted on 10/7/22 at 6:17 pm to nealnan8
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Posted on 10/7/22 at 6:23 pm to Harpo67
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First, how do you know nobody is looking for a peaceful solution? These types of negotiations are done behind closed doors.
If they were looking for peace it would be front and center. The things that are negotiated behind closed doors are prisoner exchanges, but these people didn’t do that either
Posted on 10/7/22 at 6:30 pm to Gifman
We need the adults to stand up and find a peaceful solution to this or we are headed for nuclear war.
You don't have to like Putin or Russia but you will respect them as they are still a very formidable power.
Have a sit down and have a talk with Russia. Ask them what do want from this invasion of Ukraine? Is this something we have done in the past from prior presidential administrations?
You don't have to like Putin or Russia but you will respect them as they are still a very formidable power.
Have a sit down and have a talk with Russia. Ask them what do want from this invasion of Ukraine? Is this something we have done in the past from prior presidential administrations?
Posted on 10/7/22 at 6:31 pm to Harpo67
Even if such leaders exist, it would still be easier said than done.
Particularly when some of the resentments that still exist among the combatants are embedded in their histories and go all the way back to Brest-Litovsk, when Russia had to give up so much of their "possessions" to end their involvement in the First World War.
When they had to give up countries that included Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Belarus, Ukraine.
Poland wasn't a part of the negotiations because at that time it was in the possession of the White Russian Mensheviks - not the Black Russian Bolsheviks.
The Russian Czar Nicholas was forced to abdicate, and meanwhile forces that have yet to be identified, but included the Germans, assisted Lenin and his hardcore fellow-travelers from his exile in Switzerland by means of a "sealed" train (the Peace Train), which didn't have to stop at any border crossings and be boarded for inspection on its journey.
That curious event transported Lenin and his hardcore fellow-travelers into an Orthodox Christian nation where they later took over the provisional government, and the world hasn't been the same since.
Lenin agreed to ending Russia's involvement, with Trotsky as his Foreign Minister.
Putin obviously hoards more than a few resentments and still draws from much of that.
Doesn't his biography include him being a "student of Lenin?" Or is that globalist propaganda.
Plus he lived through the added embarrassment of losing those soviet "republics."
So Russia lost some of their "prized possessions" twice.
Deep resentments there - mostly with Putin.
Dare say most of the Russian populace just want to live their lives out in what ever tranquility can be realized in that country.
Particularly when some of the resentments that still exist among the combatants are embedded in their histories and go all the way back to Brest-Litovsk, when Russia had to give up so much of their "possessions" to end their involvement in the First World War.
When they had to give up countries that included Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Belarus, Ukraine.
Poland wasn't a part of the negotiations because at that time it was in the possession of the White Russian Mensheviks - not the Black Russian Bolsheviks.
The Russian Czar Nicholas was forced to abdicate, and meanwhile forces that have yet to be identified, but included the Germans, assisted Lenin and his hardcore fellow-travelers from his exile in Switzerland by means of a "sealed" train (the Peace Train), which didn't have to stop at any border crossings and be boarded for inspection on its journey.
That curious event transported Lenin and his hardcore fellow-travelers into an Orthodox Christian nation where they later took over the provisional government, and the world hasn't been the same since.
Lenin agreed to ending Russia's involvement, with Trotsky as his Foreign Minister.
Putin obviously hoards more than a few resentments and still draws from much of that.
Doesn't his biography include him being a "student of Lenin?" Or is that globalist propaganda.
Plus he lived through the added embarrassment of losing those soviet "republics."
So Russia lost some of their "prized possessions" twice.
Deep resentments there - mostly with Putin.
Dare say most of the Russian populace just want to live their lives out in what ever tranquility can be realized in that country.
Posted on 10/7/22 at 6:32 pm to nealnan8
If this conflict in Ukraine doesn't end then yes it will be headed for nuclear war.
Posted on 10/7/22 at 6:32 pm to dchog
Nuland/Kagan/Kagan/Frum/Kristol dream of breaking Russia, even if means every Ukrainian dies.
Posted on 10/7/22 at 6:34 pm to dchog
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Is this something we have done in the past from prior presidential administrations?
Seemed cut and dried, no NATO on their border. I might be wrong, but Putin wants a buffer between Russia and NATO.
Posted on 10/7/22 at 6:55 pm to TrueTiger
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There is one.
Elon Musk.
Trump is as well, which even Noam fricking Chomsky gave him credit for.
Posted on 10/7/22 at 6:58 pm to Harpo67
Russia and Ukraine are blood enemies. It's like a gigantic mafia war.
They will both be bled dry for them to talk.
They will both be bled dry for them to talk.
Posted on 10/7/22 at 7:07 pm to Harpo67
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Seemed cut and dried, no NATO on their border. I might be wrong, but Putin wants a buffer between Russia and NATO.
If he could read a map, he'd know better.
Russia has had direct borders with 4 NATO members for *18* years.
Posted on 10/7/22 at 7:08 pm to Harpo67
$$$$$
Posted on 10/7/22 at 7:08 pm to dchog
"If this conflict in Ukraine doesn't end then yes it will be headed for nuclear war."
Define what you mean by nuclear war.
If you mean the US and Russian launching ICBMs at each, this will not happen. If you include small tactical nukes to prevent Ukrainian forces from entering Russian territory, then maybe.
Look, Putin will probably be deposed by his own military or a high ranking Russian official (with CIA help) before any of this happens. Or just a plain old assassination.
Define what you mean by nuclear war.
If you mean the US and Russian launching ICBMs at each, this will not happen. If you include small tactical nukes to prevent Ukrainian forces from entering Russian territory, then maybe.
Look, Putin will probably be deposed by his own military or a high ranking Russian official (with CIA help) before any of this happens. Or just a plain old assassination.
Posted on 10/7/22 at 7:09 pm to TGFN57
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Russia and Ukraine are blood enemies. It's like a gigantic mafia war. They will both be bled dry for them to talk.
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