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re: Why is the virus not spreading in China?

Posted on 3/20/20 at 3:43 pm to
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 3/20/20 at 3:43 pm to
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My wife is Chinese and has been getting info from a wealthy Chinese businessman (Chinese language) in NYC that has good contacts with officials in Beijing. He has said the number is between 500,000 and 1.5 million dead, but some of those are from starvation and not the virus. People starve when they get welded into their apartment building and no one feeds them or lets them out.


Bruno Wu?
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 3/20/20 at 3:48 pm to
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There will be no long term shutdown. The semi-shutdown state we are in now is to ramp up testing and isolation like South Korea. And if we can get to summer, it is more difficult for th virus to spread.


No it doesn't. The virus will be back just like the flu, whether its 4 weeks, or 4-6 months.

This has a transmission rate higher than the flu... humans have been unable to stop the flu. Which is why you are already seeing spikes in Hong Kong.

Literally, what you are talking about is nonsense. Already seeing lines in mainland.... oh buy no new infections. Yeah right.

LINK

Lock down has to be many months (6-12mos, and possibly up to 18 mos.) and more strict than what exist already in this country.
This post was edited on 3/20/20 at 3:52 pm
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 3/20/20 at 3:49 pm to
because they didn't even try to contain it, they let it spread like wildfire across the country and most just had mild cold symptoms and recovered, the sick and elderly died and they were perfectly ok with that happening

when the whole population gets infected its done and over with in a week or two, the more you try to prevent it the longer and worse it gets.

there never should have even been a warning about carona and no one would have even know the difference

every year we get a new Asian flu outbreak, this one was no different then the last 20 years it happens, only the fear mongering by the press caused the panic and global over reactions
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 3/20/20 at 3:55 pm to
We're looking at reset button at this point, the virus is going to be the least of everyone's concern.... do to all these nutjobs.

Literally more people are going to die from the flu this year in this country.

Posted by RTM4
Pflugerville
Member since Apr 2018
2345 posts
Posted on 3/20/20 at 3:56 pm to
There is no way they could hide that many deaths. So, we have a virus that is black plague level and China sat on it and allowed it to infect the world? This I could believe, but if that is the case why haven't tens of thousands other deaths been reported outside of China?

Someone is lying and I don't mean to insult your source but I believe they are full of chit.
Posted by Tiger Chemist
Member since Nov 2009
3157 posts
Posted on 3/20/20 at 3:59 pm to
Has anyone noticed how absent their president has been for months? If you google his name in the “news” query, there is almost nothing.
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 3/20/20 at 3:59 pm to
It doesn't have black death numbers. Most estimates are 30-60% of the total populations.

Is China lying, yes, but no its nothing like the plague.

This post was edited on 3/20/20 at 4:02 pm
Posted by Muleriderhog
NYC
Member since Jan 2015
3116 posts
Posted on 3/20/20 at 4:00 pm to
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And I am pretty sure it is hard to keep 1.4 billion people tight lipped in the age of CELL PHONES

Somebody doesn’t understand how life in a communist country works.
Posted by The Baker
This is fine.
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 3/20/20 at 4:04 pm to
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Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Charlie Kirk's America
Member since Nov 2007
14898 posts
Posted on 3/20/20 at 4:07 pm to
Because they are lying!!!!
Posted by LakeCharles
USA
Member since Oct 2016
5387 posts
Posted on 3/20/20 at 6:18 pm to
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Bruno Wu?



Miles Guo
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
30081 posts
Posted on 3/20/20 at 6:41 pm to
Look I am republican as it gets, but looking at anything out of china is idiotic. For one thing their government will literally exterminate anyone that doesn't do exactly as they say during their lockdown. Number 2 china will just give us whatever numbers they want to give us.
Posted by 88Wildcat
Topeka, Ks
Member since Jul 2017
16859 posts
Posted on 3/20/20 at 7:03 pm to
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Somebody doesn’t understand how life in a communist country works.


Someone also doesn't understand that China uses a "social credit" system to determine access to the internet and social media. Basically the system works like this. The more you promote China and the Chinese government the greater access to the internet you are allowed. And they have spyware in their cell phones and computers that allow them to keep track of this.
Posted by UncleD7734
Member since Apr 2019
1418 posts
Posted on 3/20/20 at 7:12 pm to
China doesnt have to frick with the FDA, DEA, CDC and another 20 frickin gubment organizations. They probably been giving medicine to their folks without this bullshite we deal with.
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 3/20/20 at 7:16 pm to
Either one of two things could happen...

1. the bug will start to surge once the restrictions are lifted

or

2. the people not showing symptoms (asympomatic) is much larger than the Diamond Princess numbers... basically it burned itself out (I would say unlikely) Are most people already immune?

Either way you can't shut the world down forever without hitting the reset button. This is a serious bug but at the end of the day, I haven't seen anything to go ape shite over.... meaning frick everyone over in the world.
This post was edited on 3/20/20 at 7:23 pm
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
18626 posts
Posted on 3/20/20 at 7:20 pm to
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If it so contagious wouldn't ever person in China have it by now,


You should google R0 value of outbreaks.

As a community approaches 40% immunity, the R0 value drops and the outbreak dies off.

Quarantine/social distancing also reduces the R0 value.
Posted by atekipp
DTLA
Member since Mar 2012
18 posts
Posted on 3/20/20 at 7:22 pm to
This video should provide some insight into the practical measures that cities in China have taken to stop the spread of the virus: LINK
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 3/20/20 at 7:29 pm to
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his video should provide some insight into the practical measures that cities in China have taken to stop the spread of the virus: LINK


Unless the amount of people not showing symptoms is off the charts, meaning most of the population had it and are immune now... the virus will be back once the restriction are lifted and the conditions are right.

If its the first part that means the death rate is probably much lower than the flu.
This post was edited on 3/20/20 at 7:30 pm
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