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re: WSJ: Trump Not Rebuilding Military
Posted on 7/12/25 at 6:26 pm to prplhze2000
Posted on 7/12/25 at 6:26 pm to prplhze2000
You people are just nuts
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Posted on 7/12/25 at 6:27 pm to MikkUGA
You think? My father, the former Thuderbirds pilot would never fly a 15 over a 16. He never flew 22's or 35's. But, of his friend group from back on jos USAF days would pick a F 16. The other planes simply can't do what F-16 can do.
AI thinks you are wrong.
In full disclosure Grok says it's very close
AI thinks you are wrong.
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These are results for what fighter jet do Air Force pilots love the most?
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Historically, which fighter jet was the most successful ...
The F-16 Fighting Falcon, also known as the "Viper", is often cited as a favorite among Air Force pilots due to its maneuverability, ease of flying, and excellent visibility from the cockpit. Its fly-by-wire controls make it responsive and enjoyable to fly.
In full disclosure Grok says it's very close
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Ultimately, the F-22 seems to edge out slightly for its cutting-edge tech and dogfighting prowess, but the F-16’s versatility and fun factor make it a close second. P
This post was edited on 7/12/25 at 6:30 pm
Posted on 7/12/25 at 6:28 pm to TigerFanatic99
Unlike most of those countries, we actually need a navy.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 6:29 pm to prplhze2000
President Trump can't fix the state of our weakened military in six months? Shocking. Maybe he should ask the Taliban to give back some of Biden's equipment.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 6:30 pm to Saint Alfonzo
No one expects him to.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 6:31 pm to tigeraddict
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Just removing the DEI mindset will lead to a stronger military……
Less is more when it comes to military DEI.
More people will enlist and efficiency improves exponentially.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 6:32 pm to Sofaking2
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The future of warfare will look nothing like the past. It will be unmanned drone weapon systems both air and sea.
Intelligent drones have already started to emerge and they have already made a whole lot of armor obsolete.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 6:33 pm to Saint Alfonzo
space force
Posted on 7/12/25 at 6:38 pm to prplhze2000
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The military is in worse shape
Hmmm? DOGE problem? Because, money has been spent, a lot lot lot of it...blood, shed, a lot of it.
Ineptitude in military administration, spending, affairs; old as time among all nations.
Pentagon Papers was a "day in the life" of the Brass that leads the MIC.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 6:42 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
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He's just getting started. I know we are scared of China. Especially so as they spend a third of the amount on defense that we do.
They’re getting a whole lot more stuff in return for the RMB. Now as to whether it works like it should…
I can tell you this from extensive first hand experience — their infrastructure and ability to build quickly is leaps and bounds ahead of us. We will not fare well in a conflict with them no matter how far ahead we think we are technologically. They will simply out produce us.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 6:46 pm to Bayoutigre
Golden Dome, Space Force, Drones and Murder Bots.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 7:03 pm to Sofaking2
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destroyers
Surface combatants are not obsolete anytime soon. Where do you think the missiles come from? That includes the hypersonics. We should be pumping out the Constellation class frigates and just aren’t because our red tape is outrageous. The design is done—it’s literally already produced by two other navies. It’s a modified FREMM. But we just can’t get them moving because our shipyards are slow and under-resourced.
The 2000-2015 ish era was the worst era of US shipbuilding in history. We built several dozen useless LCS ships that can’t do anything and wasted tens of billions on the Zumwalts that also can’t do anything because we killed their weapon system. So now they are being retrofitted for hypersonic AS missiles but I’m sure that will suck too and need 18 years of testing.
The only thing we put out reliably are the VA class subs, and even those at just one a year. Which isn’t adequate to replace the old 688’s. The Ohio replacements are years behind schedule already and won’t see service for another ten years
US shipbuilding is an embarrassing disaster. You mentioned cargo ships—we practically don’t even build those anymore. Our shipyards were all closed in the last half of the 20th century. We don’t build anything anymore. Bath, Newport News, HI in Mississippi, and whatever the hell FMM is doing in Wisconsin isn’t enough.
This post was edited on 7/12/25 at 7:18 pm
Posted on 7/12/25 at 7:13 pm to Rebel
Well my 23 years in military avionics and aircraft modifications plus being around hundreds of pilots that would choose a 15 over a 16 everyday would tell them they are wrong. I also have 17 years experience with F16s and the F15 is far superior to an F16 in every way possible. We call F16s lawn darts for a reason. The F15 is 100-0 in air to air combat, can't say near the same for an F16. So the AI is also wrong.
This post was edited on 7/12/25 at 7:16 pm
Posted on 7/12/25 at 7:21 pm to MikkUGA
being in an AMU for 23 years makes you more knowledgeable than the guys that fly the plane?
Posted on 7/12/25 at 7:23 pm to prplhze2000
All those missing trillions .,,,,
Posted on 7/12/25 at 7:23 pm to prplhze2000
Give it a fricking rest why doncha…
Posted on 7/12/25 at 7:25 pm to Indefatigable
I agree with US shipbuilding being a problem but that’s not from lack of funding and I am just going to say it, not of this includes the dark army shite.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 7:30 pm to prplhze2000
Getting rid of the troons is definitely a step in the right direction.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 7:31 pm to TutHillTiger
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agree with US shipbuilding being a problem but that’s not from lack of funding and I am just going to say it, not of this includes the dark army shite.
Oh I agree funding isn’t an issue. It’s a bureaucratic and labor issue. The US spent the past 70 years making a conscious decision to kill our ability to build ships of all types.
It’s gotten to the point that we just don’t have it and can’t summon it out of thin air. The people who decided to kill Avondale, Philly, and literally all shipbuilding capability on the West Coast should be killed.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 7:32 pm to prplhze2000
They find something to complain about. Incredible.
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