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re: **** Official Summer 2012 Transfer Thread ****
Posted on 7/17/12 at 10:03 am to Patch
Posted on 7/17/12 at 10:03 am to Patch
Thorgan Hazard, younger brother of Chelsea's Eden Hazard is set to link up with his brother in London at Stamford Bridge. Only has a year left on his contract with french club RC Lens.
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Eden claims his skill level is better than his and that he is younger and has not been given the chance to prove himself at a senior club yet. Says, he is better that him.
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Eden claims his skill level is better than his and that he is younger and has not been given the chance to prove himself at a senior club yet. Says, he is better that him.
This post was edited on 7/17/12 at 10:05 am
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Posted on 7/17/12 at 10:04 am to Patch
Twitter rumors of Lukaku going on loan to Fulham.
Posted on 7/17/12 at 10:06 am to Bho
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Twitter rumors of Lukaku going on loan to Fulham.
Lukaku should get the start tomorrow night in Seattle and I think a decission will be made very quickly if he goes out on loan or not
Posted on 7/17/12 at 10:16 am to Bho
Yo dawg. Check the last page... 
Posted on 7/17/12 at 10:23 am to Patch
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Man United just had a 38 million bid for Lucas Moura rejected by Sao Paulo
He's a better prospect than Neymar, IMO
Posted on 7/17/12 at 10:31 am to LSUSOBEAST1
quote:How much would you be willing to pay for a youngster like him?
He's a better prospect than Neymar, IMO
Posted on 7/17/12 at 10:46 am to Patch
It's tough to say because his market value is so skewed (just look at the Oscar deal). I definitely wouldn't go over 25M pounds, although United can afford that even if he busts.
Posted on 7/17/12 at 10:53 am to Bho
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Twitter rumors of Lukaku going on loan to Fulham.
If Lukaku goes on loan, then Chelsea will pay 35 million for Cavani and anywhere from 130k-150k/week for his salary. I bet this deal will be done in the next few days.
Posted on 7/17/12 at 10:54 am to LSUSOBEAST1
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LSUSOBEAST1
One thing can be said though, Brazil has their kids on lock. They will only let them go outside if they get top dollar. I guess it's good that they recognize the talent and sign them early to keep them.
Posted on 7/17/12 at 12:04 pm to Patch
I don't like to buy into the hype of Brazilian super kids until they prove something in Europe. Too many come out of Brazil incredibly overrated and overpriced.
Posted on 7/17/12 at 12:15 pm to UPT
Zlatan is officially a PSG player.
Posted on 7/17/12 at 12:28 pm to LSUSOBEAST1
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He's a better prospect than Neymar, IMO
I couldn't agree with this more. The Neymar hoopla is about as ridiculous as the Hazard obsession, right now. Both are young, talented, and have massive potential, but they are nowhere near as good as people give them credit.
I've said multiple times I'm holding off on crowning Hazard the second coming, and I'll go public saying the same for Neymar.
Moura seems to be a bit more well rounded for me. He's also much stronger on the ball.
Posted on 7/17/12 at 12:39 pm to BleedPurpleGold
Lucas Moura is definitely stronger on the ball than Neymar... but Neymar has a lot more in his locker, in terms of skill and tricks... and he is also a better finisher. If he can get stronger, there is no telling how could he could be.
Who is better in the long run will be interesting to see. Moura seems to be the more grounded of the two, which could go a long way in establishing who ends up better...
Just my opinion...
Who is better in the long run will be interesting to see. Moura seems to be the more grounded of the two, which could go a long way in establishing who ends up better...
Just my opinion...
Posted on 7/17/12 at 12:42 pm to TFTC
We'll see how much of Neymar's game actually translates to European football.
It will be interesting to see how both of them do in the Olympics.
It will be interesting to see how both of them do in the Olympics.
Posted on 7/17/12 at 12:45 pm to TFTC
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Lucas Moura is definitely stronger on the ball than Neymar... but Neymar has a lot more in his locker, in terms of skill and tricks... and he is also a better finisher. If he can get stronger, there is no telling how could he could be.
In my opinion and experience, being good at doing tricks with your feet is the least effective trait in regard to making a professional impact on a team (then again, I'm not a professional player, so I wouldn't know). A disciplined fullback should be able to negate a good bit of that advantage, and we just haven't seen him go up against world quality defenders domestically. When he did internationally, he had flashes of success, but I would venture to say that the majority of his antics with the ball at his feet in those games hindered, rather than helped him.
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Who is better in the long run will be interesting to see. Moura seems to be the more grounded of the two, which could go a long way in establishing who ends up better...
Exactly. To make it in professional football you don't have to be flashy. You have to be technically sound.
I know its an extreme comparison, but Messi is not flashy. He doesn't rainbow people, and triple dummy them into falling on the ground. Yes he's incredible with the ball at his feet, but his approach to dribbling and attacking a defender is drastically different from Neymar's.
Posted on 7/17/12 at 12:58 pm to BleedPurpleGold
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A disciplined fullback should be able to negate a good bit of that advantage, and we just haven't seen him go up against world quality defenders domestically. When he did internationally, he had flashes of success, but I would venture to say that the majority of his antics with the ball at his feet in those games hindered, rather than helped him.
I know what you're saying, but I think his are approaching the level of Ronaldhino, who did use those regularly to beat defenders. He just needs to get stronger so he can use them to more effect in Europe. And again, I think he is a much better finisher as of today...
I think its up to him whether he is going to make the next step to one of the best in the world... I just think he's that good.
Moura will be good, too... when Ive watched him, like a lot of young players he tends to hold on to the ball way too long and make dead end runs... I'm sure that he'll grow out of that in time...
I really like Oscar, too... Brazil has a bright future, as always... I would take any of the three at LFC in a heartbeat!
This post was edited on 7/17/12 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 7/17/12 at 1:02 pm to TFTC
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like a lot of young players he tends to hold on to the ball way too long and make dead end runs
He definitely has this issue, but so do most Brazilians at 19.
Posted on 7/17/12 at 1:05 pm to Patch
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Man United just had a 38 million bid for Lucas Moura rejected by Sao Paulo
Source? this doesn't sound like man united
Posted on 7/17/12 at 1:07 pm to winner
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Source? this doesn't sound like man united
Lol what can this possibly mean?
It was 30M pounds, FWIW
This post was edited on 7/17/12 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 7/17/12 at 1:09 pm to TFTC
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I know what you're saying, but I think his are approaching the level of Ronaldhino
As far as his dribbling is concerned, yes. But all I'm saying is you have to be more than a one trick horse. Neymar is very weak on the ball, consistently allows himself to be pushed outside and to the end line, and refuses to pass the ball. Granted a whole lot of that can most likely be attributed to his youth, but just because a kid can do fancy stuff with his feet, doesn't mean he's the next Pele (like many are making him out to be).
I'm not saying he wont be a legend, just that we all should be cautious to crown him based on his amazing stationary dribbling. There's more to football than that, as we all know.
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