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Posted on 8/10/12 at 3:49 pm to
Posted by DB10_AFC
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Posted on 8/10/12 at 3:49 pm to
Not a Chelsea fan but if I was I couldn't give a care if bringing in a quality striker would kill off Torres. Roman is just to proud to pull the plug on whole the Torres debacle. He will never become close to the player he once was so move on.
Posted by WarSlamEagle
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Posted on 8/10/12 at 3:50 pm to
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Personally I would rather CFC not get Cavani because I DON'T want to see CHELSEA succeed.

FIFY
Posted by Bho
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Posted on 8/10/12 at 3:52 pm to
Who does Jonny Evans play for?
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
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Posted on 8/10/12 at 3:53 pm to
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Not a Chelsea fan but if I was I couldn't give a care if bringing in a quality striker would kill off Torres. Roman is just to proud to pull the plug on whole the Torres debacle. He will never become close to the player he once was so move on.



Well that's the point. If they have given up on Torres, Cavani is a great buy. If they are going to support Torres (which is kind of the way they were leaning for a while), then Cavani really is an odd signing.
Posted by WarSlamEagle
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Posted on 8/10/12 at 3:53 pm to
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Who does Jonny Evans play for?

Us. Don't remind me.
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
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Posted on 8/10/12 at 3:53 pm to
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Personally I would rather CFC not get Cavani because I DON'T want to see CHELSEA succeed.


They are gonna succeed either way so it doesn't matter to me. I'd rather see them succeed with Torres bagging goals.
Posted by Bho
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Posted on 8/10/12 at 3:53 pm to
So STFU, Stu killer.
Posted by WarSlamEagle
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Posted on 8/10/12 at 3:55 pm to
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So STFU, Stu killer.

Honestly, this has nothing to do with Evans. Chelsea logic shining through again.
Posted by Bho
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Posted on 8/10/12 at 3:56 pm to
I wasn't trying to say anything logical. In fact, we've covered the Cavani thing and your knee shredding fandom keeps posting.
Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 8/10/12 at 3:57 pm to
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Well that's the point. If they have given up on Torres, Cavani is a great buy. If they are going to support Torres (which is kind of the way they were leaning for a while), then Cavani really is an odd signing.



It is and it isn't. A team like Chelsea plays 50 games per year. You can't expect a striker to play all 50, and Lukaku isn't ready yet. I think both players could conceivably coexist, as they would have some tactical flexibility. If RDM wants Chelsea to be more direct, he can play both together. But some of their moves point to a finesse approach, which requires a finisher.
This post was edited on 8/10/12 at 3:58 pm
Posted by WarSlamEagle
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Posted on 8/10/12 at 3:57 pm to
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They are gonna succeed either way so it doesn't matter to me. I'd rather see them succeed with Torres bagging goals.

I'd love to see Cavani in the EPL, so if they must succeed, I'd rather see it with him. Never been a big Nando fan.
Posted by WarSlamEagle
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Posted on 8/10/12 at 3:58 pm to
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I wasn't trying to say anything logical. In fact, we've covered the Cavani thing and your knee shredding fandom keeps posting.

Wait, what? I HATE Evans.
Posted by Bho
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Posted on 8/10/12 at 3:58 pm to
Lukaku went on loan to West Brom so we know not to expect him to contribute this year.
Posted by Bho
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Posted on 8/10/12 at 3:59 pm to
You love Man U therefore you love the Mexican and the knee thrasher. Got it?
Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 8/10/12 at 4:01 pm to
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Lukaku went on loan to West Brom so we know not to expect him to contribute this year.



Which is a good move. But I wouldn't expect Lukaku to contribute at an elite level that Chelsea would require for a number of years. By the time Cavani is 30, we'll know whether Lukaku will work out, or Torres for that matter.
Posted by WarSlamEagle
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Posted on 8/10/12 at 4:02 pm to
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You love Man U therefore you love the Mexican

Kinda.

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and the knee thrasher

No. We all have players on our teams we can't stand.

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Got it?

Nuh-uh.
This post was edited on 8/10/12 at 4:02 pm
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
Member since Aug 2008
28621 posts
Posted on 8/10/12 at 4:03 pm to
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It is and it isn't. A team like Chelsea plays 50 games per year. You can't expect a striker to play all 50, and Lukaku isn't ready yet. I think both players could conceivably coexist, as they would have some tactical flexibility. If RDM wants Chelsea to be more direct, he can play both together. But some of their moves point to a finesse approach, which requires a finisher.



Don't forget they have Sturridge who will also get very pissy if he isn't played.

Torres has never proven he can play alongside a second striker. RDM didn't fancy the 2 striker system last year and I can't imagine he will favor it this season with all of the width they have now.

Not to mention Cavani is also a loan striker. He is the focal point of Napoli's attack with Hamsik and Lavezzi right behind him. He really played poorly alongisde Suarez in the Olympics.

If they buy Cavani, either will have to live with being the #2 guy. Which, as you said, isn't that bad considering the sheer amount of games on Chelsea's schedule.

And please, nobody take this as me saying Cavani is a bad buy. He isn't. I just think Chelsea need to decide whether Torres is their guy or not. If he is, the deal doesn't make sense to me.
This post was edited on 8/10/12 at 4:06 pm
Posted by WarSlamEagle
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Member since Sep 2011
24611 posts
Posted on 8/10/12 at 4:04 pm to
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But I wouldn't expect Lukaku to contribute at an elite level that Chelsea would require for a number of years

FWIW, I love players like Lukaku.

I just don't see why any Chelsea fans wouldn't want to get Cavani. Can't imagine Torres being rated higher than a Cavani.
This post was edited on 8/10/12 at 4:06 pm
Posted by Bho
Lexington
Member since Dec 2007
24814 posts
Posted on 8/10/12 at 4:05 pm to
Since when does buying a better striker than what's on your roster a move that doesn't make sense? Obviously Chelsea doesn't trust Torres and what if someone gets injured? Also Sturridge may be on his way to THFC as well.
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
Member since Aug 2008
28621 posts
Posted on 8/10/12 at 4:07 pm to
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Since when does buying a better striker than what's on your roster a move that doesn't make sense?


It doesn't make sense if you are buying him to be #2. Like I've said like 4 times now, if they are buying him to be the starter, it's a great move.
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