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re: Cant blame jurgy for this one
Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:10 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:10 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
quote:He's way too slow against any decent team.
I thought Beckerman would have been the best for his defensive discipline and ability to recycle possession, but there was no good option.
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Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:13 pm to pvilleguru
He was slower than I remember. 
Regardless, 95% of the team played like crap. Nagbe, Pulisic, etc would not have mattered at all.
Regardless, 95% of the team played like crap. Nagbe, Pulisic, etc would not have mattered at all.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:13 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
I honestly feel like this whole game was the result of some poor roster selections before the tournament even started. We had almost no impact subs on our bench when guys like danny williams, lletget, finlay, morris, lichaj, feilhaber, and kljestan were either not on the final roster or in the picture period. Putting in beckerman and wondo should not have even been an option as they should not have been on the roster in the first place.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:15 pm to sgallo3
three questionable moves by jurgen, 3 goals.
beckerman: loses his man, gives up a goal.
wondo: plays a terrible ball, recovers to foul, gives up a goal.
birnbaum: subbed on instead of a more reliable choice in Besler. fricks up a simple play in front of his own box, gives up a goal.
beckerman: loses his man, gives up a goal.
wondo: plays a terrible ball, recovers to foul, gives up a goal.
birnbaum: subbed on instead of a more reliable choice in Besler. fricks up a simple play in front of his own box, gives up a goal.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
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we all know jurgen is going to frick it up badly if he has to think
It's kind of amazing the praise he was getting before this game for basically making the obvious decisions.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:17 pm to cigsmcgee
What was Nagbe's passing rating? Pretty sure it was 100% or nearabouts. GOOD frickING THING HE DIDN'T START. BUT I'M GLAD BIRNBAUM GOT SOME QUALITY PLAYING TIME.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:18 pm to Meursault
quote:5 for 5
What was Nagbe's passing rating?
Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:20 pm to sgallo3
Absolutely you can. Wondo and Beckerman had no business being out there.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:21 pm to pvilleguru
quote:
5 for 5
That's what I figured. I mean it's not like our midfield was sucking tonight, or anything. It's not like we could have used some control, especially when we struggle so much with a high press.
Jurgen fricking Klinsmann.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:29 pm to Meursault
i wish i could convince myself that we were 3 or 4 changes from winning this game, hell even 5 or 6. but watching that game it looked like we needed a better player in 8 or 9 positions to make any difference.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:30 pm to sgallo3
better organization and player selections would have solved 2 of those goals
Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:30 pm to sgallo3
quote:No one has said that.
i wish i could convince myself that we were 3 or 4 changes from winning this game
Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
are we trying to talk about ways or players to prevent more argentina goals or how we could actually have a lineup to play a straight up game with argentina?
if we are just talking about preventing 2 out of 4 goals that just sounds like bunkering better
if we are just talking about preventing 2 out of 4 goals that just sounds like bunkering better
Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:33 pm to sgallo3
quote:Being able to possess the ball more and actually get a shot off could also prevent one or two of their goals.
if we are just talking about preventing 2 out of 4 goals that just sounds like bunkering better
Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:34 pm to sgallo3
quote:
if we are just talking about preventing 2 out of 4 goals that just sounds like bunkering better
we needed to bunker better and counter better
we also needed better support in front of the back line
wondo (esp being paired with dempsey), zusi, and beckerman invalidate all of that
Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:34 pm to sgallo3
I don't know if we ever would have won but with the lineup he trotted out to start the game we never stood a chance
This post was edited on 6/21/16 at 10:37 pm
Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:36 pm to sgallo3
Argentina is obviously on a completely different level than the US. However, Klinsmann made this match harder for the US. When I saw his lineup my eyes popped out on stems.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:37 pm to sgallo3
I agree that Argentina would always be the better team but our tactics were all wrong
Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:38 pm to sgallo3
the problem is our development isnt there. we cant trap and control a ball with a defender nearby. Zardes wouldnt be in Argentinas player pool and he was the only guy on our team that put a dangerous ball into their box the entire night. everyone wanted bradley fired after 2010 because we played too defensively. everyone wants jurgen fired now because we play too defensively in our selections. these guys havent been bad/defensive managers at other teams. its just smart managing playing more defensively when you are levels below the team you are facing. jurgy has stressed since day 1 that the entire youth system needed an overhaul.
you arent going to beat barcelona with the talent of west ham. i'm sorry i dont care how u line up. and if you think west hams manager wouldnt line up defensive as frick ur just too blind to see what's right in front of our eyes
you arent going to beat barcelona with the talent of west ham. i'm sorry i dont care how u line up. and if you think west hams manager wouldnt line up defensive as frick ur just too blind to see what's right in front of our eyes
Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:41 pm to sgallo3
quote:
everyone wants jurgen fired now because we play too defensively in our selections.
wut
quote:
jurgy has stressed since day 1 that the entire youth system needed an overhaul.
and he refuses to play younger guys in place of wondo and beckerman
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