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Posted on 4/30/12 at 4:13 pm to ATLienTiger
Vinnie fricking Jones?
Posted on 4/30/12 at 4:14 pm to corndogluvr
Posted on 4/30/12 at 4:15 pm to WarSlamEagle
Yeah, well that was around when he got me following. Maybe it was after Euro 2008.
And they didn't start spending a ton or get good until after I followed them. They were right around the middle of the table that year.
And they didn't start spending a ton or get good until after I followed them. They were right around the middle of the table that year.
Posted on 4/30/12 at 4:16 pm to hendersonshands
Yeah I was just as shocked. He's having s beer and taking pics with people.
Posted on 4/30/12 at 4:17 pm to hendersonshands
quote:
I don't understand that to be honest. City is bad for the game.
rooting for man united would make me feel like i needed to throw up. i frickin hate them
Posted on 4/30/12 at 4:26 pm to StraightCashHomey21
quote:
United and Pool do it the right way and are far from the yankees
which of Man U's players come from its academy?
De Gea? no
evra?
vidic? no
Fedinand? no
jones? no
rooney? no
chicharito? no
young? no
nani? no
anderson? no
berbatov? no
smalling? no
sung? no
carrick? no
jonny evans? yes
ryan gigs? yes
welbeck? yes
scholes? yes
fletcher? yes
Posted on 4/30/12 at 4:27 pm to SlowFlowPro
Rooney was 17 when they signed him, same with Ronaldo. It's not like they're out spending 240 million pounds on strikers in days. There's a bit of a difference. No successful club is mostly from their academy. The academy system just allows them to hopefully get a few with some loyalty, nothing more or less.
Posted on 4/30/12 at 4:28 pm to Dijkstra
Boom
Posted on 4/30/12 at 4:29 pm to ATLienTiger
quote:
Yeah I was just as shocked.
I hung out all day on a Saturday with David O'Hara at Finn's. The guy who was Fitzy in The Departed. That mofo can drink.
Posted on 4/30/12 at 4:31 pm to glassman
Glass, put in a word to get an Arsenal legend there for us. I might have stuck around longer 
As for O'Hara, I would not doubt it. That Scottish bastard just looks like he could dry up a bar.
As for O'Hara, I would not doubt it. That Scottish bastard just looks like he could dry up a bar.
This post was edited on 4/30/12 at 4:32 pm
Posted on 4/30/12 at 4:31 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
Rooney was 17 when they signed him, same with Ronaldo. It's not like they're out spending 240 million pounds on strikers in days. There's a bit of a difference. No successful club is mostly from their academy. The academy system just allows them to hopefully get a few with some loyalty, nothing more or less.
Agreed. In my book, a player who was bought before age 21 and stays with the club for 3+ years is essentially "homegrown". For example, I consider Oxlade-Chamberlain, Ramsey, and Walcott to be homegrown Arsenal players even though they were brought up in other academies.
This post was edited on 4/30/12 at 4:32 pm
Posted on 4/30/12 at 4:32 pm to Dijkstra
Yeah 30 million pounds in 2004 was cheap for a 17
year old
year old
Posted on 4/30/12 at 4:34 pm to Dijkstra
quote:
Rooney was 17 when they signed him, same with Ronaldo
so how does this make it better?
quote:
It's not like they're out spending 240 million pounds on strikers in days.
they were ahead. city had to catch up (in a price-inflated market, mind you)
quote:
There's a bit of a difference
well kun, nasri, balloteli, etc weren't exactly old
Man U paid 25.5M pounds for nani a few years back and just signed ashley fricking young in the offseason
let's not act like Man U doesn't throw money around
Posted on 4/30/12 at 4:36 pm to SlowFlowPro
Yeah, United = City in terms of spending. Whatever makes you sleep better at night.
Posted on 4/30/12 at 4:36 pm to NOTORlOUSD
quote:
Agreed. In my book, a player who was bought before age 21 and stays with the club for 3+ years is essentially "homegrown". For example, I consider Oxlade-Chamberlain, Ramsey, and Walcott to be homegrown Arsenal players even though they were brought up in other academies.
:kige:
Posted on 4/30/12 at 4:37 pm to SlowFlowPro
What have I missed here, seeing numerous multi-quote posts arguing something? Nothing but SAF's tactics can be in question from this match right?
Posted on 4/30/12 at 4:38 pm to WarSlamEagle
quote:
Yeah, United = City in terms of spending.
city has spent a frick ton in the past few years trying to catch up with a top flight roster
man u has consistently spent a frick ton over the past 30 years or so
Posted on 4/30/12 at 4:40 pm to ATLienTiger
quote:
What have I missed here
it's OK to spend a frick ton of money if you do it like Man U, but if you don't have the advantage of having lots of money for decades to build up a consistent squad, it's horrible to spend a frick ton in a smaller period to build a team to compete with Man U
basically, whoever got there first (decades ago) deserves to be there, and people will rationalize justifications to keep that status quo valid, while similar behavior done slightly differently is horrible and will ruin the game
Posted on 4/30/12 at 4:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
I'm not buying their spending strategy. "Spending to catch up" isn't buying a ton of strikers and having to sell them off at discounted prices.
With the money City has, they could build a treble team.
Instead, they'll lose money on Dzeko and I don't know if they'll get back their 23 mil on Balotelli either.
With the money City has, they could build a treble team.
Instead, they'll lose money on Dzeko and I don't know if they'll get back their 23 mil on Balotelli either.
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