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Posted on 5/9/21 at 11:44 am to
Posted by theOG
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 5/9/21 at 11:44 am to
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Do you think the fact of the TV deal negates the poor ownership structure?


No, not at all.

I’m just saying United’s debt hasn’t affected you, as a stateside fan, to the extent that you should be writing 10,000 words crying about it.

You had great players and one of the best coaches of all time, so you won a lot of games. Then, the great coach left, so all you had were a bunch of great players who weren’t (and still aren’t) getting that same level of coaching, so you haven’t been winning near as many games.

Had Pep filled SAF’s shoes and United kept filling their trophy case, I don’t believe you’d have written War and Peace about the state of United’s financial standing.
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
21841 posts
Posted on 5/9/21 at 12:51 pm to
You love to see it.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126701 posts
Posted on 5/9/21 at 12:59 pm to
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I’m just saying United’s debt hasn’t affected you, as a stateside fan, to the extent that you should be writing 10,000 words crying about it.

You had great players and one of the best coaches of all time, so you won a lot of games. Then, the great coach left, so all you had were a bunch of great players who weren’t (and still aren’t) getting that same level of coaching, so you haven’t been winning near as many games.

Had Pep filled SAF’s shoes and United kept filling their trophy case, I don’t believe you’d have written War and Peace about the state of United’s financial standing.


Your missing the point SAF and David Gill covered up a lot of the Glazers flaws as owners

It put United into let’s play catch up around 2015/16 and resulted in spending money on the wrong players bc Woodward was the final say.
Posted by theOG
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 5/9/21 at 3:09 pm to
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Your missing the point SAF and David Gill covered up a lot of the Glazers flaws as owners

It put United into let’s play catch up around 2015/16 and resulted in spending money on the wrong players bc Woodward was the final say.


I’m not missing the point at all, I just think the point is stupid.

Does United have terrible owners? Sure. Is it some massive impediment to success? No. Would this thread exist if United were winning trophies every year? Absolutely not.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126701 posts
Posted on 5/9/21 at 3:12 pm to
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Does United have terrible owners? Sure. Is it some massive impediment to success? No. Would this thread exist if United were winning trophies every year? Absolutely not.


The owners have 100% hurt the ability of the club once SAF left, no director of football or sporting director hired. Instead Ed Woodward was in charge of player recruitment

The lack of investment from the owners has had a substantial negative impact

You have no idea what you are talking about

The Green and Gold protest were happening when United won three leagues in a row and were making champions league finals

To say these protest wouldn’t happen if we were winning trophies shows a complete lack of knowledge on the situation. You should probably do some research before making statements so far from being true.

This post was edited on 5/9/21 at 3:18 pm
Posted by theOG
Member since Feb 2010
10815 posts
Posted on 5/9/21 at 3:16 pm to
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You have no idea what you are talking about


I’ve missed this, buddy.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126701 posts
Posted on 5/9/21 at 3:19 pm to
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I’ve missed this, buddy.


I’m sorry but your post shows sheer ignorance to what has gone on and I’m gonna call you out on it.

Maybe you didn’t follow the sport back then so you didn’t know, but these protest have been going on since 2005 and in 2010 they happened a lot, despite winning the league three years in a row.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 5/9/21 at 7:23 pm to
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I’m sorry but your post shows sheer ignorance to what has gone on and I’m gonna call you out on it.

Maybe you didn’t follow the sport back then so you didn’t know, but these protest have been going on since 2005 and in 2010 they happened a lot, despite winning the league three years in a row.

He really doesn’t know what he’s talking about bruv
It’s quite rediculous
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39538 posts
Posted on 5/9/21 at 7:56 pm to
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I’m just saying United’s debt hasn’t affected you, as a stateside fan, to the extent that you should be writing 10,000 words crying about it.



I'm not a Man U fan my man.

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You had great players and one of the best coaches of all time, so you won a lot of games. Then, the great coach left, so all you had were a bunch of great players who weren’t (and still aren’t) getting that same level of coaching, so you haven’t been winning near as many games.



Great, it is still a poor ownership structure which gives little to United.

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Had Pep filled SAF’s shoes and United kept filling their trophy case, I don’t believe you’d have written War and Peace about the state of United’s financial standing.



Again, you seem intent on misunderstanding what I'm saying, despite it being something I've repeated over and over. What is the product being sold, and who makes that product? Hint: it doesn't involve the Glazers, or anyone well-indoctrinated to the American style of ownership.

I have far more respect for Abramovich and the Mansours in terms of owners than I do the Glazers. One group expressly understands the sport and why it is played, and the other does not.
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