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Posted on 12/9/14 at 9:29 pm to Jim Rockford
I got mine, and I like it! Simple to put together out of the box. Only items were the trash can and a power cord.
Posted on 12/9/14 at 10:06 pm to ILikeLSUToo
Right, and short of going liquid cooled and worrying about all that, you aren't going to get a quieter 12-core desktop in a small form factor with a vid card and multiple 20gigabit connections. Apple does engineer their systems pretty well.
The only time my Mac makes any audible noise at all is when rendering video and even then it's still quieter than my old crappy arse Dell desktop at idle.
The only time my Mac makes any audible noise at all is when rendering video and even then it's still quieter than my old crappy arse Dell desktop at idle.
Posted on 12/9/14 at 10:21 pm to Asgard Device
Seriously going to keep arguing this shite?
Posted on 12/9/14 at 11:43 pm to Asgard Device
Are you really trying to justify your Apple purchase by saying it is quieter?
My gaming PC has 8 fans in it and I can't hear it sitting 5ft away.
My gaming PC has 8 fans in it and I can't hear it sitting 5ft away.
This post was edited on 12/9/14 at 11:45 pm
Posted on 12/10/14 at 12:58 am to SG_Geaux
quote:
Are you really trying to justify your Apple purchase by saying it is quieter?
Clearly.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 1:27 am to ILikeLSUToo
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ILikeLSUToo
quote:
SG_Geaux
lol such butthurt in this thread from people who can't afford an Apple
Posted on 12/10/14 at 1:59 am to efrad
Check my first post in this thread. I originally came here to say pre-built workstations in general are overpriced.
You may want to redirect your defense mechanism. You can't troll the knowledge out of my brain.
You may want to redirect your defense mechanism. You can't troll the knowledge out of my brain.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 9:46 am to ILikeLSUToo
How is this any different than buying a luxury car or any luxury item for that matter? If you want to buy Apple for the sleek design and performance do it.
Can you build a car that can outperform an expensive car for less money? sure
Will it look as good? probably not.
The aesthetics of an Apple product are a huge amount of the marketing.
Can you build a car that can outperform an expensive car for less money? sure
Will it look as good? probably not.
The aesthetics of an Apple product are a huge amount of the marketing.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 9:51 am to ILikeLSUToo
quote:
Check my first post in this thread. I originally came here to say pre-built workstations in general are overpriced.
You may want to redirect your defense mechanism. You can't troll the knowledge out of my brain.
To be fair though, corporations don't really want to employ people to build these cheaper better solutions like you posted. They just want to deal with someone like Dell and Apple to get a solution.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 11:04 am to Dam Guide
Could've kept adding additional memory at $3200e but stopped at 15dimm lol
So right at $50k
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Language: English
Processor: 2 x Intel Xeon E5-2697 v2 Processor (30MB Cache, 2.70GHz) Edit
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Audio Adapter: Integrated Audio Edit
Stereo 3D Connector: NVidia Stereo 3D Connector Bracket Edit
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Language Pack: Publication - English
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Lenovo LT2323z Wide 23inch e-IPS Flat Panel Monitor Edit
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Unlimited Premium Support - Annual Subscription Edit
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Posted on 12/10/14 at 11:28 am to SERVON225LLT
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How is this any different than buying a luxury car or any luxury item for that matter?
Yep, the car comparison. If it were as easy to build a car that suited my every need to the nth degree, I'd probably do it.
quote:
Will it look as good? probably not.
Maybe a car wouldn't look as good, but a PC will.
quote:
If you want to buy Apple for the sleek design and performance do it.
LOL at trying to sneak in the word performance as though it were a discriminator vs. custom built.
quote:
The aesthetics of an Apple product are a huge amount of the marketing.
Agreed. And aesthetics are subjective.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 12:35 pm to ILikeLSUToo
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Maybe a car wouldn't look as good, but a PC will.
You're still limited to standard form factors though with custom builds. Some cases can get a little creative but in general you're going to be buying standard form factors unless you're looking to make a huge project out of it.
You're not really going to be able to easily build something like the classic great Apple desktop designs, like an iMac, PowerMac G4 Cube, Mac Pro, etc.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 12:50 pm to efrad
Arguably the Mac Pro is really the only design that isn't close to emulatable. But that argument relies on the notion that these designs are somehow superior. There is something to be said for the Mini-ITX, Micro-ATX, and standard ATX form factors and their case designs given their decades of existence. A different design does not always mean better, smaller does not always mean better, and while Apple strives to put as much performance as possible into a smaller package, experienced builders know that in many cases it's a silly endeavor that introduces too many compromises and consequences.
And while I think most Apple products look really, really nice, the trashcan Mac Pro is not one of those products in my opinion.
This:
Was a much better, more practical design that also gave the appearance of raw unmatched power (from a marketing standpoint). Custom builders even sought out this case for Windows-based PCs and Hackintoshes.
And while I think most Apple products look really, really nice, the trashcan Mac Pro is not one of those products in my opinion.
This:
Was a much better, more practical design that also gave the appearance of raw unmatched power (from a marketing standpoint). Custom builders even sought out this case for Windows-based PCs and Hackintoshes.
This post was edited on 12/10/14 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 12/10/14 at 12:53 pm to efrad
quote:"Standards" are the #1 reason to use a PC IMO.
You're still limited to standard form factors though with custom builds.
quote:I don't know, there is a huge variety of cases available. I'm not a fan of the gamer style cases, but there are a whole lot of options...
Some cases can get a little creative but in general you're going to be buying standard form factors unless you're looking to make a huge project out of it.
You're not really going to be able to easily build something like the classic great Apple desktop designs, like an iMac, PowerMac G4 Cube, Mac Pro, etc.
From the understated:
To the interesting:
To the very small:
And everything in between and beyond.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 12:53 pm to efrad
idiot
Posted on 12/10/14 at 1:12 pm to Korkstand
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"Standards" are the #1 reason to use a PC IMO.
Exactly. It has never been easier to configure a build from a compatibility standpoint, and there have never been more choices.
quote:
From the understated:
I am a huge fan of those types of designs. Fractal Design R4 and R5 are my top recommended midtowers. I am happy the case designs are going in that direction. 10 years ago, we had LEDs everywhere, neon cable sleeving, red and yellow and blue motherboards, and transformer-like exteriors. shite that I would've liked when I was 15.
(Pics were taken over a year ago before I switched out some hardware)
It's just a massive utilitarian case without the bullshite. Tried and true design, modular and easy to work with. And you can buy that design in several different sizes. I just needed the largest for my purposes. People want to focus on the impracticality of that custom water-cooling system as though I needed it -- which couldn't be further from the truth. That part is nothing more than a hobby. The watercooling equipment alone was close to $1000 and I would never try to argue its bang-for-buck in overclocking performance. One benefit is that it's nice and quiet (17db), but I could implement an even quieter solution for less.
Yet, even if I included such a monstrous loop in a superior workstation build, the price would still come out below a branded workstation.
This post was edited on 12/10/14 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 12/10/14 at 1:14 pm to junkfunky
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junkfunky
Speaking of workstations, what's the word on your next build(s)?
Posted on 12/10/14 at 1:15 pm to ILikeLSUToo
quote:
Arguably the Mac Pro is really the only design that isn't close to emulatable.
You can build your own iMac? PowerMac G4 Cube? (In cause you aren't familiar with the Cube, the novelty isn't the small cube form factor, but the ease of access and disassembly--its honestly like the Mac Pro in a lot of ways).
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But that argument relies on the notion that these designs are somehow superior.
Not really, I purposely left out anything implying that. It's just a choice. I'm not here to make you buy an Apple or even persuade you to do so. If you want a custom PC, build a custom PC. But if you could dream up a completely custom computer design in your head and snap your fingers and have it built, I would bet we wouldn't be seeing a rectangular ATX case.
@Korkstand
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"Standards" are the #1 reason to use a PC IMO.
I'm not really talking about standards in general, nor am I talking specifically about PC vs. Mac. After all, there are some interesting desktop PC designs from OEMs, just none nearly on the level of Apple's IMO. I'm talking about the lack of variety/creativity in custom built PC designs, due to the constraints of having to deal with standard form factors in parts. The Intel NUC you posted doesn't apply because it's not a custom build. The other two look nice but ultimately they're just ATX cases with an interesting twist to it.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 1:29 pm to efrad
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I'm talking about the lack of variety/creativity in custom built PC designs
As opposed to the huge variety of designs you can get from Apple? If it's variety you want, Apple is not the answer.
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