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re: Nexus thread: 2015 N5 and N6 Edition Revealed; Waiting Room
Posted on 12/9/14 at 8:50 pm to UltimateHog
Posted on 12/9/14 at 8:50 pm to UltimateHog
What does titanium backup pro keep? For example, I am wondering if I can somehow backup everything i have now, flash a custom ROM when it's updated, and then magically restore everything I had before (encryption/root and side-loaded apps included).
What would a custom ROM do? I like the interface look as I have it. Does a ROM change it or is all under-the-hood stuff?
I know these are probably stupid questions for a seasoned android user, but I'm coming out of a long stay under a rock as an iPhone user.
What would a custom ROM do? I like the interface look as I have it. Does a ROM change it or is all under-the-hood stuff?
I know these are probably stupid questions for a seasoned android user, but I'm coming out of a long stay under a rock as an iPhone user.
This post was edited on 12/9/14 at 8:51 pm
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 10:09 pm to ILikeLSUToo
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What does titanium backup pro keep? For example, I am wondering if I can somehow backup everything i have now, flash a custom ROM when it's updated, and then magically restore everything I had before (encryption/root and side-loaded apps included).
It backs up everything, apps and their data, restore and it's just like it was before ever being wiped from wallpaper to theme to icon packs already signed into accounts, etc. I keep one on my phone (which isn't deleted with a wipe obviously) and with Pro you get to store one in their cloud, and then I store one on my PC as well.
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What would a custom ROM do? I like the interface look as I have it. Does a ROM change it or is all under-the-hood stuff?
Depends on the ROM, but mostly optimization and smoothness. Usually have their own set of features as well but the big boys aren't out yet such as CyanogenMod and ParanoidAndroid.
This post was edited on 12/9/14 at 10:12 pm
Posted on 12/10/14 at 5:30 am to UltimateHog
I think I might stick with stock for a little while, unless PA comes up with some mind-blowing new feature. I'm pretty happy with the performance and feature set of stock + LMT. I'd like to see a little improvement in ambient display.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 11:04 am to h0bnail
I'm running Elix-R right now and the smoothness over stock is noticeable.
Also gained almost 3K higher Antutu score after switching from stock.
Gonna try rastapop in a few days.
Also gained almost 3K higher Antutu score after switching from stock.
Gonna try rastapop in a few days.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 11:59 am to UltimateHog
Unofficial CM12 just went live for Shamu 
Posted on 12/10/14 at 12:12 pm to UltimateHog
Never been a big fan of CM for some reason. Used to run it on OG EVO and it never really impressed me. Can't put my finger on why.
Alot of people swear by it though.
Alot of people swear by it though.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 12:17 pm to UltimateHog
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It backs up everything, apps and their data, restore and it's just like it was before ever being wiped from wallpaper to theme to icon packs already signed into accounts, etc. I keep one on my phone (which isn't deleted with a wipe obviously) and with Pro you get to store one in their cloud, and then I store one on my PC as well.
dont understand this. what do you not get by doing a nandroid backup with TWRP?
and who uses backups anyway???
i would much rather factory reset my phone when flashing so no weird settings/cache or anything fricks with my OS.
i mean..most apps seem to come back now you've installed (magic?) even after a brand new OS update..and the biggest inconvenience is filling out my user & pwd in a couple of apps I'm good.
ive made many a backup and just tossed them eventually.
the *only* time this makes sense is if you're a serial-ROM-flasher and you want to sit and flash roms all afternoon then return back to where you were before the shenanigans started.
i dont have time for that tom foolery. :getoffmylawn:
This post was edited on 12/10/14 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 12/10/14 at 12:20 pm to CAD703X
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the *only* time this makes sense is if you're a serial-ROM-flasher and you want to sit and flash roms all afternoon then return back to where you were before the shenanigans started.
Seems to be what he's doing.
I just want to be able to pick up where I left off anytime there's an update. And I suppose I should try some new ROMs. I'll let UltimateHog go through them all and tell me which one runs best in terms of smoothness and speed without sacrificing too much battery life.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 12:26 pm to ILikeLSUToo
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Seems to be what he's doing.
i was being a bit passive agressive in that response
Posted on 12/10/14 at 12:32 pm to ILikeLSUToo
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I'll let UltimateHog go through them all and tell me which one runs best in terms of smoothness and speed without sacrificing too much battery life.
Smart men don't let themselves be the guinea pigs of new ROMs and kernels
Posted on 12/10/14 at 12:40 pm to Hulkklogan
I don't mind testing new things out, but this clearly isn't his first rodeo, and I'd much rather compare stock ROM to one that's been deemed superior among most other ROMs. I still need to download titanium backup and mess with that. If it's seriously easy to backup and restore from my computer seamlessly, then I may play around with some ROMs this weekend.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 12:43 pm to ILikeLSUToo
Yeah testing ROMs shouldn't be too unsafe. It's when you start trying other kernels that you really can run into bricking your phone if you're not careful or if the kernel is buggy.
I don't really know if people change kernels anymore, though. This was back in the Captivate/S2 days that I would play with kernels.
eta
after a quick google on nexus 6 kernels, it does look like there's already a couple of custom kernels, one's still in beta.
I don't really know if people change kernels anymore, though. This was back in the Captivate/S2 days that I would play with kernels.
eta
after a quick google on nexus 6 kernels, it does look like there's already a couple of custom kernels, one's still in beta.
This post was edited on 12/10/14 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 12/10/14 at 12:57 pm to tgrgrd00
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Never been a big fan of CM for some reason.
Same, but I always try them out until ParanoidAndroid comes out, I've ran PA since the Nexus 4 and it's exclusively what I run once it releases. No members of the PA team have a Nexus 6 at this time, so it's going to be another month+ before we see it.
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Yeah testing ROMs shouldn't be too unsafe. It's when you start trying other kernels that you really can run into bricking your phone if you're not careful or if the kernel is buggy.
Nothing is unsafe on a Nexus if you know what you're doing even just a little bit.
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after a quick google on nexus 6 kernels, it does look like there's already a couple of custom kernels, one's still in beta.
I have tried LeanKernel for a week but have settled in on ElementalX for the last week and will be using it until Faux releases his for the N6 or Franco. Used Faux a bit more than Franco's on my N5 but both are best of the best.
This post was edited on 12/10/14 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 12/10/14 at 1:08 pm to CAD703X
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dont understand this. what do you not get by doing a nandroid backup with TWRP?
and who uses backups anyway???
i would much rather factory reset my phone when flashing so no weird settings/cache or anything fricks with my OS.
i mean..most apps seem to come back now you've installed (magic?) even after a brand new OS update..and the biggest inconvenience is filling out my user & pwd in a couple of apps I'm good.
I expected better from you, Nandroid and Titanium are completely different backups with different uses.
Titanium is a backup of your apps and their data to restore your device after a full wipe most commonly used for switching ROMS which require a full wipe. Nandroid backup is a backup of your entire /system.
When your phone is extremely customized, it takes 5 seconds to get everything back to my device as compared to manually doing it with a Nandroid backup that requires you to sign in to all of your apps again, change the settings back to what you had them, etc. Nandroid is a full system backup, and Titanium is an app+data backup.
This post was edited on 12/10/14 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 12/10/14 at 1:21 pm to UltimateHog
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Titanium is an app+data backup.
So, to clarify, if I backed up with Titanium and did a full wipe for a custom ROM, I could restore with Titanium and I'd get back:
-Every app on my phone, including ones I side-loaded like manually updating Youtube for 1440P, plus a few games I didn't pay for and apps that the Play Store wouldn't let me install so I had to sideload.
- All of my settings on the phone
- Everything I logged into, including the exchange accounts added, all of the messages/email/data associated with them?
- Decryption?
- Root access and all of the apps for which I've granted root access?
Posted on 12/10/14 at 1:29 pm to ILikeLSUToo
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So, to clarify, if I backed up with Titanium and did a full wipe for a custom ROM, I could restore with Titanium and I'd get back:
Just download the free version of the app and look at the menu, it shows you every app and it's latest backup. You can select all or leave some off if you want or don't need them anymore or think they're causing an issue.
Yes to settings, decryption isn't an issue all ROMS and Kernels have it off so as long as you're already decrypted you won't lose it backup doesn't matter for that.
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- Root access and all of the apps for which I've granted root access?
Root access yes of course, apps will need to be granted access again (or you can just go into SuperSU settings and change the default from prompt to grant and it will auto grant root apps access without you needing to do it) because when flashing a new ROM you are re-flashing SuperSU, it is built into the ROMS.
This post was edited on 12/10/14 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 12/10/14 at 1:43 pm to UltimateHog
I kinda like fresh installs, too, but I will use TB for games that don't back up to the cloud.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 2:28 pm to UltimateHog
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Nothing is unsafe on a Nexus if you know what you're doing even just a little bit.
I'm used to messing with kernels on the early Samsung phones, and there were lots of bricked phones from kernels back then
I'd always wait to let other poeple figure out whether or not itll brick phones before using any custom kernels 
Posted on 12/10/14 at 3:33 pm to Hulkklogan
Posted on 12/10/14 at 6:39 pm to tgrgrd00
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