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That was the plan all along.....where will China and Russia get oil?


Russia has more than enough natural resources to sustain themselves and China - they're currently building a natural gas pipeline to China right now.

There isn't much depth to this, boys, it's just a whole lot of a distraction and possibly part of some sort of a shakedown.
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Stop being a pussy, and a full blown tard.


Sorry for your loss. That doesn't chang the fact that this is yet another example of us decapitating a government with no plan while everybody sits and watches the fireworks but can't see the fire coming afterwards, so, no, marine, I can't see the value of killing a bunch of Iranian leaders when that's not going to bring about a real change when nobody in the White House has a plan that's worth a damn.
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And that makes it ok to lie to me and my brothers in arms?

Yours was not to reason why


The F*ck it's not - That's exactly what an officer corps is for.

It's not only an abuse of power, it's the fastest way to screw up a military operation, which is exactly what happened in Iraq and why it happened.

re: Charlie Kirk on Iran

Posted by Leopold on 3/2/26 at 4:15 pm to
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Did he say this before or after they murdered 40,000 people in the streets?


He said it after decades of political, economic, and religious oppression, a major war with their neighbor that cost millions of lives, and multiple generations of murders.

Why?
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Did you not volunteer?


And that makes it ok to lie to me and my brothers in arms?
Don't care for either of them.

I will say that if the emphasis in on things like battleships and making fighter jets 'pretty' as opposed to working with our global allies and containing the Russians then it's not as rosy a picture as you present.
Correction

The US Oil Industry controls the global oil market.

Having been sent to a country to fight a needless war for the oil industry, I'm not quite sold on the idea that this is a good thing.
If there is an ounce of truth to this - and you can bet your life there is - then any Russian timetable that we talked about a couple of weeks ago is now shot to hell.

That means that there is now no way that Vlad can go to his lieutenants and show them there is progress or a plan forward. If there is anything that could be a nail in the coffin outside of the Ukrainian forces outside of the Kremlin this might be it.

There is no feasible plan ahead.
There is no country coming to help Russia or save Vlad.
There is no stopping Ukrainian growth, especially in the arms industry.
There is nothing to gain by furthering this war except death, and that will come to all who are drawn in to it.

So when does that death come to his subordinates, ie. the ones who have access to him? Because that actually might get them thinking about what it's going to take to save their own hides.....
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That said, I do believe the Ukranians have put forth peace terms they know Russia wont accept in a disingenuous way in order to appease Trump.


Saying it’s not a criticism doesn’t make it true.

I get what you’re saying but you're still laboring under the delusion that the Russians want peace, that the Russians want anything less than the entirety of the Ukraine and the Ukrainians wiped out. Until you understand and acknowledge this you’re not going to get why the war continues.

The Ukrainians are playing the game the way the Russians presented to to them and cannot and should not be criticized or punished for it.
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It should be easy to overrun Estonia in a day, two at most. Yes that is still an issue


DaFuq they will. I don't buy that crap anymore.

The Russians can't take a Ukrainian town of 26k, you think they are taking a NATO country of 1.4M? Especially while the Russians are tied down in the Ukraine?? When they couldn't take back their own town of Kursk????

The Estonians aren't going to go against the Russians alone, there will absolutely be a large number of countries coming to their aid, starting with Poland, Finland, Sweden, France, and the other two Baltic States. And I can tell you exactly how this war is going to be fought, the only concern is whether or not NATO is ready for the drone aspect, and they still have time to be so

So, no - the Russians aren't overrunning shite.

Again, I'm done giving the Russians credit. If they want to attack the Baltic States, let them. I say NATO kicks their teeth in.
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They're building a pretty badass rear echelon army filled with veterans who survived a tour in Ukraine. And all the latest weapons.


What latest weapons? Have they engineered new donkeys???

The Russians don't have 'latest weapons,' outside of the cheap copies of the Iranian drones they are now building. And their veterans, the ones who somehow managed to get back to Russia alive, weren't properly trained, equipped, supported, or led in the first place, which is why their war has sucked in the first place, so they aren't a threat. With all due respect to anyone who served, the Russian veterans clearly weren't prepared for the war with Ukraine, and they will be even less so for a war with Europe/NATO.
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I'll dig up the assessment that concluded Russia would've been mostly driven out of Ukraine by now IF Trump and Musk had not engineered a series of setbacks for Ukraine whenever Ukraine gained the upper hand.

:lol:




Is this funny to you? Is it because you think it's a farcical idea, or maybe just political rhetoric? I'll post again the 3* General I quoted last night:



Go to the 16:15 point of the video, where he says:

"If it had not been for the failure of the United States, UK, Germany and others to immediately provide everything that Ukraine needed, and also to declare that it was our strategic objective to defeat Russia then this war would have ended two years ago, probably."


This is not only on Trump and Elon, but also many others, but, yes, when the Ukrainians invaded Russia and took Kursk and then Trump withheld arms and intelligence thus allowing the Russians to retake it, or when it took the leader of Poland to get Elon to stop allowing the Russian military to use his junk commo system, yeah, absolutely, we've allowed them to stay in the game, and Trump and Musk, specifically, have had key roles in it, many, many time.

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I think even the next big step is something that Trump has calculated as to our advantage. If Russia collapses and gets thrown into turmoil, China would have to move into Siberia and keep itself busy making sure breakaway republics around the Stans don't flame regional tensions. That might buy Taiwan another decade of Chinese distraction.


Trump has no such plan. Trump's plan is to get in tight with the Russians and make tens of billions of dollars off of this situation and you can't do that when your partner and one of your primary financial backers, not to mention the nation they run, is collapsing.

When I state I'm tired of Russian apologists and those giving the Russians way too much credit, Trump is #1 on that list. Trump still believes the Russians are going to win, at least to some extent - he's not going to back a loser.

Biden, for his part, was concerned about the Nuclear aspect, and I understand that even if I thought then and think now he still could have been more aggressive about arming the Ukrainians. As a result, yeah, the American approach under his administration was to bleed the Russians, and while it wasn't a stupid policy, and in some ways has been, yes, spectacularly successful, it was still the wrong one.

But, no, there is no way Trump wants Russia to collapse if he's trying to make multi-billion dollar deals with them.
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I wonder what would happen if Russia started sailing under their own flag and dropped the shadow fleet ruse.


If the Russians attempted this our Europeans and NATO allies that have allowed them to sail under different flags would be forced to seize them instead of knowingly letting them to sail on to their destination while said Europeans and others made money off of the them. If the Russian navy, which is a complete mess, attempted to stop the seizure not only would they be sunk it would very likely be the cause of WW III.
I grant you that TexAg and our good friend JB are about the only ones who have said it explicitly.

But I see it when I see people warn me that the Donbas is falling - not this year it isn't. Or talk about their opening plan. Or that their plan to use donkeys for logistics isn't the dumbest idea in war this century, one born out of complete desperation. And other things that I've seen though I'm not going to go through the entirety of this thread to point them out.

The Russians suck at war and we need to except that and start planning around that, not them taking over the Ukraine.
It's a correct assessment.

As stated before, the Russians had every possible, conceivable advantage you could imagine and yet they still managed to blow it; they should have been able to overcome even a bad plan, yet here we are.

If it had been a good plan the Russians would have taken the Ukraine by now.

So, please, everyone, stop with the 'Russians aren't that bad at war' schtick. It got old after the first year.
Here's an interesting take that's useful to this discussion:



"If I read one more article where some village is called 'the strategic village of middle of nowhere' I am going to explode. I remember...two years ago when Avdiivka was 'finally captured' and people were walking around like it was Stalingrad. I look at a map of Ukraine all of the time and I'm like 'where the hell is Avdiivka??" Then I look at the map and I see where it's in the far, far East, like, 5% of Ukraine! It took'em two years to get there! And then Pokrovsk, which they still haven't been able to completely take control of, and that's, I think, 60 kilometers from Avdiivka. So let the Russians brag about their inexorable advance all they want while the Ukrainians figure out how to slaughter them to the tune of 40 or 50,000 a month."

General Ben Hodges, former Commander of US Army, Europe.
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Russia's plan was good on paper.


Russia's plan on paper sucked - it straight F'ing sucked.

Russia's military is a Soviet-based defense force, and they tried to fight a war of conquest based on Western tactics. They had no organized command structure but rather a four-pronged attack into Ukraine each with their own commander, leaving the inevitable lack of coordination and fights over resources and territories. They brought 120K when they needed about 2M. It's clear that they had no coordination between their air, naval, and ground forces, no adequate command-and-control, logistics, communication, or intelligence plans. They not only managed not to achieve any surprise due to the buildup on the Ukrainian border they managed to surprise their own troops by lying to them about it being a training exercise. The fact that they have no competent or professional NCO corps became apparent when they got stuck on their way to Kiev - their attempts at taking the airport in Kiev was uncreative, poorly planned, horribly executed, and the Ukrainians saw it coming from a mile away. Their attempt at a huge convoy taking Kiev was even worse, running first out of fuel and secondly out of food, leaving a 40-mile train of vehicles stranded. And their 'planning' has only gotten worse from there.

I refuse to be kind here.

I can go on an hour-long rant - and have - about how sickeningly stupid, lazy, unprofessional and just plain pathetic this whole endeavor has been. There was absolutely nothing redeemable about it and its high time people stop kissing the Russian butts and acknowledge just how bad they suck.

Their military sucks.
Their leadership sucks.
Their media sucks.
Their government sucks.
Their FSB sucks.
And finally, Putin sucks.

I'm sick and tired of people trying to throw the Russians a bone, so please, for the love of God people, everyone stop making excuses for the Russians and tell it like it is.
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Looking up the available troops of Ukraine and that of the invasion force, didn't look that way to me. It was pretty even in numbers, but Ukraine was defending.


Yeah, that was the first indication that things were off. I told a couple of people Russia only had 120k when, based off of US numbers, they needed something like 2M. It was the 'tell' that the Russians had no idea how to fight a modern war.

As far as the airport goes, the Russians weren't as close to taking it as people suspect. The Ukrainians had a mechanized unit waiting for the Russians to try to take it, and when they believed the Russians had committed the entirety of their airborne troops to it they sent in a bunch of BMPs and tanks and just wiped them out. Another tell that the Russians didn't have a complete plan and the Ukrainians were a step ahead.
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Your friend might want to check on Kupyansk


Why? Is Z still hanging out in the middle of it?


Ya'll know this how it always goes, right?

The Union, for example, brought in a bunch of Irish and Italians to do all the fighting for them to win the Civil War. So much so that there were actual race riots up in New York and other areas of the Northeast, not that the Yankess will ever acknowledge this. Hell, some of whom are not only my ancestors, but also probably a number of yours.