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Chef Pass with a 15MPH East wind?

Posted by fishing1 on 9/30/17 at 10:37 am
I was planning on going fishing around chef pass tomorrow - inside the marshes off the intercoastal and also the bank of lake borgne going up towards alligator point / alligator bend.

With a 15MPH East wind tomorrow, what type of conditions should I expect? Along that side of the bank is usually pretty protected, but I don't ever remember going out with more than a 10MPH wind and never directly East.
Thought people here might enjoy this one:

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It is not me in the video, found it searching the other day though.

re: fishing crab trap pond? depth?

Posted by fishing1 on 12/28/16 at 2:15 pm to
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Shallow and grassy except between the pipes. About a foot and less in places. I trolled mostly, but did have to break out the push pole at one point.



Thanks. I may have to get over my hesitance of really shallow water (boat drafts 12") and start using a push pole versus trying to troll everywhere

re: fishing crab trap pond? depth?

Posted by fishing1 on 12/28/16 at 1:50 pm to
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Checked it out at lunchtime. Lost a trout, threw back a 15" red, and caught a lunch bass and a nice red. It was worth a try.



nice work!

mind saying the depth getting in? I am wondering if it was just really shallow when I tried

re: fishing crab trap pond? depth?

Posted by fishing1 on 12/28/16 at 8:29 am to
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When I first moved out to the Chef I took my woman and a bottle of wine on a sunset cruise to the mouth of Chef at Lake P. On the way back, in the dark, I thought I was taking that curve of Chef back to Venetian Isles, but ended up in Crab Trap pond. Didn't notice I had effed-up until we smelled marsh mud. She was really impressed with my prop cleanin and push polin skills.



That is pretty amazing.

When I tried to scope it out, the water went from 20 feet deep to 1 foot deep in about 3 seconds... Would love to hear a report if you fish it.

re: fishing crab trap pond? depth?

Posted by fishing1 on 12/27/16 at 6:58 pm to
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Money for sight fishing



So normally pretty shallow but clear?

re: fishing crab trap pond? depth?

Posted by fishing1 on 12/27/16 at 6:58 pm to
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I don't understand the post

Crab traps often mark a channel for you.


Sorry, I was referring to what is normally called "crab trap pond" near where chef pass runs into Lake P.

fishing crab trap pond? depth?

Posted by fishing1 on 12/27/16 at 12:31 pm
Is crap trap pond knowing for fishing? Tried to go in there recently, but it was really really shallow. Less than a foot in most of the entrance. Is it usually deeper?
and have any luck? Couldn't see further than 10 feet past the boat for a while in the morning. Hid in canals and turnoffs until it passed, but that took until almost noon.
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Just go fishing dude. If someone asks you to leave just say you're sorry and move along quietly.



This was my plan actually, just was confused how that particular area could be private.
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ishing1, I have a question for you.

How did you come about to start suddenly getting into fishing so much without much prior experiences?

Retired?
Major lifestyle change?
Divorced?
Said screw it?

Just curious, because I am jealous.


Went fishing all the time as a kid/teen with my dad and his friends. Then didn't fish at all during college and while getting my career going. Now have career going and the time and money to sustain originally buying a boat, maintaining it, all the gear needed, etc.

Making up for lost time! I still know how to fish well, the boating aspect is my huge learning curve currently.

This board has been incredibly helpful though with all the local areas and my endless stupid questions.
Was fishing the L&N train bridge recently, and then after wanted to go through a canal/cut right next to it and saw it was marked private. I know that many places are private but I was really confused how the land that holds the bridge could be privately owned.

The canal I am talking about can be seen in these google maps screenshot:



It is in the bottom left of the picture right under the bridge. On each side of the entrance are two private property signs.

Does a private citizen really own the land that holds the bridge and the marsh on the other wise that google cals 'catfish point'?
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I like launching BSM. Can have a lot longer line but plenty parking and if your boat is light you might have trouble putting it back on the trailer at Campo's ... the water can flow pretty strong by Campo's launch w/o a pier sticking out to help guide you



This is good to know. We normally launch at pretty protected spots. My boat isn't the smallest - 19 foot bay boat, ~1300lbs, but definitely not the biggest either.
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You can launch from Brenton Sound Marina and fish Lena Lagoon and the SE part of St Malo . This is what I did when I first got my boat and didn't know my way around.



I might just do this! Thanks for the idea
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I'm not too familiar with the area, but I've found it always helps to get on Google earth's historical imagery and look for times with a strong north wind. There will hardly be any water and you can see which bayous are silted in and which ones have good current.



Thanks. I didn't realize Google earth had the historical view!
So first - thanks everyone for the help yesterday about launching from Bayou Segnette. I am planning on fishing 5-6 trips over the next 2-3 weeks and that will definitely be one of them now.

To today's question - I have never been to shell beach, but want to go there on a trip soon. I was looking at the map, and I plan to launch from Campo's marina. For a relatively short/close trip through the marsh, I was looking at:

- Launching from campos
- Going into Bayou St. Malo from Lake bornge
- After getting out of the main St. Malo run, then fishing on the trolling motor on the way to lena lagoon (heading south). It looks like there a few ways that Malo connects to Lena lagoon and they look wide enough that they shouldn't be incredibly shallow
- Fish through Lena lagoon to the end by the mrgo
- take the mrgo back to the launch

Does this plan sound reasonable? Will there be a bunch of boats running at speed through st malo that would mess up trolling through there?

Thanks for any help.
Thanks BeauxNArreaux,

I really want to explore all over - i have heard around the island is good, fishing the shoreline of Lake C is good and also the tank ponds. I know I can't fish all 3 in a day but was trying to find a launch spot that could make it work.

I have a 19 foot bay boat, it can't handle huge waves, but a light chop I can still run decent.

I also heard that Pier 90 floods alot and is hard to launch from. Is that not true?
Thanks, is this one of the main ones near the north of lake C?
don't mind hijacks at all since it helps me understand better too. Where is the gulf canal?
Thanks!

I still get confused by the difference between marsh, bayou, canal, and all the other terms for bodies of water that look exactly the same to me..

understanding wind for fishing

Posted by fishing1 on 12/3/16 at 3:28 pm
We fish pretty often around chef pass and the shore of lake borge leading up to alligator bend.. I have been trying to understand how wind affects this area and others like it, but not sure I have it right.

If you have a north wind, which means the wind would be pushing water out of the marsh towards where we are fishing -- does this mean the fish will follow or just that they will stay in the marsh, but be in really shallow areas that are hard to reach?

South wind means water being pushed in means fish will follow in?

What is the normal way people make this run? It looks like you can run on way through a very windy path to get to the lake near the island between lake C and Lake Salavador... or you can follow the levee and turn through whiskey canal to get to the north of Lake C.

The windy way looks a bit daunting having never gone through there and knowing how crazy other people drive their boats... and the whiskey canal way seems like most of it would be at idle with all the camps on the water.

Crabbing in winter?

Posted by fishing1 on 11/11/16 at 12:09 pm
I have never been crabbing before but my wife really wants to get into it. Reading around it seems like there are spots all around (Lake P in particular) that are plentiful in the summer but maybe not as much once its cold? Does crabbing really slack off in the winter months?
I know that fishing was reopened in September, and the lake is supposed to be well stocked, but haven't seen many fishing reports from it.

fishing the reefs in lake P?

Posted by fishing1 on 11/4/16 at 5:04 pm
Are these normally fished on the bottom? I read about using sliding corks, but that sounds kind of painful... is that really how most people fish them? Never been the reefs but planning to run to them tomorrow.
Okay I see, it is just conveience if coming from the west. Do people just run that little canal into the lake then? I found a youtube video where someone was paddling fishing that canal but I think it was just because it was a kanoe instead of a powered boat.
I was looking around on google maps in the spill way and saw that right near airline, there is a boat launch into a long canal in the spillway, and to my surprise the parking lot was completely filled with trucks and boat traillers. Looking at the launch canal to the lake , I did not see a single boat.

So do the boats just use that launch to get to the lake? If so, why not just launch from the casino in Kenner?
Yes, you are right on that one. I just did a google image search and they were definitely lady fish and not mullet... man they are annoying... Also, the bleeding alot was a give away, I turned around after my son got one and he had blooding running down his arm from getting the fish off the hook.
Yea it was crazy... I am not the most experienced fisherman, but have been out enough to notice it was strange.

Some of the mullet were hooked in the mouth like they went for it, while a high amount of them were hooked through the neck.. We threw them back but not sure the ones through the neck made it far after

I also have never seen schools of trout that SMALL before. Many of the mullet we caught were bigger than the trout.

Strange day all around, but that one red felt nice and there was a decent breeze.
So I went out there today. Only got to fish until about 9:30. Only caught one redfish because everytime we threw a golden spoon, DOA shrimp, or matrix jig, a mullet or the smallest trout (< 8 inches) I have ever seen would get it. Many, many bites, and fish, but all mostly small except that one red we brought in.

I will definitely be going back though, is an easy spot to get to and has a bunch of potential.