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Johnkester59
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re: Wisconsin - who's going?
Posted by Johnkester59 on 9/14/24 at 8:44 am to Govt Tide
Hey all, welcome to Madison. Happy game day!! We might look like a lightweight on paper, but I still never expect to lose, especially at home. Logic be damned. Let's hope for a hard fought, injury-free game.
It's late now, but in case anyone is looking to fill their Sunday still, there is an interesting history angle in Madison that some of you might appreciate. Camp Randall started life as a literal army camp, training 70,000 of Wisconsin's 90,000 troops during the civil war. There are quite a few monuments/statues on the grounds still. Tough to see on game days but pretty cool if you are into history and have some time afterwards. In addition to a training ground (birthplace of the famous Iron Brigade) Camp Randall also served briefly as a POW camp, housing around 1,400 soldiers, primarily from Alabama, after the battle of Island Number Ten in 1862.
Over 100 soldiers from Alabama are still here, located just about 10 minutes up Regent Street from the stadium at Forest Hill Cemetery. That area, Confederate Rest, is the Northernmost Confederate graveyard in the country. Thought I would share in case anyone was curious. Just be prepared, this is the North, and the graveyard is in one of the most liberal cities in the country. The perspective and honor given this site is ...different than down there. Respectful but muted.
Good luck out there today. I think it might be closer than most suspect...
Forest Hill
It's late now, but in case anyone is looking to fill their Sunday still, there is an interesting history angle in Madison that some of you might appreciate. Camp Randall started life as a literal army camp, training 70,000 of Wisconsin's 90,000 troops during the civil war. There are quite a few monuments/statues on the grounds still. Tough to see on game days but pretty cool if you are into history and have some time afterwards. In addition to a training ground (birthplace of the famous Iron Brigade) Camp Randall also served briefly as a POW camp, housing around 1,400 soldiers, primarily from Alabama, after the battle of Island Number Ten in 1862.
Over 100 soldiers from Alabama are still here, located just about 10 minutes up Regent Street from the stadium at Forest Hill Cemetery. That area, Confederate Rest, is the Northernmost Confederate graveyard in the country. Thought I would share in case anyone was curious. Just be prepared, this is the North, and the graveyard is in one of the most liberal cities in the country. The perspective and honor given this site is ...different than down there. Respectful but muted.
Good luck out there today. I think it might be closer than most suspect...
Forest Hill
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re: AP Poll is out: LSU #21, Wisconsin #10
Posted by Johnkester59 on 9/6/16 at 3:13 pm to Tiger inTampa
The real problem was in the preseason rankings. UW was always a top 20 team, the national media only has room for OSU and Mich when it comes to the B1G. If they are doing well it completely drowns out every other team in the conference. This was, mistakenly, the first time in a decade that UW wasn't ranked in the preseason top 25.
UW won 10 games last year and took it to USC in Southern California (I know they are overrated but they have a similar rep as LSU, talent overflowing at every position). The year before UW won 11 games (very easily could have been 12 if we had our real QB starting the season as you guys saw first hand) and beat Auburn in the bowl. Both years we had a top 10 D. Before that we won the conference three years in a row.
Our Defense ended the year ranked #1 in the nation last year, #4 against the run, and we returned 6 of our front 7 (plus around 4 or 5 other guys who were heavy in the rotation last year) and by far our best corner. Losing Aranda was a blow but its not like UW had a rep as a bad defensive team before he got here. We still have multiple NFL guys on that side of the ball every year.
Don't believe the ESPN hype, UW was never the underdog the experts presented them as in the lead up for this game. LSU clearly has talent, but so does UW. I don't think any neutral observer would come away from that game saying that the talent on LSU's side was heads and shoulders above that of UW. Seemed to me like there was no real difference in athleticism out there once you got over the preconceived notion that LSU's players simply ARE better just because they play for LSU. If anything, UW seemed to have the biggest 'talent' advantage and it was in the trenches.
Take a deep breath Tiger fans, its not like you lost to South Georgia St, you lost to a top 15-20 team playing with a state sized chip on its shoulder. In the hype you didn't take us seriously, you didn't actually look at the tape and see how our strengths matched up with yours, you dismissed the defensive rankings as products of a weak B1G and the coordinator that you stole, you ignored the many Badger fans who came here to talk X's and O's in favor of SEC chest thumping. So now, sitting on the other side, it feels like the world has gone all topsy turvy on you and you are lashing out at those closest to you just to feel something.
Did LSU look good? No, there are clearly issues that need to be ironed out. But playing a top 5 defense on the road had a whole lot to do with it. Take a step back from the edge and realize that there were two proud programs out on that hallowed field on Saturday, it wasn't just LSU crapping the bed.
UW won 10 games last year and took it to USC in Southern California (I know they are overrated but they have a similar rep as LSU, talent overflowing at every position). The year before UW won 11 games (very easily could have been 12 if we had our real QB starting the season as you guys saw first hand) and beat Auburn in the bowl. Both years we had a top 10 D. Before that we won the conference three years in a row.
Our Defense ended the year ranked #1 in the nation last year, #4 against the run, and we returned 6 of our front 7 (plus around 4 or 5 other guys who were heavy in the rotation last year) and by far our best corner. Losing Aranda was a blow but its not like UW had a rep as a bad defensive team before he got here. We still have multiple NFL guys on that side of the ball every year.
Don't believe the ESPN hype, UW was never the underdog the experts presented them as in the lead up for this game. LSU clearly has talent, but so does UW. I don't think any neutral observer would come away from that game saying that the talent on LSU's side was heads and shoulders above that of UW. Seemed to me like there was no real difference in athleticism out there once you got over the preconceived notion that LSU's players simply ARE better just because they play for LSU. If anything, UW seemed to have the biggest 'talent' advantage and it was in the trenches.
Take a deep breath Tiger fans, its not like you lost to South Georgia St, you lost to a top 15-20 team playing with a state sized chip on its shoulder. In the hype you didn't take us seriously, you didn't actually look at the tape and see how our strengths matched up with yours, you dismissed the defensive rankings as products of a weak B1G and the coordinator that you stole, you ignored the many Badger fans who came here to talk X's and O's in favor of SEC chest thumping. So now, sitting on the other side, it feels like the world has gone all topsy turvy on you and you are lashing out at those closest to you just to feel something.
Did LSU look good? No, there are clearly issues that need to be ironed out. But playing a top 5 defense on the road had a whole lot to do with it. Take a step back from the edge and realize that there were two proud programs out on that hallowed field on Saturday, it wasn't just LSU crapping the bed.
re: I just want to say... - From a Badger Fan
Posted by Johnkester59 on 9/4/16 at 1:09 pm to MNBadger
How so? This is The Rant, they can take a little bit in their grits. 
re: I just want to say... - From a Badger Fan
Posted by Johnkester59 on 9/4/16 at 12:56 pm to AjaxFury
This seems like the best place to put this so here goes.
First off, good game, other than Orr there didn't seem to be many lasting injuries so that is always a good place to start. People are still way underselling UW (and the Lambeau factor), LSU is going to be fine.
UW has won 30 games in the last 3 years despite going through three head coaches in that span. We got handled the last two years by the National Champions and everyone forgot about us. Wisconsin is no joke, and you all treated us like a joke.
Maybe its not that LSU's offense is horribly broken, maybe playing a top 3 defense in CFB had quite a bit to do with it. I know everyone wants to dismiss the numbers because of the B1G and the fact that we lost our DC to you, but UW has been playing outstanding D for a long time now, way before Aranda got here. He put a different spin on it but we have built a top 15 program from the scrap heaps of the CFB basement based on our tough D over the last 30 years. We returned virtually our entire front 7 from the top rushing D in the country last season and everyone thought we did it with smoke and mirrors and some Aranda pixie dust. No one was giving our guys any credit for the numbers they have put up over their careers. They had a major chip on their shoulders and played with no fear yesterday. LF7 will be one of the very few to go over 100 in game against this UW defense, I think his performance will end up being more of a boon to his Heisman chances than it seems today.
In short UW is really, really good on defense. Aranda definitely helped us reach new heights but we didn't suddenly forget what he taught us just because he left. Our D returned a ton of guys who have played, and played well, in big games. LSU will not see many more talented defenses the rest of the year (Bama obviously), LSU's O will still put up some gaudy numbers.
Finally and maybe most importantly, the game was at Lambeau Field. Of course UW won this game. This was the single most important factor of this game and it went completely under the radar. LSU fans thought of it as a neat vacation. ESPN thought it would give LF7 a nice backdrop to kick off his victory tour and a natural tie in to all their draft programing. To UW, to us, this was a lifetime of waiting, wishing, hoping and finally seeing a dream come true. This was fricking Lambeau, this is our lifeblood, the single biggest source of pride to a state of 6 million often overlooked souls. This was an SEC team FINALLY coming to our neck of the woods. Its easy to dismiss B1G fan bases as inferior when you have only ever seen them as the road team, 1,000's of miles from their homes. There are millions of us up here who live this game just like you do, you just never see us because you haven't come here since 1988. We are always coming to your neighborhood to play and you consistently dismiss it as a factor when we bring it up. Well, paybacks a bitch. I hope you come back real soon.
LOL had to get that off my chest. In all seriousness good game LSU, it was a classic CFB slugfest. As the year plays out this loss will look much better, UW has been shockingly overlooked for some reason. This was a really good UW team playing in a supercharged atmosphere with all the motivation in the world, the season is far from over. LSU in my mind is still an 11 win team. Good luck this year, hopefully next time you guys will give us a little more respect in the lead up.
First off, good game, other than Orr there didn't seem to be many lasting injuries so that is always a good place to start. People are still way underselling UW (and the Lambeau factor), LSU is going to be fine.
UW has won 30 games in the last 3 years despite going through three head coaches in that span. We got handled the last two years by the National Champions and everyone forgot about us. Wisconsin is no joke, and you all treated us like a joke.
Maybe its not that LSU's offense is horribly broken, maybe playing a top 3 defense in CFB had quite a bit to do with it. I know everyone wants to dismiss the numbers because of the B1G and the fact that we lost our DC to you, but UW has been playing outstanding D for a long time now, way before Aranda got here. He put a different spin on it but we have built a top 15 program from the scrap heaps of the CFB basement based on our tough D over the last 30 years. We returned virtually our entire front 7 from the top rushing D in the country last season and everyone thought we did it with smoke and mirrors and some Aranda pixie dust. No one was giving our guys any credit for the numbers they have put up over their careers. They had a major chip on their shoulders and played with no fear yesterday. LF7 will be one of the very few to go over 100 in game against this UW defense, I think his performance will end up being more of a boon to his Heisman chances than it seems today.
In short UW is really, really good on defense. Aranda definitely helped us reach new heights but we didn't suddenly forget what he taught us just because he left. Our D returned a ton of guys who have played, and played well, in big games. LSU will not see many more talented defenses the rest of the year (Bama obviously), LSU's O will still put up some gaudy numbers.
Finally and maybe most importantly, the game was at Lambeau Field. Of course UW won this game. This was the single most important factor of this game and it went completely under the radar. LSU fans thought of it as a neat vacation. ESPN thought it would give LF7 a nice backdrop to kick off his victory tour and a natural tie in to all their draft programing. To UW, to us, this was a lifetime of waiting, wishing, hoping and finally seeing a dream come true. This was fricking Lambeau, this is our lifeblood, the single biggest source of pride to a state of 6 million often overlooked souls. This was an SEC team FINALLY coming to our neck of the woods. Its easy to dismiss B1G fan bases as inferior when you have only ever seen them as the road team, 1,000's of miles from their homes. There are millions of us up here who live this game just like you do, you just never see us because you haven't come here since 1988. We are always coming to your neighborhood to play and you consistently dismiss it as a factor when we bring it up. Well, paybacks a bitch. I hope you come back real soon.
LOL had to get that off my chest. In all seriousness good game LSU, it was a classic CFB slugfest. As the year plays out this loss will look much better, UW has been shockingly overlooked for some reason. This was a really good UW team playing in a supercharged atmosphere with all the motivation in the world, the season is far from over. LSU in my mind is still an 11 win team. Good luck this year, hopefully next time you guys will give us a little more respect in the lead up.
re: What will the LSU Football headline be a week from today....
Posted by Johnkester59 on 8/28/16 at 11:46 am to 777Tiger
Overconfident Tigers look to regroup after disappointing slugfest in Lambeau...
Clement steals the show in season opener...
Clement steals the show in season opener...
re: Bart Huston named starting QB for the Badgers
Posted by Johnkester59 on 8/26/16 at 2:10 am to monsterballads
I wouldn't rely on the video too much with him. He has only really played in one game, Illinois last year, and it was crazy windy. He actually has a pretty solid arm and has by far the most zip of any QB on the team. Decision making has been his limiting factor so far.
re: Bart Huston named starting QB for the Badgers
Posted by Johnkester59 on 8/26/16 at 2:05 am to monsterballads
Driftless is clearly trolling, but this is a question that there is no answer for. Every neutral observer of that camp came away saying Stave was the clear starter, McEvoy was intriguing as a runner but there was no way he was a B1G QB. Suffice it to say, Andersen is now at Oregon St because UW's admission standards were too high for him, true story, and no one is sorry he is gone.
Houston is nothing special but Chryst will have him serviceable by gametime. I have no doubt he will put together a better night than McEvoy did two years ago.
Houston is nothing special but Chryst will have him serviceable by gametime. I have no doubt he will put together a better night than McEvoy did two years ago.
re: Takes three Badger fans to equal the loudness of one Tiger fan
Posted by Johnkester59 on 8/16/16 at 9:12 am to Number 31
LSU is clearly a more storied program than UW, but we take this football thing pretty seriously up here too. I have to say after the last game we played where we knocked you around for three quarters before 2 of our 3 dlinemen were hurt (plus MGIII) would have given you guys a little more respect for our program but whatever. We have always been a team that proves it on the field, not the boards, and you guys will be reminded of that soon enough. Not saying UW will win but it will be a hard fought game for sure. Back to the op, I'll just leave this here...
Camp Randall
Camp Randall
re: Alcohol laws in Wisconsin
Posted by Johnkester59 on 7/25/16 at 12:26 pm to jlovel7
Every gas station sells beer, most sell liquor as well. Cool fact for those with families going, in Wisconsin children under 21 are allowed to be served as long as they are with their parents (and at the bars discretion). Probably won't let it fly at the beer gardens on gameday but if you go out to eat the night before or something you can buy your teenagers a beer or three. Only in Wisconsin.
Also if you don't want to look like a total hoser brandy is the drink of choice round here.
Also if you don't want to look like a total hoser brandy is the drink of choice round here.
re: Sons, tonight we shall avenge the 2000 sweet 16
Posted by Johnkester59 on 8/30/14 at 12:41 pm to S
re: Dillon Gordon vs. Wisconsin
Posted by Johnkester59 on 8/26/14 at 11:36 am to BornKjun
It is a 3-4 built on quickness and unpredictable pressure, its not the NFL/Bama version with 320+ linemen eating blocks. You may be right and it won't work vs LSU but the size differential along the line is not surprising given the design of the D. We are going to try to bring more guys than you can block and attempt to disrupt plays before they develop, we'll see if it works.
As for the reverse, the other poster is right, we can say the same thing. Our O-line goes;
LT März 6'5" 321
LG Lewallen 6'6" 321
C Voltz 6'3" 311
RG Costigan 6'5 319
RT Havenstein 6'8" 333
Both defenses will be hard pressed.
As for the reverse, the other poster is right, we can say the same thing. Our O-line goes;
LT März 6'5" 321
LG Lewallen 6'6" 321
C Voltz 6'3" 311
RG Costigan 6'5 319
RT Havenstein 6'8" 333
Both defenses will be hard pressed.
re: Aren't LSU and Wisconsin eerily similar teams?
Posted by Johnkester59 on 8/25/14 at 11:19 am to GetmorewithLes
quote:
If Wisc can close this gap in talent then you have some of the best coaches in the country.
If only we could get some talent...
3* 2* 4* 2*
re: Brief Wisco Breakdown
Posted by Johnkester59 on 8/22/14 at 10:55 am to igoringa
quote:
igoringa
Man you need to work on your reading comprehension. That was comparing UW to Iowa.
re: Brief Wisco Breakdown
Posted by Johnkester59 on 8/22/14 at 10:53 am to Keltic Tiger
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Haha, no it is not. I would guess that every hotel in Green Bay is already sold out. If you are going to be there for a few days I would strongly suggest Milwaukee. Its about an hour and half drive but is a much better city. The other option is Appleton but there is no reason to go to Appleton unless you have family there. Everything you can do in Appleton you can do in Milwaukee plus about ten thousand other things.
As for tailgating… Its Lambeau. We pretty much invented it.
quote:
Is Greenbay a big enough city to handle all your fans & 30K LSU fans, or should we try & stay in Milwaukee for instance? If not there, where is the next most practical city to stay for 3/4 days?
Haha, no it is not. I would guess that every hotel in Green Bay is already sold out. If you are going to be there for a few days I would strongly suggest Milwaukee. Its about an hour and half drive but is a much better city. The other option is Appleton but there is no reason to go to Appleton unless you have family there. Everything you can do in Appleton you can do in Milwaukee plus about ten thousand other things.
As for tailgating… Its Lambeau. We pretty much invented it.
re: Brief Wisco Breakdown
Posted by Johnkester59 on 8/22/14 at 10:49 am to MontanaTiger
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Will you at least have the guts to come back and admit that you vastly underestimated LSU? You really have no idea how big is the talent gap between LSU and Wisconsin.
Thats such a tempting offer coming from such a classy poster with so many constructive and relevant comments towards me. I will absolutely be here for the post game threads, but I think you are the one without a clue as to the talent levels of the two teams. Everyone and their mama knows how good LSU is. You are one of the top 2 programs in the country, I get it. I'm just not scared. All that talent struggled with a terrible Arkansas team and a mediocre Iowa team who are basically Wisconsin without the talent. Ole Miss took it to you. If this was the 2011 Tigers I would agree with you about the talent gap, but this is a team that is going to rely on freshmen at several key spots after coming off a good but by no means great season. I kind of expect LSU to win but it will be in a dogfight. You are not going to be able to line up and just run circles around us.
re: Aren't LSU and Wisconsin eerily similar teams?
Posted by Johnkester59 on 8/22/14 at 10:39 am to igoringa
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7-6 at halftime with Gordon getting 62 yards all game is kicking the shite out of them?
Yes our backup had 62 yards. Did you happen to notice how our starter did? 19 132 6.9 2 TDs for New England Patriot James White. They were extra keyed on Gordon because he was an Iowa commit for a good chunk of his senior year before reneging and staying home at UW.
The game is two halves for a reason and yes beating one of our biggest rivals at their place by 3 TDs was kicking their butts. UW-Iowa games usually finish something like 17-10, 31-30, 21-17. For either team to win by three TD's is rare. The all time series is 43-42-2 UW.
re: Brief Wisco Breakdown
Posted by Johnkester59 on 8/22/14 at 10:28 am to MontanaTiger
quote:
Thanks, but after LSU kicks Wisconsin's sorry arse we'll never hear from you again, similar to how the Oregon and TCU fans disappeared after LSU demolished their teams.
Why would I want to post on an LSU message board after our game is done? Of course I'm going to disappear, win lose or draw.
re: Brief Wisco Breakdown
Posted by Johnkester59 on 8/22/14 at 10:27 am to igoringa
quote:
You have a piss poor QB and absolutely no receivers
As opposed to your proven QB and seasoned WRs? Pot meet kettle.
re: Brief Wisco Breakdown
Posted by Johnkester59 on 8/22/14 at 10:25 am to igoringa
quote:
Also if you have to argue you will be fine because of the result of a double digit loss .... that tells us a lot.
Not big on nuance are you? But you are right we have never played a team with NFL talent before and we will be shocked, SHOCKED I tell you at the raw speed of LSU.
re: Brief Wisco Breakdown
Posted by Johnkester59 on 8/22/14 at 10:21 am to N.O. via West-Cal
quote:
how much better (presumably) is this Wisconsin team to the Iowa team LSU played in the bowl game last year?
Its tough to say for sure until we see how the front 7 comes together but I would say significantly. Iowa's RB was Mark Weismen who ran for 938 yards at 4.5 ypc and 7 TDs. UW's backs both ran for over 1,400 yards and 12 td's as they set an NCAA record for most rushing yards by a duo in CFB history. The two guys we return averaged 7.8 (Gordon) and 8.2 (Clement) YPC. The WR's are a total question mark but Iowa's receivers were terrible so I think its a wash there. The O-lines are the most similar aspects of our teams these days though I would (obviously) give the nod to UW.
The defenses are really not comparable anymore as we run a blitz heavy 3-4 and they run a strictly base 4-3.
As has been mentioned, we beat that Iowa team @Iowa 28-9 so take that for FWIW. The mental toughness and physical nature of the teams are similar but the talent differential at the skill positions is pretty lopsided in the Badgers favor.
re: Statistics: Why LSU will beat Wisconsin: A response to Wisc Trolls
Posted by Johnkester59 on 8/22/14 at 2:43 am to Johnkester59
Just to add some thoughts to the last post; The turnover on D is not as concerning as it would normally be. We are still in the midst of a transition from a 4-3 to a 3-4 under new coordinator Dave Aranda. Last year with the completely wrong personal to run what he wanted UW still finished with a top ten defense nationally. This year he has many more pieces that fit his scheme so the turnover may work out better than it should in theory and expectations are pretty high for the new look. In addition the D is built around pre-snap motion and heavy blitzing from all over the field. That may cause some problems for whichever young QB LSU starts and provide UW with some of the breaks we need.
On the other side of the ball, the one scheme that gave LSU trouble last year were power run attacks that came right at them and neutralized some of the speed advantage. UW is the poster child for that kind of O. We are not going to be running sideline to sideline all that often against your D, saving on the jet sweep which may be scratched early if LSU is prepared for it (which I would guess they will).
On the other side of the ball, the one scheme that gave LSU trouble last year were power run attacks that came right at them and neutralized some of the speed advantage. UW is the poster child for that kind of O. We are not going to be running sideline to sideline all that often against your D, saving on the jet sweep which may be scratched early if LSU is prepared for it (which I would guess they will).
re: Brief Wisco Breakdown
Posted by Johnkester59 on 8/22/14 at 2:32 am to SECond2none™
Unfortunately it is true. Not sure as to the reason, but it is a bummer. UW has a pretty unique band with the high stepping and all.
UW Band
UW Band
re: Statistics: Why LSU will beat Wisconsin: A response to Wisc Trolls
Posted by Johnkester59 on 8/22/14 at 2:10 am to tgerb8
quote:
And you would be shocked by a 7+ point LSU victory? because you loss by less than that to the other 3 teams?
Come on.
No I would be shocked because I know my team. We have a Heisman Trophy favorite at our most important position and NFL talent at every other position except QB (which is kind of a big flaw I will admit). This is not an unfamiliar position for UW to be in, playing against a team with far more 'talent'. The history does play a role in that. Every good team we have played recently has had a similar take on how they are going to have too much speed and athleticism for us to handle. Everyone of those teams has come out the backend and said, 'wow we underestimated the skill level of those guys, that was a dog fight we could have easily lost (or did lose).' Added on to that is the hope that Coach Anderson has brought a better mentality (and skill level) to the late game than Bert did and we won't have the inexcusable breakdowns that have cost us those games in the past. UW just doesn't get blown out, partly because of the system we run and also partly because of the mental toughness of our players.
If any team is going to do it, it will probably be LSU but I just don't see it happening. It is not as if LSU was some unbeatable juggernaut last year and you lost significant stars from that team at some very important positions. I realize you are LSU and there are more 5* guys just waiting their turn, but its the first game of the season under some very bright lights and freshmen tend to make some mistakes in those kinds of situations. I think it is a miscalculation to expect them to be in top from from the get go in their very first CFB game. I think (hope) that UW will be able to capitalize on those mistakes when they happen, and thus the game will be close.
re: Brief Wisco Breakdown
Posted by Johnkester59 on 8/22/14 at 1:46 am to Bill77379
quote:
I am not suspecting the talent of anybody in the NFL but you seldom see any OL who can start a couple of years and are 5th year seniors at LSU or anywhere in the SEC except those that are marginal.
Thats fine. But there is no real support for the position that 5th year senior = limited talent. Some teams can build through instant impact recruiting and some have to do it through development and coaching. The latter usually requires a bunch of redshirts.
quote:
I know your team last year was better than Iowa. Iowa had big veteran OL and their fans were sure they were going to run the ball on LSU. Their offensive totals running the ball were 76 yards on 37 carries for 3 first downs. There totals passing the ball were 13-30-2 for 167 yards.
What's your point here? Iowa had a terrible offense, you should shut them down, every good team they played did. There is no comparison to the talent level of Iowa's skill guys and UW's.
quote:
You mentioned losing your QB for part of the USC game. Well LSU started a true freshman QB who had never started a game and maybe had played 3 or minutes each in 5-6 games.
You are misrepresenting the context of those comments. I mentioned that we lost our QB as a counter to someone who said that USC beat us. I pointed out that our backup QB was awful and it was he and the USC O that lost/won that game, not the USC D-line. And again, there is a world of difference between inserting a cold, running QB who has had three ACL surgeries and can no longer run mid game and playing a highly regarded recruit who had a month to prepare.
quote:
Yo also mentioned you could not believe LSU's D and DL were better than USC last year. Believe this. LSU's D and DL this year are way better than the USC D and DL last year. Coach Chavis who has had some great DL at LSU and TN says this is the most talented DL he has ever had. A little young, yes, but talented.
I never said anything about the D as a whole, I only commented on the D-lines. And Chavis may be right and this is the best D-line he has ever seen, but just saying that doesn't make it true. We will see in 8 days. Until then I'm going with the team that had the #1 overall pick and another All-American.
quote:
LSU will beat you everywhere else.
So you claim. I remain unconvinced, but again we'll see in 8 days. I may be eating crow. But so might you.
re: Coach Miles makin movies!
Posted by Johnkester59 on 8/22/14 at 1:31 am to northLouisiana
But is he working with Ari Gold yet?
re: Statistics: Why LSU will beat Wisconsin: A response to Wisc Trolls
Posted by Johnkester59 on 8/22/14 at 1:24 am to tgerb8
I'd be pretty shocked. That would be our worst loss in 5 years. It is far from impossible but, again, I'd be pretty shocked. We are at a point were we expect to win every game we play. If we lose by any amount I will be disappointed and have to fall back on the 'what'cha going to do its LSU' justification. But looking at the two teams I really don't see the huge talent gap the recruiting experts claim and a blowout seems unlikely either way from where I'm sitting.
re: Wisconsin starting 22 question
Posted by Johnkester59 on 8/22/14 at 1:22 am to robins08
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re: Statistics: Why LSU will beat Wisconsin: A response to Wisc Trolls
Posted by Johnkester59 on 8/22/14 at 1:06 am to tgerb8
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What you are describing is football. Alabama constantly has the #1 ranked recruiting class yet they lose games. Teams lose to "inferior" talent all the time
Exactly. I just thought it might be a nice reminder for the 48-17 crowd.
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So yes. Just like any game. The favorite could lose. But they are the favorite for a reason.
My prediction. LSU, GOOD. Wisky, GOOD. 7+ victory for LSU.
And hopefully Wisky goes undefeated from there.
I can't argue with that take though I think the 3 level difference is overstating it a bit. I would be pretty shocked if it was more than a one score game either way in the 4th quarter and as you said, LSU is the favorite for a reason.
re: Brief Wisco Breakdown
Posted by Johnkester59 on 8/22/14 at 1:02 am to tgerb8
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Agreed.
Definitely both good football teams. I think LSU can afford to make a few more mistakes than Wisconsin, but there is no doubt that we could lose this game...
Double agreed. And I think you are right about LSU having more room for error. I think many Badger fans are optimistic about the direction that Coach Anderson is taking us and the hope is that this is the year were we finally break through and win one of those big time match ups instead of just keeping it close and losing in the closing minutes (damn you MSU Hail Mary!). We are definitely going to have to bring our A game if we want to have any chance at winning while I think LSU can get away with a B+ performance and still pull it out. I hope both the teams set the year off right with a great game!
re: Brief Wisco Breakdown
Posted by Johnkester59 on 8/22/14 at 12:55 am to NotRight37
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Johnkester and even the 1 post Badger are being very respectful and just giving their thoughts. I respect that, my surprise is the small numbers of those fellows that post here especially this close to the game. Nothing like an SEC game obviously, but we had more Iowa, TCU, etc posters...and forget about the Ducks (they were all up in here as were the the couch burners).
Thank you. And many posters here have been very complimentary to Bucky as well. UW is a weird case for a team that has been as successful over the last 20 years as we have been. We were literally one of the worst teams in CFB for nearly, well our whole history minus some good years in the 50's and 60's when we had guys like Heisman Trophy winner Alan 'The Horse' Ameche and Elroy 'Crazy Legs' Hirsch. As a result Badger fans had to turn the games into a party and the focus shifted to the game day experience instead of the game itself.
This tradition has persisted even as the program has improved. The game day atmosphere is still the main event with the game coming in a distant second. This drives die hards like me crazy but it has its perks. One of those is we are a very humble fan base. Many of our fans remember the days of 2 win seasons and 54-3 blowouts quite vividly, so they approach every season with cautious optimism instead of chest thumping confidence. In other words they just enjoy the ride and hope for the best. Trash talk really isn't something we do, unless you are a Goofer or an Iowan (F**k Iowa). The tepid message board involvement is a product of that mindset. Hopefully there will be enough Badger fans at the game so you guys get a sense of the UW game day party.
re: Brief Wisco Breakdown
Posted by Johnkester59 on 8/22/14 at 12:43 am to LSUNV
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We have faced the top rated lineman in the country over the last few years. We are used to it.
No question. My post was just a response to the poster questioning our talent levels at O-line.
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