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re: Official AR-15 thread
Posted by rungunz on 7/30/16 at 9:16 am to Ace Midnight
I include the ALG triggers under "GI". Maybe I should have said "milspec", but I didn't want anyone to get their panties in a wad.
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re: Best AR under $1000...go!
Posted by rungunz on 7/29/16 at 9:17 pm to olgoi khorkhoi
Colt 6920
BFG Vickers QD
re: Official AR-15 thread
Posted by rungunz on 7/29/16 at 9:09 pm to BoogerNuts
RRA is junk.
No reason to put anything other than a GI trigger, unless you're shooting for groups or gaming.
No reason to put anything other than a GI trigger, unless you're shooting for groups or gaming.
re: I finally got all my stuff in for my AR, come take a look.
Posted by rungunz on 7/22/16 at 1:30 pm to Propagandalf
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This is like the 3rd thread where I've seen you insult everyone on this board.
Why are you here?
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Yes when I bought the rifle it was completely stock everything added on is aftermarket
Ignore the haters. I've browsed through this forum, and it's full of internet operators with shite guns and knowledge.
Despite how you've modified your rifle, you will learn what works and what doesn't.
Now, just shoot the shite out of it.
re: I finally got all my stuff in for my AR, come take a look.
Posted by rungunz on 7/21/16 at 8:50 pm to TigerBait2008
OP, did it start out as a stock 6920?
re: I finally got all my stuff in for my AR, come take a look.
Posted by rungunz on 7/21/16 at 2:10 pm to lsufan1971
The market is saturated with excellent options for the best prices we'll probably see for a loooooooong time.
You won't sell it.
You won't sell it.
re: Review on these ARs
Posted by rungunz on 7/21/16 at 1:06 am to ChatRabbit77
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You are talking to the guy that bought it because I am fan of the company. I have never made the claim that it is God's rifle or better than anything else. You don't know why I bought it and yet you claim you know why I did. I fully recognize that it isnt sprinkled with voodoo magic or that it does anything a BCM won't do. Hell, I even shite on the company sometime because they put a phosphated BCG in a $2600 gun when a nitrided one from their website is only $40 more than the phosphated. Also it doesn't come with a hard case. Also they put an ALG trigger in it instead of a Geissele.
Don't forget your DPMS LPK
re: I finally got all my stuff in for my AR, come take a look.
Posted by rungunz on 7/20/16 at 6:19 pm to ChatRabbit77
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Ah, the truth comes out. Happy you are able to admit that you hold yourself to lower standards than others.
You are clearly the product of the Louisiana public school system.
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Thats why I asked about it.
Roger that.
re: I finally got all my stuff in for my AR, come take a look.
Posted by rungunz on 7/20/16 at 6:04 pm to ChatRabbit77
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Well I was being sarcastic so...
No shite?
So was I ;)
Why would you pay $1500 for a no-name rifle?
For that money you could have a proven BCM or DD.
For that money you could have a proven BCM or DD.
re: I finally got all my stuff in for my AR, come take a look.
Posted by rungunz on 7/20/16 at 5:55 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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If you like it then rock that motherfricker bro
Yep. Rock it until it fails. Then we'll have a data point!
re: I finally got all my stuff in for my AR, come take a look.
Posted by rungunz on 7/20/16 at 5:54 pm to ChatRabbit77
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Like how you do?
That's my point
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Is it really that bad? I mean damn, I just got the Bitch in the mail 30 minutes ago. It has great reviews everywhere
Don't worry, he'll be back with hard data gathered from his extensive T&E of the product.
re: Question for Mini 14 owners
Posted by rungunz on 7/20/16 at 5:45 pm to Babewinkelman
An AR will be more accurate
re: HK SP5K release to the US market (Like the old SP89)
Posted by rungunz on 7/20/16 at 4:16 pm to ChatRabbit77
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I would rather get a 10mm one from Brethren Armament. That with a Rugged Obsidian or Dead Air Ghost would be amazing.
Brethren looks nice. Do they run well?
Cool for collectors.
Doesn't come with tri-lug or paddle.
I understand that it's German quality, but I'd rather buy an MKE/Zenith for $1500.
Doesn't come with tri-lug or paddle.
I understand that it's German quality, but I'd rather buy an MKE/Zenith for $1500.
If I have to explain that my recs are based on my opinion, then I think we have bigger problems.
This whole shite storm of a thread is based on opinion.
There are an infinitesimally small number of objective controlled "scientific" studies performed in the realm of firearms.
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Really? Explain why the military is only now moving away from Beretta M9's despite there being vastly superior products when it comes to cost, firepower, weight, functionality, reliability, and ergonomics. Has the military decided to disregard all of that this entire time, or are there politics involved in all of this?
OMG "RED HERRING"!
Politics are involved.
They were likely resistant to change due to the supply line of parts, etc.
LOL
Here's your "data":
1) E3 bolt
2) carbon cutter bolt carrier
3) dual spring ejector
4) ambi lower
5) rail system
6) pressure reduction system
7) lightweight barrel
8) quality control
9) reputable manufacturer who has been developing the SR-25 platform
Here's your "data":
1) E3 bolt
2) carbon cutter bolt carrier
3) dual spring ejector
4) ambi lower
5) rail system
6) pressure reduction system
7) lightweight barrel
8) quality control
9) reputable manufacturer who has been developing the SR-25 platform
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You call out a strawman and then pull a red herring.
How about you argue some of the points with actual data? No one here is saying you're wrong just for the sake of it - they're providing accessories and data points to back up their claims. They are making a much more compelling case than you. And the more you let your feelings get hurt, the less likely you are to win the argument.
Be objective and stop insulting people personally. That would be referred to as an "ad hominem" fallacy and would get the tally up to 3 total fallacies, which easily derails your argument.
What do you think justifies the price tag of the KAC? What specifically in the R&D makes it superior to guns costing much less? I have yet to see you answer this.
I have no dog in the fight because I don't know much about AR10s. It's just annoying to watch your critics bring facts and you bring nothing in return.
Red herring? Nope, it's merely an analogy.
Ad hominem? Where?
Data? I haven't seen any presented by someone else.
All I've gathered is "I'd rather buy a Nemo because I think it looks cooler, and I have assigned merit to a X Y and Z."
In my circle, I have experience with LMT, KAC, Larue, Armalite, DPMS, SCAR17. Out of those rifles, it is my opinion that the LMT and KAC offer more for my needs.
Thanks.
MA residents are too worried about exploiting their white privilege to do anything about it.
re: Review on these ARs
Posted by rungunz on 7/20/16 at 1:37 pm to ChatRabbit77
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Paying 4k+ for a rifle for it's bolt is fricken nuts. You have to be out of your damn mind if you think the bolt justifies the price.
Talk about strawman.
Please, tell me more about how that Noveske in your sig was worth $1,500 over an equivalent from BCM.
re: Review on these ARs
Posted by rungunz on 7/20/16 at 12:54 pm to ChatRabbit77
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It's definitely the URX rail forged from a log of God's feces that holds the absolute tightest tolerances of anything in the world. Or maybe its those nifty rail panels that make sure you can have a grip that cuts groups by .5 moa.
This is definitely it!re: Review on these ARs
Posted by rungunz on 7/20/16 at 12:53 pm to Carson123987
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However, this isn't just about accuracy. If I'm buying a semi-automatic rifle, I want something that I can beat to shite. I want a work horse, not a show pony.
You don't think a Daniel Defense or a Larue will run right there with a KAC?
Never said they wouldn't. I'm really referring to Nemo, which costs as much or more than a KAC. I'm not saying Nemo isn't durable, but I won't be taking my chances.
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I feel like some of you on this board have never heard of Google
trust us, we know you have
I guess you've learned everything you know about firearms from your deployments as an operator.
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If you think Brand X is as good as/better/looks cooler than something that is proven, then by all means go for it.
there's your strawman again. im still waiting on you to offer up your list of superior components in the SR25 (just the bolt won't cut it) that justify its absurd pricing.
If you don't think the E3 bolt is a significant improvement contributing to the increased price of admission, then you don't have to buy it.
re: Review on these ARs
Posted by rungunz on 7/20/16 at 12:40 pm to ChatRabbit77
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The vast majority of military contracts are awarded for a reason
Yeah. It's usually political bs and connections. I have family in the large arms contracting business and contracts are all political crap. Just because KAC has a contract does mean it's the best out there.
I agree that's why I said the majority.
Let's be honest with ourselves: Windham and Radical firearms wouldn't win any contracts.
I'm not basing KAC's superiority merely on contracts alone, but it is certainly something to consider in the big picture.
Who wins contracts? Colt, LMT, HK, KAC, FN, Glock...
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Name one thing I listed that is a gimmick or aesthetic.
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Nemo has a carbon fiber barrel, nickel boron bcg with recoil reduction system, free float keymod instead of the quadrail, Geissele 2 stage trigger, lightweight machined receivers, an actual muzzle brake instead of the A2 birdcage, cerakote finish, and adjustable gas block just to name a few things. In my opinion the fit and finish on Nemo's guns is hard to beat. I haven't seen the executive order in person yet, but it looks to be a work of art.
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Nemo does not even come close to the pedigree, R&D, and history of military contracts of KAC and LMT.
I agree with you on this versus a Nemo, but using that logic why would anybody buy an AR other than a Colt?
Because Colt does not offer a midlength gas system, and does not readily offer configurations other than plastic handguards + FSB.
re: Review on these ARs
Posted by rungunz on 7/20/16 at 12:30 pm to Carson123987
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no it's not. I could put together a rifle that shoots with similar accuracy for half the price. you're quoting pedigree (AKA name recognition), R&D (to justify the high price), and military contracts (just lol). those military contracts are why it's so fricking expensive. the price of an SR25 shouldn't exceed $2800-$3000 for what you get.
Why would you drop $5000 on an APC when you could spend $3000 on a rifle that's put together by GA Precision?
What components of the KAC are so much better than those of other quality AR-10s out right now? Don't just say "R&D"
To quote someone more knowledgable than me: "No dude is going to get shot in the chest at 300 yards and look down and say 'What is that, a 3 MOA group?'"
Sure, if you just want to sit on a bench and shoot for groups, most anything with a "match grade" barrel will be fine.
However, this isn't just about accuracy. If I'm buying a semi-automatic rifle, I want something that I can beat to shite. I want a work horse, not a show pony.
I'm not sure if you're aware of the enhance functionality and durability of the KAC E3 bolt.
The vast majority of military contracts are awarded for a reason, and those reasons are never "Gee, the milling on that lower receiver matches my purse!".
I feel like some of you on this board have never heard of Google. I'm at work and I'm not going to link or write about the R&D of KAC at this time.
If you think Brand X is as good as/better/looks cooler than something that is proven, then by all means go for it.
re: Review on these ARs
Posted by rungunz on 7/20/16 at 12:06 pm to Carson123987
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both are pretty overpriced, much like the Nemo.
SR25 is living on name at this point. the civilian pricing is an utter joke. they used to be the only good AR10 out and charge a hefty premium due to their contracts. id like to have one, but id never pay that much for one.
You're joking right?
The cost of R&D to develop and refine the SR-25 is passed on to the end user.
The latest iteration of the SR-25 (APC, ACC, etc,) is lightyears ahead of its "competitors".
As I always say, "It's your money; do as you please".
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