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How Golden State's failure is key to our success
Posted by Ruler1 on 6/8/19 at 1:54 am
We all agree that Boston's assets trumps all competitors that are bidding in the Anthony Davis sweepstakes. Problem is, with Kyrie's free agency uncertainty, many beg the question will Boston be willing to pony up their treasure chest of assets with the risk of losing AD in the following summer due to the departure of Irving
Golden State's failure is key because it increases the likelihood of Durant staying put in the Bay Area
See Durant loves the GS organization; he loves their play style and meshes well - for the most part - with the personalities that make up their roster. GS is the perfect franchise for his team oriented personality and under ideal circumstances, he would never entertain leaving.
Problem is, since joining GS, KD has been heavily disrespected and his peak achievements (championships, finals mvps) minimized due to joining an all time great team at the time
Any all-time great player who have accomplished what KD has in recent years would expect to be respected and admired at the minimum - instead, he's experienced the opposite
Now with GS current struggles without KD in the finals, it changes the narrative and highlights KD's value and necessity and illustrates his importance to the Warriors. Something he's always desired since coming to the Bay Area; a since of belonging, and now he's about to have it
This new narrative imo, is what will motivate him and give cover, if you will, to return to the GS Warriors.
This potential decision has a direct link to our desired result: a confidant, emboldened , Wheeling and dealin Danny Ainge.
Let me explain...
See, other then AD, Durant is the only one imo, who has the star power to lure Kyrie to another team. So if I'm Ainge, who's in this pressure cooker of a situation who's looking to make a big franchise altering decision to better position his team for winning championships in the future, but see a few potential pitfalls as he surveys the NBA landscape that can potentially set the franchise back many years and put them back in another rebuild process; if I'm him, I'm looking for any sign or indication that suggest a trade for AD will not result in a disaster - i.e. Kyrie leaving, which would increase the likelihood of AD bolting the following season and leaving me empty handed with a lost of assets.
One of those signs are GS's failure without Durant.
See if Boston makes the trade with NO, it would be prior to the NBA draft, at least in principle; being that draft picks will be involved and NO will want to choose their own players, although Boston will be the one selecting. This scenario with kyrie's uncertainty exposes Boston to significant risk. But as I've said, with GS's failure without Durant, it significantly reduces risk to trade for Ad because it increases the likelihood of KD staying put in the Bay, which takes away incentive for Kyrie to sign elsewhere, be it Brooklyn or NY Knicks without having a tier 1 star to team up with. Essentially leaving him we no other sensible option but to resign with the new retooled Anthony Davis included roster; along with a 220 plus million contract.
This NBA finals has the potential to further embolden Danny Ainge in his pursuit of his dream target, Anthony Davis. Not to mention the effect of the gamble on the part of Toronto in the trade of Kawhi Leonard and how that move looks to be paying off in a potential championship.
All these things imo are circling in the mind of Ainge, and are greatly contributing to him going all in this summer in the Anthony Davis sweepstakes
And obviously that's good for us
Golden State's failure is key because it increases the likelihood of Durant staying put in the Bay Area
See Durant loves the GS organization; he loves their play style and meshes well - for the most part - with the personalities that make up their roster. GS is the perfect franchise for his team oriented personality and under ideal circumstances, he would never entertain leaving.
Problem is, since joining GS, KD has been heavily disrespected and his peak achievements (championships, finals mvps) minimized due to joining an all time great team at the time
Any all-time great player who have accomplished what KD has in recent years would expect to be respected and admired at the minimum - instead, he's experienced the opposite
Now with GS current struggles without KD in the finals, it changes the narrative and highlights KD's value and necessity and illustrates his importance to the Warriors. Something he's always desired since coming to the Bay Area; a since of belonging, and now he's about to have it
This new narrative imo, is what will motivate him and give cover, if you will, to return to the GS Warriors.
This potential decision has a direct link to our desired result: a confidant, emboldened , Wheeling and dealin Danny Ainge.
Let me explain...
See, other then AD, Durant is the only one imo, who has the star power to lure Kyrie to another team. So if I'm Ainge, who's in this pressure cooker of a situation who's looking to make a big franchise altering decision to better position his team for winning championships in the future, but see a few potential pitfalls as he surveys the NBA landscape that can potentially set the franchise back many years and put them back in another rebuild process; if I'm him, I'm looking for any sign or indication that suggest a trade for AD will not result in a disaster - i.e. Kyrie leaving, which would increase the likelihood of AD bolting the following season and leaving me empty handed with a lost of assets.
One of those signs are GS's failure without Durant.
See if Boston makes the trade with NO, it would be prior to the NBA draft, at least in principle; being that draft picks will be involved and NO will want to choose their own players, although Boston will be the one selecting. This scenario with kyrie's uncertainty exposes Boston to significant risk. But as I've said, with GS's failure without Durant, it significantly reduces risk to trade for Ad because it increases the likelihood of KD staying put in the Bay, which takes away incentive for Kyrie to sign elsewhere, be it Brooklyn or NY Knicks without having a tier 1 star to team up with. Essentially leaving him we no other sensible option but to resign with the new retooled Anthony Davis included roster; along with a 220 plus million contract.
This NBA finals has the potential to further embolden Danny Ainge in his pursuit of his dream target, Anthony Davis. Not to mention the effect of the gamble on the part of Toronto in the trade of Kawhi Leonard and how that move looks to be paying off in a potential championship.
All these things imo are circling in the mind of Ainge, and are greatly contributing to him going all in this summer in the Anthony Davis sweepstakes
And obviously that's good for us
Take Smart out. You're wasting your time including him in hypotheticals that will never materialize. Replace him with Jalen Brown and you'll be closer to reality
re: Fletcher’s source says AD to Boston
Posted by Ruler1 on 6/7/19 at 2:38 pm to FMtTXtiger
No they will not have to do it. Boston know NO will not turn down a package of Tatum, Brown, picks etc. NO most certainly want Smart, but Boston will not give him up. He's too important to the team's culture; and they won't have to, due to other assets
No, it is extremely likely that we will get both Tatum and Brown. It's actually guaranteed. One reason why is because the Celtics are going to refuse to give up Smart -- watch and see -- we will NOT get Smart whatsoever. The value of Smart to the Celtics is astronomical. They will not part with him
re: Woj: Hawks - Nets Trade
Posted by Ruler1 on 6/6/19 at 5:38 pm to Unknown_Poster
Agreed
re: Official AD Trade Thread - 6/4 - Griff is fielding offers
Posted by Ruler1 on 6/4/19 at 5:04 pm to TigerinATL
Also legacy. Who wouldn't want to be able to say after they retire that they mentored and player with a mega superstar in Zion
re: Official AD Trade Thread - 6/4 - Griff is fielding offers
Posted by Ruler1 on 6/4/19 at 5:00 pm to LosLobos111
I would not be surprised. Especially if Jrue is traded
Unfortunately for him, once Ainge put all the required chips on the table, those teams won't be the preferred destinations for Griff/Langden
re: Official AD Trade Thread - 6/4 - Griff is fielding offers
Posted by Ruler1 on 6/4/19 at 3:03 pm to longhorn22
What are those signs you speaks of? Rumors???
Also, you and others are looking at this upside down.
If Ainge brings in AD (and he will) Kyrie will not leave that situation
Kyrie is not leaving the ability to play with AD, 220 plus mil contract, and a storied franchise behind. Not gonna happen
Ainge is about surprise a lotta people.
Everyone thinks this decision relies on Kyrie. Nope
Ainge is confident Kyrie will not walk away from a roster that includes Anthony Davis
People are making this more complicated then it should be
Acquisition of AD = Kyrie staying
Ainge has been preparing for this moment for years. He is all in - all chips on the table
Also, with Giannis, Embid and possibly Kawhi in the East for years to come, AD is the only realistic option, coupled with Kyrie, for the Celtics to compete for championships in the new East
Ainge will not allow AD to land in his backyard (NY, BRKLYN) or their historical rival (Lakers) and lure Kyrie with him without a fight. And when it comes to assets, that's a fight he can win. - and he shall by any means.
Ainge has been lusting after AD's talent and skill set since he came into the league and now is his moment to attain his most prize possession, his one true love, Anthony Davis. You better believe he's ready to pounce and is ready to pull the trigger. He's even gone so far as to develop a dossier concerning AD -- talk about obsessive
Do not doubt the Celtics' desperation. They want to compete for championships now; and they view AD is their solution.
Sit back and watch this outcome materialize. The blind LA/NY biased media won't see it coming
Also, you and others are looking at this upside down.
If Ainge brings in AD (and he will) Kyrie will not leave that situation
Kyrie is not leaving the ability to play with AD, 220 plus mil contract, and a storied franchise behind. Not gonna happen
Ainge is about surprise a lotta people.
Everyone thinks this decision relies on Kyrie. Nope
Ainge is confident Kyrie will not walk away from a roster that includes Anthony Davis
People are making this more complicated then it should be
Acquisition of AD = Kyrie staying
Ainge has been preparing for this moment for years. He is all in - all chips on the table
Also, with Giannis, Embid and possibly Kawhi in the East for years to come, AD is the only realistic option, coupled with Kyrie, for the Celtics to compete for championships in the new East
Ainge will not allow AD to land in his backyard (NY, BRKLYN) or their historical rival (Lakers) and lure Kyrie with him without a fight. And when it comes to assets, that's a fight he can win. - and he shall by any means.
Ainge has been lusting after AD's talent and skill set since he came into the league and now is his moment to attain his most prize possession, his one true love, Anthony Davis. You better believe he's ready to pounce and is ready to pull the trigger. He's even gone so far as to develop a dossier concerning AD -- talk about obsessive
Do not doubt the Celtics' desperation. They want to compete for championships now; and they view AD is their solution.
Sit back and watch this outcome materialize. The blind LA/NY biased media won't see it coming
Will be rerouted at some point for more assets
Nah, a lot people are expecting Smart to be in the deal. They are mistaken
Many also believe we won't get both Tatum and Brown. They are also mistaken
Also, I'm speaking in absolutes. This outcome is 100 percent certain
Just like a said Jrue will be traded at some point this year - also 100 percent certain
Therein lies the difference... I've already seen the outcome, therefore I can speak in absolutes, unlike others
I know I'll be mocked in the meantime, but because I know in the end I will be right and proven correct, I'm willing to make such predictions
Also, I just get a kick out telling the future before it happens and seeing it manifest just as I saw it
Many also believe we won't get both Tatum and Brown. They are also mistaken
Also, I'm speaking in absolutes. This outcome is 100 percent certain
Just like a said Jrue will be traded at some point this year - also 100 percent certain
Therein lies the difference... I've already seen the outcome, therefore I can speak in absolutes, unlike others
I know I'll be mocked in the meantime, but because I know in the end I will be right and proven correct, I'm willing to make such predictions
Also, I just get a kick out telling the future before it happens and seeing it manifest just as I saw it
AD is headed to Boston
Incoming: Tatum, Brown picks etc.
Will NOT get Smart
This outcome 1000% guaranteed
You heard it here first
Oh, also, Brown will NOT be here long term
Incoming: Tatum, Brown picks etc.
Will NOT get Smart
This outcome 1000% guaranteed
You heard it here first
Oh, also, Brown will NOT be here long term
quote:
Would #6 and Mikal Bridges interest many here?
This is what I hope will happen.
Take Coby White with the 6th pick, bring in Mikal Bridges, who projects to be an elite 3 and D player, as well as their Bucks' pick next draft.
Would be perfectly happy with this result
re: Suns, Bulls reportedly offering lottery picks for Lonzo Ball
Posted by Ruler1 on 6/2/19 at 4:07 pm to yaboidarrell
Would love to acquire the 6th pick to get Coby White
He's the most slept on in the top ten who will prove to be better than some picked before him
Coby and Zion in transition would be electric. Hope we get em
He's the most slept on in the top ten who will prove to be better than some picked before him
Coby and Zion in transition would be electric. Hope we get em
re: SGA a young Penny Hardaway?
Posted by Ruler1 on 5/28/19 at 11:27 pm to BayouRat15
Man I wish we could acquire SGA without trading AD. I'm not sure they would even accept Jrue for 'em. His upside is so high
A core of SGA, Tatum and Zion would be amazing.
A core of SGA, Tatum and Zion would be amazing.
Lol. Spoken like a true idiot.
There have been scientific discoveries/inventions made from dreams.
Go tell the scientists, inventors their discoveries have no credibility due to its source
You sound like a fool. Go to bed, u don't know enough
I was the only one that knew the season was gonna be a disaster before it even began, simply do to dreams. Try again
There have been scientific discoveries/inventions made from dreams.
Go tell the scientists, inventors their discoveries have no credibility due to its source
You sound like a fool. Go to bed, u don't know enough
I was the only one that knew the season was gonna be a disaster before it even began, simply do to dreams. Try again
re: The future of Jrue Holiday on this team
Posted by Ruler1 on 5/28/19 at 6:49 pm to Hester Carries
Let's see if ur gonna be laughing when the trade for ur precious Jrue materializes
That's an external perception of him. That's not how he sees himself
re: The future of Jrue Holiday on this team
Posted by Ruler1 on 5/28/19 at 6:41 pm to BayouRat15
Phoenix: #6 pick/player and another future first
Clippers: SGA plus future first(s)
It would have to be in the ballpark of this imo
Clippers: SGA plus future first(s)
It would have to be in the ballpark of this imo
Ty Lou views himself as a championship coach, which he is
Asking him to become an assistant is like asking an Oscar winner to play in a daily soap opera -- not gonna happen. The ego won't allow it
Asking him to become an assistant is like asking an Oscar winner to play in a daily soap opera -- not gonna happen. The ego won't allow it
re: The future of Jrue Holiday on this team
Posted by Ruler1 on 5/28/19 at 6:15 pm to roguepelican
Precognitive abilities, logic, and reason all have their place. All coexist
re: The future of Jrue Holiday on this team
Posted by Ruler1 on 5/28/19 at 6:02 pm to GynoSandberg
Exactly and well said.
I love Jrue, but people act like Jrue is the anointed one, like he can't be moved -- Jrue is not untouchable
Since May 14 this team has become Zion's team; and every future decision that will be made, will be made with him in mind, not Jrue. This team will be built around Zion; and after u trade AD for picks/young players, u must test the market for Jrue to see what type assets u can fetch for him; and if u find a deal u love u do it. Simple. U can always find vets to bring in to help the young ones along
Potentially trading Jrue is not some insane, out of this world crazy idea some are making it out to be.
People have to take their emotions out of it and think objectively
I love Jrue, but people act like Jrue is the anointed one, like he can't be moved -- Jrue is not untouchable
Since May 14 this team has become Zion's team; and every future decision that will be made, will be made with him in mind, not Jrue. This team will be built around Zion; and after u trade AD for picks/young players, u must test the market for Jrue to see what type assets u can fetch for him; and if u find a deal u love u do it. Simple. U can always find vets to bring in to help the young ones along
Potentially trading Jrue is not some insane, out of this world crazy idea some are making it out to be.
People have to take their emotions out of it and think objectively
re: The future of Jrue Holiday on this team
Posted by Ruler1 on 5/27/19 at 1:45 pm to tigersquad89
Just trying to prepare you all for the future.
Some of u guys are way too emotional.
After AD is traded, it's very possible that the FO may consider trading Jrue, especially since we got Zion. An 18 year old phenom who is the future of this franchise whose timeline is way far apart from Jrue.
Langdon talked about building slow, forming a culture and winning not being a priority at this stage. Jrue being traded is a plausible outcome that should be considered.
Jrue is almost 30 years old and his value is at all time high. If there is a player u see in the draft that can be foundational that u can pair with Zion for years to come, u must consider it.
Jrue is not a top 5 player. It's not out of question of him being traded if u can get back a high draft pick for a player u think can be star with Zion for the future.
After AD is traded, it's very possible that the FO may consider trading Jrue, especially since we got Zion. An 18 year old phenom who is the future of this franchise whose timeline is way far apart from Jrue.
Langdon talked about building slow, forming a culture and winning not being a priority at this stage. Jrue being traded is a plausible outcome that should be considered.
Jrue is almost 30 years old and his value is at all time high. If there is a player u see in the draft that can be foundational that u can pair with Zion for years to come, u must consider it.
Jrue is not a top 5 player. It's not out of question of him being traded if u can get back a high draft pick for a player u think can be star with Zion for the future.
Lol I Don't do drugs
The future of Jrue Holiday on this team
Posted by Ruler1 on 5/27/19 at 12:40 pm
Just wanted to let us guys know that Jrue's presence on this team could be coming to an end, as crazy as that may sound
I had a dream the other night that Langdon shockingly traded Jrue for draft picks
You all may or may not scoff and mock at the idea of dreams revealing the future, but keep in mind, just before the start of 2018-19 season I had a dream that the season was going to be a disaster and in another dream AD said "it's over" (which I regret not posting at the time, hence the reason why I post every dream I have now that pertains to the team) my dreams tend to be very accurate
So my question to you all, assuming this inevitable(and I believe it is), what trade package would be acceptable for giving up Jrue? And how would you feel about the new FO trading Jrue after mentioning him as a foundational player for this team. Although that was prior to Trajan Langdon becoming the GM
Do u think it's the right move to go all in now to build the core of the future?
Look forward to ur responses
I had a dream the other night that Langdon shockingly traded Jrue for draft picks
You all may or may not scoff and mock at the idea of dreams revealing the future, but keep in mind, just before the start of 2018-19 season I had a dream that the season was going to be a disaster and in another dream AD said "it's over" (which I regret not posting at the time, hence the reason why I post every dream I have now that pertains to the team) my dreams tend to be very accurate
So my question to you all, assuming this inevitable(and I believe it is), what trade package would be acceptable for giving up Jrue? And how would you feel about the new FO trading Jrue after mentioning him as a foundational player for this team. Although that was prior to Trajan Langdon becoming the GM
Do u think it's the right move to go all in now to build the core of the future?
Look forward to ur responses
re: Hoping we trade ad to the Celtics
Posted by Ruler1 on 5/22/19 at 3:35 pm to rallyTiger
We're not getting smart.
re: Trajan Langdon named new GM
Posted by Ruler1 on 5/19/19 at 3:19 pm to TigerinATL
quote:quote:
Langdon’s reputation and background in scouting make him the perfect person to help discover the right role players to put around a star.
Amen!! My thoughts exactly
He's a valuable asset. Will be resigned. Can be be traded later for more assets
AD is not staying. Guaranteed!!
He will be traded this summer to the Celtics for Tatum, Brown etc, but not Smart
I'm telling you all the future and I'm guaranteed to be right
Anyone saying otherwise is just guessing
Also, Jaylen Brown will not stay long term when he comes
Also, we resigned Resigned Randle around 20 mil.
I've told u guys the future. Can't say u didn't know
All revealed through multiple dreams
Remember, precognition is superior to sources and educated guesses
He will be traded this summer to the Celtics for Tatum, Brown etc, but not Smart
I'm telling you all the future and I'm guaranteed to be right
Anyone saying otherwise is just guessing
Also, Jaylen Brown will not stay long term when he comes
Also, we resigned Resigned Randle around 20 mil.
I've told u guys the future. Can't say u didn't know
All revealed through multiple dreams
Remember, precognition is superior to sources and educated guesses
re: Morant or Tatum
Posted by Ruler1 on 4/18/19 at 7:22 pm to FMtTXtiger
There's no way Phoenix would part with Morant. He would fill the final peace to their young core. In contrast, I don't think any assets we currently have or could attain(outside of Zion) would appeal to them
In that scenario Pelicans in all likelihood would draft Bpa - which imo would be Rj
In that scenario Pelicans in all likelihood would draft Bpa - which imo would be Rj
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