“Tariffs on steel have cost American consumers hundreds of billions now in higher cost steel from domestic steel manufacturer who raised their prices since their competitors where higher priced and from the tariffs on all the foreign imports of steel from worldwide steel producing countries.“

You will have to show me some specific examples of where Americans are paying more for steel. How am I paying more? For what products? I admit that I don’t know anything about the steel industry but I CAN tell you that our local steel mill has hired more people within the last year and I can name specific examples of families who are doing better -financially -than ever before. If this is temporary, I would like for you to explain how so. It’s not that I don’t believe you, it’s that I am not knowledgeable in this area.

2.) China cannot support itself. They need us more than we need them. My family grows rice and soybeans in the south U.S. We also have a flower shop (which has often turned more profit than the farm!) The flower shop will be affected by tariffs on Chinese goods. We will not have all the plastic cheap arse containers and vases that we usually offer. The selection will be more limited than before. Price won’t change that much and quality will remain the same. Any losses have already been offset by lower taxes and relaxed regulations. (We love Donald Trump, btw.)

We have never been able to sell our rice or soybeans to China. Not without subsidies and/or strings attached. Our biggest buyers were Cuba 1960s-70s (exports are now banned), Iran 1960s-70s (exports are now banned), Iraq (no longer existent). All 196070s.
I understand the importance of free trade more than you realize. I understand how foreign policy affects free trade. But the truth is that China buys Chinese rice. It’s cheaper. Their farmers are poorer. Local stuff is always cheaper. Some Chinese groups believe that Chinese rice is purer. Are they wrong for believing that something they produce from their soil is better than ours? No. So what.

We can grow enough crops to feed ourselves. We don’t have to grow rice and soybeans. China cannot feed itself. Period.
But WE CAN. Do you understand the leverage we have? We have enough oil, coal, and natural gas to power ourselves for over 200 years. Where will China get its food, its energy?

We currently have several trillion dollars in national debt—a lot of which is owned by China. We need to pay that debt down and become strong again. We cannot sustain ourselves with 50% of our people on welfare.

Sometimes in a nation’s history, it is necessary to pull back and take care of business AT HOME. This world will implode without the USA. We are now in a predicament where we need to save ourselves. Yes, that may very well look like protectionism or isolationism. But it is a temporary necessity to our survival.

I completely agree with you on pulling out of Syria and the Middle East for the same reasons stated above.

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re: Onoz guys! TRUMP has really done it this time!

Posted by StormyDanielson on 1/3/19 at 9:29 pm to Seldom Seen

Who the frick cares? Half the guys in south Louisiana are bald. It’s a thing.

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re: “Open” investigations ARE the Swamp’s protective firewall.

Posted by StormyDanielson on 1/3/19 at 9:26 pm to NC_Tigah

But we don’t have the courts on our side yet. They have slow walked his appointments since the inauguration.

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re: “Open” investigations ARE the Swamp’s protective firewall.

Posted by StormyDanielson on 1/3/19 at 9:24 pm to 225bred

No but I’m a female who watched too many Karate Kid sequels.

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re: I Love The Government Shutdown. In Fact, I Want Annual Furloughs (No, They Don’t Get Paid)

Posted by StormyDanielson on 1/3/19 at 9:21 pm to LuckyTiger

I love the shutdown too!

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re: Now that Wall is Dead...

Posted by StormyDanielson on 1/3/19 at 9:17 pm to BamaAtl

I disagree. Most people aren’t affected by a shhhhhhut down! Most of us could go on forever and it would make zero difference in our lives. Of course, this may change with time but this is a partial shhhhhhut down and nobody gives a frick.

I want him to stand his ground. He has already caved/compromised enough. The ball us in the Democrats’ court. They own what happens next. Remember: President Trump has nothing to lose. He can resign tomorrow and go buy an island somewhere. He isn’t obligated to any lobbyists or special interests. He is in it to win it.

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re: “Open” investigations ARE the Swamp’s protective firewall.

Posted by StormyDanielson on 1/3/19 at 3:33 pm to YankeeBama

They were fired or forced out but all of them get to keep their pensions. Millions of OUR dollars. The only reason they are gone is because the FBI and DOJ are trying to preserve the public’s trust in their institutions. Prosecuting them will expose the entirety of the corruption. Think of how many people are in our prisons. The Swamp’s point of view is that prosecution of their own would open too huge of a can of worms. There would be riots and a nationwide call for the dismantling of these agencies. (I want this to happen. We need to start all over again. Our federal justice system no longer serves us. It serves itself.)

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“Open” investigations ARE the Swamp’s protective firewall.

Posted by StormyDanielson on 1/3/19 at 3:08 pm

The Mueller investigation will likely continue. We will never see a conclusion of the investigation into the Clinton Foundation (which has been going on since 2016 and earlier.) Here’s why: As long as these investigations are ongoing, 1.) They can accuse/charge Trump with obstruction if he declassifies any relevant documents. This is their leverage over his power to declassify and it is the reason he hasn’t done it. 2). They can legally refuse to answer any relevant questions in hearings, interviews, etc. This is why so many of them (Comey, McCabe, Strzok, etc.) replied with “I can’t answer questions about an ongoing investigation” and “I’m sorry but that’s classified” and “I can’t answer that because it risks national security”, etc, etc, ETC!

See how that works? The Swamp is using legal process and procedure to protect themselves from exposure.

Do NOT kid yourselves into hoping or believing that good people (white hats) are working feverishly on any ongoing investigation into any of “their own.” They may have several open investigations but they are sitting on them and running out the clock. Prove me wrong. I would love to be wrong.

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