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re: 18/20 members of Facebook fact checking board tied to Soros
Posted by 451 on 8/13/20 at 8:24 am to RoscoeSanCarlos
quote:Ill do you one better, Ill tell you I think its dumb to cancel the CFB season, and that the players are safer in a controlled environment where theyre being tested regularly. Its being cancelled because of liability concerns, not the facts as we now know them. Travel is still an issue, I have no idea how to space people out effectively for that, but if there is a way theres no reason not to play.
Prove to me that you know about sports by telling us where the 4 hole is?
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re: Send Fox a message
Posted by 451 on 8/13/20 at 7:50 am to Snazzmeister
quote:good lord, finally someone who at least knows how to do a proper insult, thank you, its like the right doesn't even know how to argue anymore.
Go help your friends burn down another city then come back and lecture us again on how to act when people disagree with us.
quote:oh good lord, I didnt mean you personally, I meant the people defending this system.
Where have I complained about this dumbass?
re: Send Fox a message
Posted by 451 on 8/13/20 at 7:21 am to NineLineBind
quote:yes of course, Im with you on that 100 percent, anything to the contrary should never even be an option.
No one argues against paying “any” taxes. But wouldn’t it be nice to determine, as a people, where the dollars are spent? And actually have clarity of goal and accountability? Washington DC has become a giant black hole gobbling up everything that everyone produces or earns. Therein lies our loss of freedom.
quote:then stop complaining that the numbers are wrong and all biased against you. you cant insist on using this system and then say the system sucks when it doesnt tell you what you want to hear.
This is totally backwards. A centralized system is much less efficient than localized systems at the state level. States running things with Federal support (which is what is happening) is the best way to do things.
re: The Democrats are principally running on COVID is ALL Trump's fault!
Posted by 451 on 8/13/20 at 7:14 am to concrete_tiger
quote:by all means, go right ahead and do that. go right down the list, do every single one, go crazy.
A good way to find out is to “search up” his messages to see where he is copying and pasting from, or where he is running back to his comrades.
re: Send Fox a message
Posted by 451 on 8/13/20 at 7:10 am to Snazzmeister
quote:Im not the one who screams "fake news" every time I dont get my way. man up and handle your shite.
Oh irony, you fickle queen.
re: Send Fox a message
Posted by 451 on 8/13/20 at 7:07 am to SCLibertarian
quote:honest question: I see some version of this a lot here, seems to be a big theme with the maga crowd, but then you(*) also defend the super rich at every turn whenever theyre criticized. you all hate Jeff Bezos, but god forbid he pay any taxes.
They're the mouthpiece of the ruling elite
youre living in a fantasy world if you think Im a fan of the "ruling elite", I want to hold them accountable, why dont you?
(*) I dont mean "you" personally of course, Im just asking your side. Or maybe Im way off, if so tell me, I come to this board to avoid an echo chamber of my own
quote:what? no, youre missing the point. the point is theyre not proving you wrong, theyre not out to get you, its not them vs you.
OK so if all those mentioned above prove it is us unwashed Wal-Mart shopping deplorables that are wrong...
quote:he lost by 3 million votes dude
...than why did Trump trounce that skank Hillary in 2016 and could win again in 2020?
quote:no it just proves that the media is not actually out to get you. if the entire media really was conspiring to shred trump, he'd be shredded.
So if we go along with your view those above were proven wrong not us, right?
Im not saying there is no bias at any time anywhere, and Im not saying they never get anything wrong, you can obviously find and magnify lots of examples of both if thats what you choose to do, but this thing where you just dismiss everything you dont like as "fake news" is not healthy dude. grown men dont just stamp their feet and pout when something goes wrong.
quote:I posted data straight from Facebook, if that doesn't fit your conspiracy theory then I dont know what to tell you. what happened to "facts not feelings"?
This is the time where the prog shills coming out like roaches.
Do your DU buddies tip their pussy hats to you after you tell them about your day posting here?
quote:or Im just a progressive.
You registered on 8/9 and every single one of yours posts are on the poli board peddling progressive bull shite. You’re either an alter or a paid troll.
stop being so mentally weak, its pathetic, man up and step outside your safe space, if you even can at this point.
re: Send Fox a message
Posted by 451 on 8/13/20 at 6:19 am to LuckyTiger
quote:
If you don’t think the overwhelming volume of media coverage is very biased then there’s no point discussing anything with you. Get real. The damage is permanent.
if you know 10 people, and 9 of them think youre a count, the problem isnt them, its you.
"Sundance" from Treehouse tells you what you want to hear so he's legit but Fox, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, The NYT, Washington Post, LA Times, USA Today, BBC, Sky News, Politico, Vice, Vox, The Hill, Time, Newsweek, BI, Rolling Stone, BuzzFeed, Huff Post, Reddit, Twitter, and Facebook are all out to get you?
this is not mentally healthy dude, Im begging you to open your eyes.
how fringe does your world have to be before you connect the dots on this?
how small does your echo chamber have to get before you start to wonder if maybe the problem is you?
so its now Fox, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, The NYT, Washington Post, LA Times, USA Today, BBC, Sky News, Politico, Vice, Vox, The Hill, Time, Newsweek, BI, Rolling Stone, BuzzFeed, Huff Post, Reddit, Twitter, and Facebook that all are crazy, and youre down to some blogs written under pseudonyms and a "news" network openly cheers trump and craves his approval
how small does your echo chamber have to get before you start to wonder if maybe the problem is you?
so its now Fox, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, The NYT, Washington Post, LA Times, USA Today, BBC, Sky News, Politico, Vice, Vox, The Hill, Time, Newsweek, BI, Rolling Stone, BuzzFeed, Huff Post, Reddit, Twitter, and Facebook that all are crazy, and youre down to some blogs written under pseudonyms and a "news" network openly cheers trump and craves his approval
re: Is it a prerequisite in order to be a Dim you must be a liar?
Posted by 451 on 8/12/20 at 10:23 pm to Bass Tiger
quote:
Many Dims in Congress were getting the same briefings as Trump but they were not concerned
you sure about that?
quote:
Women will vote for a guy they don’t like, so long as they think he will protect them from the bad guys and is good with money.
Women will absolutely NOT vote for a woman they don’t like.
hillary is fricking awful, no one liked her.
and she still beat trump by 13 percent.
try to actually win the female vote for once, then give advice. trump was underwater with women 2 to 1 even before Harris got the nod, and this is the poll people here are calling "good news".
those three categories at the bottom arent exactly the most flattering thing in the world either.
those three categories at the bottom arent exactly the most flattering thing in the world either.
quote:no, actually he put someone in place that is removing the sorting machines so it has to be done by hand now. to make it as slow as possible.
Trump must’ve put someone in place to attempt to block their efforts at mail in voting
and someone with 30M+ invested in rival shipping and logistics companies, like UPS and XPO.
and someone who was hastily appointed in May when it became clear we'd need mail-in voting.
so yeah all this is perfectly normal, youre all good Americans for cheering this on.
quote:
They may be the most inefficient government agency.
literally the most popular federal agency by a clear margin, but yeah I get it, maga doesnt want Americans to vote. trump lost the popular vote last time, has never been above 50 percent in any poll in the 4 years since, and is losing badly in every poll now. so just suppress votes. like Putin does. thats what a good American would do, right?
re: Is it a prerequisite in order to be a Dim you must be a liar?
Posted by 451 on 8/12/20 at 8:23 pm to Bass Tiger
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not one mention of the US Senate and Congress sitting on their hands in January and February when they should have been working with the White House to prepare for impending pandemic
hahaha, holy shite. yeah, its too bad the democrats didn't work with trump in saying it will all go magically away in the sunshine
Jan. 22 (first case confirmed in US)
"We have it totally under control. It's one person coming in from China. We have it under control. It's going to be just fine."
Jan. 24 (2 cases confirmed)
Jan. 30 (7 cases confirmed, WHO declares it a global health emergency)
"We think we have it very well under control. We have very little problem in this country at this moment — five — and those people are all recuperating successfully. But we're working very closely with China and other countries, and we think it's going to have a very good ending for us … that I can assure you."
Feb. 7 (11 confirmed cases)
Feb. 10 (12 confirmed cases)
"I had a long talk with President Xi — for the people in this room — two nights ago, and he feels very confident. He feels very confident. And he feels that, again, as I mentioned, by April or during the month of April, the heat, generally speaking, kills this kind of virus."
Feb. 23 (51 confirmed cases)
"We're very much involved. We're very — very cognizant of everything going on. We have it very much under control in this country."
Feb. 24 (51 confirmed cases)
Feb. 25 (57 confirmed cases)
"You may ask about the coronavirus, which is very well under control in our country. We have very few people with it, and the people that have it are - in all cases, I have not heard anything other."
Feb. 26 (58 confirmed cases)
"And again, when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done."
Feb. 27 (60 confirmed cases)
"It's going to disappear. One day it's like a miracle, it will disappear."
Feb. 29 (74 confirmed cases)
"And we've done a great job. And I've gotten to know these professionals. They're incredible. And everything is under control. I mean, they're very, very cool. They've done it, and they've done it well. Everything is really under control."
re: Today was an absolute embarrassment regarding state covid data reporting
Posted by 451 on 8/12/20 at 8:00 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
quote:normally I would agree but when you have something that effects every state, and its something they need to coordinate on as fast as they possible can, it needs to be federal. its not like the the COVID in Texas has a cowboy hat or some shite, its the same in Florida as it is in Maine.
Ugh. frick any answer that is “Fed gov needs to do it”
re: Today was an absolute embarrassment regarding state covid data reporting
Posted by 451 on 8/12/20 at 7:52 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
gosh maybe we should have a federal testing and tracing program.
maybe if we had 1 program instead of 50 that might help streamline things.
its too bad no one has been screaming about that for 8 months but oh well, nothing you can do I guess.
maybe if we had 1 program instead of 50 that might help streamline things.
its too bad no one has been screaming about that for 8 months but oh well, nothing you can do I guess.
re: The Democrats are principally running on COVID is ALL Trump's fault!
Posted by 451 on 8/12/20 at 7:48 pm to RazorBroncs
quote:I cant even begin to tell you how unimpressive it is to see comments like this. its so weak, I dont know how you live with yourself.
Alter, or paid shill?
re: The Democrats are principally running on COVID is ALL Trump's fault!
Posted by 451 on 8/12/20 at 7:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:oh gosh gee I dont know, how about a federal testing and tracing program. how about that for starters. how about we have 1 program to test and trace instead of 50. you think that might help streamline things any, and help get us better data? after 8 months of a global pandemic is that too much to ask for?
what are your purported better policies? when should they have been enacted?
re: Liberal Reporter on Kamala Harris VP Selection: 'A Nightmarishly Bad Pick in Every Way'
Posted by 451 on 8/12/20 at 7:12 pm to Frank Black
ya'll sittin here acting like you agree with a guy from the young turks. he's not mad for the reasons you want him to be.
re: The Democrats are principally running on COVID is ALL Trump's fault!
Posted by 451 on 8/12/20 at 6:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:dude if you want to say Europe super failed go right ahead, Im not European, I dont give a shite, but you better try harder than this. a map of Europe looks like a map of the US, everything touches, and its not like we locked down any states. Americas greatest blessing has always been the oceans, the same thing that kept us safe in two world wars bought us weeks to prepare for this. we wasted that.
we banned travel from Europe before Europe banned travel among its members
so if Trump failed, Europe super failed, correct?
re: The Democrats are principally running on COVID is ALL Trump's fault!
Posted by 451 on 8/12/20 at 6:17 pm to Ghost of Colby
quote:thats literally the entire point. we knew the virus was worldwide, we knew it was everywhere, yet he only banned flights from one place. if the ban from China was a huge success, then not banning them Europe was a huge failure.
That’s a lot of work, timelines, and selective quotes & facts. Unfortunately, it’s irrelevant and very little of it is applicable.
The early outbreak in the state Washington was from China. That’s it. The vast majority of cases since then until now came from Europe.
a flight ban is the number one thing maga brags about, and even that was a complete disaster.
quote:trumps ban is only for direct flights. flights that start in China but stop somewhere first were never banned, they come to the US all the time. or you could just fly to Hong Kong, thats never been on the ban list. which is like banning flights from the US but not NYC.
Don't forget about Cuomo circumventing the travel ban by allowing flights from Canada with Chinese nationals into NYC.
and this is the thing maga says trump did right.
quote:this is what happens when you rely on facebook memes for information. you have no idea whats going on in the world.
Why would Trump be taking the threat of the virus back in Jan and Feb differently than he did when Fauci and the rest of the nation's experts were telling everybody (on national TV) that Coronavirus was a "minuscule" threat compared to the real threat, which was the annual flu in their expert opinion.
if nothing else, we watched this ravage Italy, we watched it race through Europe and the UK, we saw it in real time, on a daily basis. we knew that was coming for us, but trump didnt ban any of those flights did he.
re: The Democrats are principally running on COVID is ALL Trump's fault!
Posted by 451 on 8/12/20 at 5:44 pm to Y.A. Tittle
quote:you said they didnt expalin what he did wrong. but they did, he didnt take it seriously. He never has. He still doesn't.
So, since the thread is about what the two individuals at the top of the democratic ticket at least implying what they might have done differently, what were either of them saying or doing (one is a sitting Senator) about this during that timeframe?
I know the point is quite literally a "whataboutism" because that is what the complaint is.
Ill play devils advocate with you:
lets say people on this board are right and masks do nothing in regards to COVID, or if they do then we dont need social distancing. Therefore its no big deal that trump never wears one, and its cute when he encourages crowds to ignore that stuff.
The official CDC policy is still...
"Social distancing should be practiced in combination with other everyday preventive actions to reduce the spread of COVID-19, including wearing masks.
So what the frick is our policy? What are we supposed to be doing? Why are the Surgeon General and CDC saying to do things that trump doesnt do? What is the plan here?
It is mid August. Its been 8 months.
literally all he had to do was take it seriously. we knew China was stalling and hiding shite, everyone did, but trump just wanted this to go away so when China told him what he wanted to hear he didnt question it for a second.
remember when he used to say it would just magically die off all by itself?
Xi is the one who told him that.
LINK ]FEBRUARY 12 - "I had a long talk with President Xi — for the people in this room — two nights ago, and he feels very confident. He feels very confident. And he feels that, again, as I mentioned, by April or during the month of April, the heat, generally speaking, kills this kind of virus."
remember when he used to say it would just magically die off all by itself?
Xi is the one who told him that.
LINK ]FEBRUARY 12 - "I had a long talk with President Xi — for the people in this room — two nights ago, and he feels very confident. He feels very confident. And he feels that, again, as I mentioned, by April or during the month of April, the heat, generally speaking, kills this kind of virus."
LINK ]JANUARY 25 - China reports the outbreak is accelerating and is being spread by “hidden carriers.”
LINK ]JANUARY 25 - “At least five cases were also reported in Hong Kong, two in Macau.”
the travel ban, btw, does not include Hong Kong and Macau, and at least 8,000 Chinese citizens have flown back and forth to the US.
LINK ]JANUARY 26 - China now has 56M people now under quarantine, but the mayor of Wuhan says five million left before travel was restricted.
LINK ]JANUARY 29 - Trump: "I think our relationship with China now might be the best it's been in a long, long time."
LINK ]JANUARY 29 - Massive nationwide PPE shortages begin.
LINK ]JANUARY 29 - White House memo outlines "a full-blown pandemic, imperiling the lives of millions of Americans.”
LINK ]JANUARY 30 - Trump: “We think we have it very well under control. We have very little problem in this country at this moment — five — and those people are all recuperating successfully. But we’re working very closely with China and other countries, and we think it’s going to have a very good ending for us … that I can assure you.”
LINK ]JANUARY 30 - One day BEFORE trump announces his travel ban, airlines suspend service to China on their own, including United, Delta, American Airlines, British Airways, Air Seoul, Lufthansa, Cathay Pacific, Finnair, Air Asia, Air India, Air Canada, All Nippon, Asiana Airlines and Korean Air.
LINK ]JANUARY 30 - WHO declares a global emergency as new cases confirmed in India, Philippines, Russia, Spain, Sweden and the United Kingdom, Australia, Canada, Germany, Japan, Singapore, the US, the UAE and Vietnam.
LINK ]JANUARY 31 - Trumps travel ban from parts of China is announced. It will take effect in 2 days.
HANNITY - Coronavirus ... how concerned are you?
TRUMP - Well, we pretty much shut it down coming in from China. We have a tremendous relationship with China, which is a very positive thing ... So we're gonna see what happens, but we did shut it down, yes.
LINK ]FEBRUARY 2 - the travel ban from parts of China begins. Among the many loopholes, it excludes American citizens and their families, who still flew back and forth. You could even fly there for an adoption. It also only applied to direct flights, and thousands were able to fly to the US from China by making a stop somewhere first. When they arrived, only a small fraction are screened or quarantined.
LINK ]JANUARY 25 - “At least five cases were also reported in Hong Kong, two in Macau.”
the travel ban, btw, does not include Hong Kong and Macau, and at least 8,000 Chinese citizens have flown back and forth to the US.
LINK ]JANUARY 26 - China now has 56M people now under quarantine, but the mayor of Wuhan says five million left before travel was restricted.
LINK ]JANUARY 29 - Trump: "I think our relationship with China now might be the best it's been in a long, long time."
LINK ]JANUARY 29 - Massive nationwide PPE shortages begin.
LINK ]JANUARY 29 - White House memo outlines "a full-blown pandemic, imperiling the lives of millions of Americans.”
LINK ]JANUARY 30 - Trump: “We think we have it very well under control. We have very little problem in this country at this moment — five — and those people are all recuperating successfully. But we’re working very closely with China and other countries, and we think it’s going to have a very good ending for us … that I can assure you.”
LINK ]JANUARY 30 - One day BEFORE trump announces his travel ban, airlines suspend service to China on their own, including United, Delta, American Airlines, British Airways, Air Seoul, Lufthansa, Cathay Pacific, Finnair, Air Asia, Air India, Air Canada, All Nippon, Asiana Airlines and Korean Air.
LINK ]JANUARY 30 - WHO declares a global emergency as new cases confirmed in India, Philippines, Russia, Spain, Sweden and the United Kingdom, Australia, Canada, Germany, Japan, Singapore, the US, the UAE and Vietnam.
LINK ]JANUARY 31 - Trumps travel ban from parts of China is announced. It will take effect in 2 days.
HANNITY - Coronavirus ... how concerned are you?
TRUMP - Well, we pretty much shut it down coming in from China. We have a tremendous relationship with China, which is a very positive thing ... So we're gonna see what happens, but we did shut it down, yes.
LINK ]FEBRUARY 2 - the travel ban from parts of China begins. Among the many loopholes, it excludes American citizens and their families, who still flew back and forth. You could even fly there for an adoption. It also only applied to direct flights, and thousands were able to fly to the US from China by making a stop somewhere first. When they arrived, only a small fraction are screened or quarantined.
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