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Pediatricians aren’t split into “good ones” and “bad ones” on vaccines. They’re navigating a range of defensible responses shaped by real constraints. Professional guidance (e.g. AAP/AMA) explicitly allows multiple approaches - continued engagement, risk-mitigating accommodations, declining new patients, or yes, eventual dismissal - depending on context. The key drivers are practical and ethical variables like local access to care, the presence of vulnerable patients, outbreak risk, clinic capacity, and the clinician’s judgment about what best protects this child & others, etc.. So when you see different practices handling unvaccinated kids differently, that’s not chaos, it’s the predictable result of applying shared principles under very different conditions.
They pose risk to kids who are too young/sick to be vaccinated. Have you seen measles complications in an immunocompromised child?
They'd make much more money treating vaccine-preventable diseases than by vaccinating kids which they do anyway because vaccines prevent disease in those who get vaccines and in those who aren't able to be vaccinated due to age/immaturity or health condition.
What you’re describing actually explains why Q can’t ever be “wrong”: ambiguity and misdirection turn failed predictions into features, not bugs, and shift responsibility for coherence onto the audience. That’s effective for identity-building and “feeling awake”, but it abandons basic norms for knowing. Claims that matter should narrow possibilities over time and be answerable to outcomes. Once ambiguity is treated as a virtue, there’s no clear way to distinguish insight from projection, only participation from non-participation.
The beauty of Q-heurmeneutics is the answer will be different for everyone. As an analogy, in rhetoric, when you leave out a part of an argument (usually the weakest part), your audience is left to fill in the blank with whatever they desire or fear and when they ask you explicitly own it, you can slide and dance and disown implications ("I didn't mean that"). Q posts are a little like that. The future proves past idea allows you to shoehorn whatever you like into the vague "predictions". It could be one thing today, something else tomorrow.
Why is opt out (the current policy) not good enough?
That was a side benefit. The main benefits are protecting yourself from diseases and protecting other people. Plus, those vaccines are needed in all sorts of walks of life. You can't work as a health care worker or serve in the military without them (and for good reason).
there are going to be tradeoffs. I had my kids vaccinated because I thought the health benefits were significant and risks were minimal relative to the benefit, plus it allows them to go to a school with kids who have health problems they wouldn't otherwise because their parents wouldn't expose them to risk. It's helped my kids develop some empathy for those with health problems - not a bad thing.
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The onus should never be on one child to protect another.

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Any politics that operationalizes this will have to make peace with considerably more preventable diseases, deaths, disability, and higher healthcare costs.
That's a significant health issue that you were right to be concerned about. Even if there was a HIV vaccine I don't think it would be school-mandated, though, because in the general case HIV isn't a risk to casual contact.
Not everyone can be vaccinated and vaccines aren't 100% effective.
Unless you're having sex at school or sharing needles there, HIV+ kids aren't a risk for transmitting that virus. Not so for the other diseases that schools require being vaccinated for which are passed through breathing/coughing.
yep. “Don’t ban it, just sue them” assumes corporations won’t spend billions ensuring you can never quite prove causation and history suggests that they absolutely will. And DDT and lead got ultimately got regulated because doubt worked too well, foiling legal liability.
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Thoughtful post and I agree with you on the importance of a real uncertainty about what a post-Putin Russia looks like. Nevertheless, they're not a blank slate, but are operating under some critical constraints on future possibilities - a weakened great power negotiating from dependency.

Their historical norm is centralized authority, militarization, repression, and buffer-seeking while examples of retreating from that (e.g under Gorbachev/Yeltsin) are unfortunately anomalies. The last time we had detente was under a condition of collapse and western democracy/capitalism looked like the only plausible alternative for them, which isn't the case anymore. Now China gives them a model and a patron.

So, for me, not helping Ukraine isn’t about certainty that Russia will expand next, but about bounding risk and not placing a bad bet on an unlikely transformation. Where the adminstration actually seems to be going though is to be adopting bit of Russia's "near-abroad" strategy ourselves and returning to multi-polar politics and letting them have their corner of the world (as they see it, Eastern Europe).
Yeah, I think that’s exactly the point & it’s not an accident. Outlets like the Daily Mail don’t need to invent facts. They just pick the most emotionally loaded reading of an ambiguous term and let the audience do the rest. “Trafficking” stays vague, “sex trafficking” lights the moral fuse, and by the time anyone checks details the thread has already done the work for them.

Btw, Placekicker (OP) disappearing is part of the pattern. The post isn’t there to discuss, it’s there to trigger and harvest reactions.
lol yes. Nobody’s denying abuse exists. The problem is that “trafficking” now covers everything from custody disputes to cartel shite, so everyone’s yelling about a different movie in their head.
Ah, the wait and see if Russia gets less nationalist/imperialist strategy. :lol: