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re: Dyson vs Herb season long thread

Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 1/8/26 at 2:40 pm to Townedrunkard
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Missed the game last night, but looks like Dyson was a couple assists and Rebs away from a triple double. Also had three steals in a blowout W.

Guessing he played ok?


I'd luv to have DD back with Pels...BUT...honesty compels to say that he has a MAJOR problem with his offensive game...and the Hawks are doing the exact opposite of what they should be doing...to help him with his problem.

I assume you know that he is now shooting 11.7% from 3-pt range for this entire season....and 30.2 for his career. His shot doesn't appear to be THAT bad or "broken" as they say BUT I think he probably has a pretty severe "mental" problem & now he basically just pretty much refuses to take even the wide open 3s.

The cure...if there is one...is for the Hawks to FORCE DD to take the open 3s...no matter how many he misses in a row. This is NOT a situation you want to allow to continue. At some point, it becomes VERY hard for a young player to come out of it. Regular season games mean little to nothing for a team like the Hawks at this point. MAKE THE GUY SHOOT THE 3 !!

Like I've said...I luv the guy and wish we could get him back...but...

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re: Trae Young Traded to Wizards

Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 1/7/26 at 10:07 pm to Townedrunkard
For anybody that wondered what Trae was "worth"...now you know
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re: I used to be a Herb Jones fan

Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 1/7/26 at 9:36 am to SEC Doctor
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Look at Herb's 3-pt shooting percentage by season:

.337
.335
.418
.306
.333

He is who he is as a shooter. The one good season is a clear outlier.


Looks like Herb needs to go...assuming we can get a solid offer for him. Guess we'll find out fairly soon. That .306 3-pt shooting percentage might turn out to be the "norm"...from here on.
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re: Pels vs Lakers

Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 1/6/26 at 7:05 pm to Peytonknows
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Herb playing tonight.


At least I've got a good reason to watch tonight. I expect Herb to be "en fuego" from that right corner tonight.
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re: Getting close so...assuming OKC decides, as they SHOULD...that they want Herb Jones...

Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 12/29/25 at 8:35 pm to Colonel Flagg
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Whose minutes is Herb taking on those teams? I don't see either team having a real need for him.


He is easily a sixth man or starter with someone else coming off the bench.

I think he is an upgrade over Dort for OKC.

I think Herb can be a solid foundational piece for the Pels. He is locked up for years on a reasonable contract.


Dort would go to the bench...& fwiw...he won't be back with OKC next season.

For the Spurs...it would definitely be the 33 year old Harrison Barnes going to the bench. Still a quite useful player off the bench...but can't handle heavy minutes like he once could. Plus,,,HB is on an expiring & would need to be resigned at 34 years old...if they want him back.
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re: Getting close so...assuming OKC decides, as they SHOULD...that they want Herb Jones...

Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 12/29/25 at 2:46 pm to BGpels
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If miraculously Kawhi stays healthy they will be in the play-in. With the way he is playing and their schedule they will be the 10 seed in couple of weeks.
So unless OKC gives us some of Cason Wallace or Ajay Mitchell it's not the best offer we can get.


I used to think the main targets for a Herb trade...were Lakers and Warriors. Now...I think those targets are OKC and Spurs. Both these teams have more to offer than the Lakers or Warriors...in a trade for Herb.

Many would look at OKC and say...they don't have THAT big a need for Herb as other teams do. But, it gets a bit more complicated than that from a Thunder "point of view"...imo. Things are about to get really testy in the West and the Thunder have an obvious #1 problem fast approaching...The Spurs. Presti can see this coming already...and he knows Wemby is only gonna get better and better. Based on recent events...many think the Spurs have already caught the Thunder.

Now...suddenly a talent like Herb Jones becomes available for the Spurs to pick up in a trade...to compete with the Thunder. Presti can NOT be happy. Does he just sit back and hope the Spurs don't land Herb...NOT LIKELY. I smell a bidding war for the Herbster beyween OKC & the Spurs. GREAT situation for our Pels...imo

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re: Getting close so...assuming OKC decides, as they SHOULD...that they want Herb Jones...

Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 12/28/25 at 6:42 pm to Broski
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You have to trade Herb and Trey (and Zion, but that's a given) this season/offseason before the draft.

Herb may be my favorite Pels player of all-time, but the unfortunate truth of all of this is that we botched the Zion era so bad, that those contracts no longer matchup with our timeline.

Accept it, we need to start over and do a full on rebuild with Fears and Queen as the beginning of a new core. By the time we get to the point where they are entering their prime, Herb, Trey and Zion's contracts will be running out and they are sure as shite not re-signing with us.

We need to use those three now to get back into the lottery and then tank next year for another lottery pick.

Stop thinking that we can make one or two moves that can maybe push into the play-in or playoffs, that does us no good. We need to bottom out.


Can't disagree with any of this...and too many teams are interested in Herb. He will probably be gone in February. Hard to say "when"...on Zion and even Trey.
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re: Getting close so...assuming OKC decides, as they SHOULD...that they want Herb Jones...

Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 12/28/25 at 2:17 pm to Colonel Flagg
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If we are picking between those picks. I would not trade Herb for anything less than the Clippers pick.


Since I can expertly predict the future...I hereby predict.. that will end up being the #9 overall pick in the 2026 draft.

I could live with that for the Pels...how about you?

EDIT: Plus OKC would need to kick in somebody...as a salary match...that would also hopefully benefit the Pels
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re: Getting close so...assuming OKC decides, as they SHOULD...that they want Herb Jones...

Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 12/28/25 at 12:54 pm to bigbonvi
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We need future assets more than we need win now guys that could net a first. I realize building around queen and fears is gonna take time. Super stars become consistent superstars at what, around year 5 in the league? I’m good with sending him out for a first that has top 20 potential. I’d def insist on their best potential first. That’s just me


I imagine the Pels would luv to trade Herb for Clips pick...which is pretty much guaranteed to be a lottery pick. Most likely to be somewhere in top 7 or so. Can't see Thunder going that direction. Rest of NBA is terrified of Thunder ending up with a top 3 pick with this Clippers option.
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Getting close so...assuming OKC decides, as they SHOULD...that they want Herb Jones...

Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 12/28/25 at 12:34 pm
---would you trade Herb to Thunder for just ONE of their 1st round picks in 2026?

List of current best possibilities:
Clippers 1st round pick (unprotected) & Clips currently sit at #5
76ers 1st round pick (top 4 protected) & 76ers currently sit at #17
Utah 1st round pick (top 8 protected) & Jazz currently sit at #8
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re: Pels vs Suns

Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 12/27/25 at 9:16 pm to BGpels
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Last two games showed how important Herb is for that team. So if we end up trading him, better be for 3-4 firsts.


I think we'll end up getting 2 FRPs for Herb...Lakers don't have the "picks" available to do that. I used to think it would be Lakers or Warriors...but, as strange as it sounds...I'm starting to think the Thunder might end up in the Herb sweepstakes.

Thunder just have SO many FRPs...and I think they are starting to worry about the Spurs. But, who knows?
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re: Jordan Poole

Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 12/27/25 at 11:16 am to ThePistol
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I was at the game tonight, did anyone else notice when Booker got the tech for hitting the ball out of bounds, Pool ran to the ft line. Trey looked at him like “what the hell are you doing?” It was a weird moment. Did they say anything about it on the broadcast?


Same thing happened in a game MUCH earlier this year. Nobody seemed to notice it at the time, when Trey was headed to the line...but Poole beat him there...Poole then said something to Trey and Trey just kinda shrugged and backed off. I knew right then and there...this Poole clown wasn't gonna be around very long.

I don't know who's the "leader" of this team is...but I know who it ISN'T...and that's this Poole prick. If it's anywhere close %-wise...you go with your "leader". It's happened twice now...first under Willie...then under JB. I think both were caught off-guard by Poole's action...but if I'm the Coach...I'd probably just call TO when Poole jumped to the line...and tell Trey to shoot the FT...when you come back on the court.

NO way am I gonna reward a "loser" like Poole...over Trey. In fact, if Trey was out of the game...and it came down to Poole or Herb...I'd tell Poole to get his sorry arse off the line...and send Herb up there.
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re: Dyson vs Herb season long thread

Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 12/22/25 at 1:56 pm to supe12sta12z
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Not really.... Dyson isn't going to suddenly be a good shooter. There's enough of a sample size to say he's probably going to be always be mediocre shooting who can get streaky. His free throw percentage is a good indicator. Now you can hope he becomes an outlier and buck the trend but I wouldn't gamble on that.


Without getting too deeply into the weeds...there's a fairly large "school of thought" that thinks Aussie players are, by and large, quite a bit below average on outside shooting due to the nature of their basketball training as they develope in their youth. Kinda the exact opposite of the European players.

Who knows...but it seems there's a whole bunch of really lousy Aussie shooters out there...in the NBA. VERY good players...but VERY bad...outside shooters.

FWIW: DD, for the season, is now down to 13.7% on 3s at 7-52 through 30 games. Being totally ignored at the 3-pt line...with "5s" guarding him more & more often...by just standing in the paint & daring him to shoot.
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re: Dyson vs Herb season long thread

Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 12/16/25 at 9:39 am to BigPerm30
I luv both players...they are fairly close on defense...DD is better rebounder & better at finishing around basket...Herb is better 3-pt shooter & free throw shooter. Neither should shoot from beyond 8' unless it is a 3-pt shot.

If you watch DD...you realize his outside shooting has become seriously HORRIBLE...confidence is totally shot. He's shooting 15.3% from 3 on 7-44...it's really hard to shoot that poorly on uncontested 3s...they have basically stopped guarding him at the 3-pt line & many teams have started guarding him with their "5", who just lingers in the paint & clogs things up inside. His shot is flat out "broken"...and I'm not sure if it's physical or mental...this situation will only get worse if he doesn't fix it...somehow.

ANY serious contender would prefer to add Herb to their roster rather than DD. Not really close...at this time. But...things can always change...we'll see.

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re: Pels v Bulls, the early return of Z

Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 12/14/25 at 7:27 pm to Peytonknows
Almost like somebody has told Herb to shoot a bunch of 3s...for some reason
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re: Assuming Pels might be trading Herb and/or Trey in near future...

Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 12/14/25 at 12:57 pm to cgrand
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why do you randomly capitalize words in your posts? is it Tourette's?


I think I do it merely to emphasize a particular word or group of words. I find it a way to possibly make my meaning a bit more clear...when NOT speaking "in person".

As for Tourette's...not applicable in my case...although I am definitely "on the spectrum" as far as autism is concerned. Got a brother that is waaaaay more autistic...but he is still very functional. I personally think that MANY people are "on the spectrum"...to some degree or another.

If it's not obvious, by now...I tend to over-think...just about every subject I
discuss. In a GOOD way...imo. My wife says she doesn't understand how I can go through life that way...I say...I don't understand how she DOESN'T.
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re: Assuming Pels might be trading Herb and/or Trey in near future...

Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 12/14/25 at 10:56 am to TeamCKennedy
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Zion not Trey.


I doubt any seriously-contending team would be interested in Zion...especially if they were asked to give up first round picks...which is exactly what the Pels should be looking for in any trade.

Pels would obviously like to move Zion...but I'd guess it would be in a separate deal...from a Herb/Trey deal.
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Assuming Pels might be trading Herb and/or Trey in near future...

Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 12/14/25 at 10:36 am
---it seems to me that the Warriors...rather than the Lakers...would be a much better target for Pelicans to strike a deal with...given Warriors have several first round picks they can send to the Pelicans.

---IF...Warriors don't somehow make a move and get the "Greek Freak"...I could easily see them going after BOTH Herb and Trey...in what SHOULD be a very good deal for the Pelicans...long term.
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re: Why was Herb ejected last night?

Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 12/12/25 at 9:08 am to 3PieceSpicy
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I upvoted bc I hate Zion, but I hope you aren't right. I do think Herb is overrated defensively, but maybe he's frustrated about losing and it's making act out in ways that are unusual for him. Maybe he feels like he's got to bark at the refs for the team to get some respect. Think about our team. We don't have 1 guy that the refs respect/fear. Maybe he's adopting that role. We did win tonight, so maybe it worked.


Can't see us getting a whole lot outta Herb for the next few weeks. Just doesn't "fit" with our current style of play. I can't imagine us keeping Herb when he becomes eligible to be traded...assuming we can get a decent return for him. Not sure the Lakers have enough future "picks" to offer other than a 2031 first rounder...although Herb would fit quite well with them.

Warriors actually have more to offer for Herb than the Lakers...but who knows...maybe NOBODY really wants the Herbster and I have him overrated.

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re: Pels willing to listen to offers for Trey and Herb

Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 12/6/25 at 9:40 am to WB504
I'd guess a Herb trade probably comes down to either Golden State or the Lakers. Warriors seem to have more to offer...but Lakers would probably benefit MORE...from landing Herb...so they might get very creative to make it happen.
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re: Pelicans will accept “first decent, reasonable offer” for Zion

Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 12/5/25 at 10:43 am to brmark70816
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He's hurt right now. They said he would be back in a week two weeks ago. Any idea when he's coming back?

Regardless, like you said, he can't be traded until after 1/15. There is a lot that will change before that time. No telling what the market will be then.


I'm not too worried about his present "injury"...as far as his trade value is concerned. But assuming we DO end up trading him...I'd guess we want to do as much as possible to make sure he doesn't get any added injuries between now and 1/15. So...I'm not expecting to get a whole lot from Herb..in the next month or so...jmo...I COULD be wrong.
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