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Hankster2
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Alabama had very little success beating LSU when Saban was LSU's coach and LSU has had very little success beating Alabama while Saban has been Alabama's coach... but it's interesting this all boils down to program-level cheating.
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re: Bama - Tua is making it REALLY hard to hate you
Posted by Hankster2 on 1/9/18 at 11:42 pm to KyleOrtonsMustache
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If God isn’t real, why did he make Jesus’ Birthday during Toyotathon? Checkmate atheists.
I don't know why I made it this far into this derailed thread.
Thanks for making it worthwhile.
Being a watcher of both teams, I'd say this: The Ole Miss onside-kick recovery and quick-strike touchdown were a huge letdown from a fan perspective in terms of team performance. That being said, they were probably the first major letdowns in execution so far this season.
Every team provides let down moments like that. I think the difference squarely lies in the frequency.
Every team provides let down moments like that. I think the difference squarely lies in the frequency.
World traveler, huh? Last time I checked Sukhumvit was in Bangkok, which is quite a ways from Chiang Mai.
re: Tiger fan in Seattle
Posted by Hankster2 on 12/26/12 at 3:06 pm to Keltic Tiger
The Attic in Madison Park has always been an SEC-friendly bar if you don't want to deal with down town. I don't recall Kells being a particularly great place to watch a game. The Fremont Dock - while not an SEC or LSU bar - is a great place to catch games. Lots of TV's so there's no problem getting your game on.
re: So have we heard from the Bama fan...
Posted by Hankster2 on 11/8/12 at 6:07 pm to Random LSU Hero
I may be naive but I've done this twice in full Bama gear - 1996 and 2008 (Saban's return). I haven't had any major issues. Of course each time I was with a couple LSU friends and I'm always in polite mode. There's usually a few jeers and maybe a couple harmless projectiles thrown in the first 5 minutes, but generally once people realize you're not there to start anything and you manage a civil conversation with your neighbors things are OK.
It's definitely the best place to watch a game for my money.
Just saying (much like this forum) if you're respectful of where you are it isn't as bad as it's made out to be.
It's definitely the best place to watch a game for my money.
Just saying (much like this forum) if you're respectful of where you are it isn't as bad as it's made out to be.
It's a sad day when Sean Payton's lawyer has to cruise tigerdroppings for legal advice.
Reasons for Withholding Bounty Evidence
Posted by Hankster2 on 4/17/12 at 6:06 pm
Seems odd that the NFL would completely withhold evidence from the NFLPA in regards to the bounty evidence especially since it will only hinder them in levying suspensions against Saints players.
If they do go ahead with suspensions I would imagine that at some point the NFLPA is going to call them out in public for holding court behind closed doors. Why fight that battle if you don't have to? They must have a pretty good reason for doing so.
The first thing that comes to mind is that the evidence they have may implicate other teams. So far this is about the only reasonable explanation I can come up with. Otherwise, why wouldn't you throw the NFLPA a bone considering you have 18,000 pages of documentation.
Considering the player turnover in the NFL I have a hard time believing that with 18,000 pages of documentation there isn't a considerable amount of information outlining or at least implying the existence of similar systems throughout the league.
Not trying to start another "other teams do it" thread. Just discussing why the NFL appears to be putting a stranglehold on their evidence. They claim to have 18,000 pages but so far the reports are that they have yet to communicate a single piece of that evidence with the NFLPA.
If they do go ahead with suspensions I would imagine that at some point the NFLPA is going to call them out in public for holding court behind closed doors. Why fight that battle if you don't have to? They must have a pretty good reason for doing so.
The first thing that comes to mind is that the evidence they have may implicate other teams. So far this is about the only reasonable explanation I can come up with. Otherwise, why wouldn't you throw the NFLPA a bone considering you have 18,000 pages of documentation.
Considering the player turnover in the NFL I have a hard time believing that with 18,000 pages of documentation there isn't a considerable amount of information outlining or at least implying the existence of similar systems throughout the league.
Not trying to start another "other teams do it" thread. Just discussing why the NFL appears to be putting a stranglehold on their evidence. They claim to have 18,000 pages but so far the reports are that they have yet to communicate a single piece of that evidence with the NFLPA.
re: Fujita first to speak truth or B.S.? You call it.
Posted by Hankster2 on 4/17/12 at 5:15 pm to cuddlemonkey
It's odd that the NFL is withholding evidence from the NFLPA when it's obvious this will hinder them from laying more wood in a situation where probably 31 out of 32 NFL fans would like to see them do so.
That begs the question: Does the evidence they have implicate other teams? That's the first thing that comes to mind and seems like a reasonable explanation for the secrecy in regards to the evidence.
It just seems odd that they can't offer the NFLPA representatives a shred of proof when they claim to have 18,000 pages of documentation.
That begs the question: Does the evidence they have implicate other teams? That's the first thing that comes to mind and seems like a reasonable explanation for the secrecy in regards to the evidence.
It just seems odd that they can't offer the NFLPA representatives a shred of proof when they claim to have 18,000 pages of documentation.
re: Clayton says Saints and Brees now 2 mil apart
Posted by Hankster2 on 4/17/12 at 4:22 pm to Patrick O Rly
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No. At least he's not suppose to.
The only statements I've seen are that Payton can't attend NFL games, have contact with Saints employees, or communicate with the team through a third-party. Brees is not an employee.
re: Clayton says Saints and Brees now 2 mil apart
Posted by Hankster2 on 4/17/12 at 3:52 pm to LibraTiger
The bright side - Payton can continue to talk strategy with Brees up until he signs.
re: Criminal charges are much more likely now (in my unsupported opinion)
Posted by Hankster2 on 4/5/12 at 2:46 pm to Mr. Hangover
If anything I would think this would lessen the chance of lawsuits against players. Being ordered by your boss to be violent in a violent game takes away the "players conspiring to injure other players" argument.
Considering that outside of these special circumstances Parcells isn't looking to get back into coaching... this makes their management look clueless. Kind of like the guy who shows up at a wedding and decides to hit on the pretty gal in the white dress.
I wonder how those numbers compare to the rest of the country?
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I do love how every gump homer has "inside info" on what the coaches at bama are doing.
This is a good point. It's really silly for any of us to pretend that we have a firm understanding of exactly what transpired in any of these scenarios especially when we're just doing it to relay a false sense of moral superiority over our rival fanbase.
Fact is not all offers are unconditional. Some are contingent on outside circumstances and no one here knows which recruit was promised what. It's not uncommon for a recruit to be told his offer could require a greyshirt contingent on numbers. I'm also doubtful that Early Enrollee status is 100% guaranteed by a coach.
All we know about Philon and Miller are that they were upset and signed with different schools because their enrollment was to be delayed.
For any of us to imply that one of those "scenarios" was on the up-and-up and the other was diabolical would imply we have some secret knowledge... which is pretty transparent.
Maybe one was lied to. Maybe both were lied to. Maybe they are 18 year old kids who heard what they wanted to hear and got upset when things didn't work out just so.
"Better"... such an arbitrary term. Better pure talent? Better season/resume? Better meaning who would win 3 out of 5 (talent + coaching)? I see people arguing all these aspects. OSU argued that they were better than Bama because they had more quality wins. Bama argued they were better than OSU because they didn't lose to a nobody. USC spent the last decade arguing they were better because of their rankings on Rivals.
Do I think Bama was a better team this year than LSU? Yes, but I'm biased. I'd like to think that the average outsider would agree, but that could also be my bias talking.
For agruments sake let me break it down from the eyes of a Bama fan:
LSU beat Bama in overtime in a game where Bama seemed to hold a statistical edge everywhere but the scoreboard. Had Bama's kickers not come out lifeless and missed 4 field goals... BUT they did, and LSU came away with the victory.
Game 2 doesn't need a recap except to say that saying "we didn't show up" goes both ways. Had our kicker not had the worst performance of his life...
If you want to stick with game results then it's 1-1 and LSU won the SEC and Bama won the NC. If you want to break down the performances so you can argue LSU was clearly the better team... I don't see that as being a very easy argument.
My point isn't to harass, but rather to say that as usual both sides have their reasoning for why they underperformed in one of the encounters, and at this point as usual it doesn't matter.
Do I think Bama was a better team this year than LSU? Yes, but I'm biased. I'd like to think that the average outsider would agree, but that could also be my bias talking.
For agruments sake let me break it down from the eyes of a Bama fan:
LSU beat Bama in overtime in a game where Bama seemed to hold a statistical edge everywhere but the scoreboard. Had Bama's kickers not come out lifeless and missed 4 field goals... BUT they did, and LSU came away with the victory.
Game 2 doesn't need a recap except to say that saying "we didn't show up" goes both ways. Had our kicker not had the worst performance of his life...
If you want to stick with game results then it's 1-1 and LSU won the SEC and Bama won the NC. If you want to break down the performances so you can argue LSU was clearly the better team... I don't see that as being a very easy argument.
My point isn't to harass, but rather to say that as usual both sides have their reasoning for why they underperformed in one of the encounters, and at this point as usual it doesn't matter.
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Does he also know just who got what car?
I just asked him. He said he couldn't remember what kind of car Jordan Jefferson got, only that it didn't run and had no option(s).
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Why does Alabama get to sign 28?
We couldn't take a full 25 last year because we'd have gone over our 85 limit. Counting the ones that didn't make it we only took 21 in last year's class (these are all guesses since, as Saban has stated, only HE knows who's actually on scholarship).
Graduating a big senior class and losing 3 juniors to the draft we now have plenty of room under the 85-limit so we can take 4 extras and count them against last years 21.
It's a pretty common occurence.
re: So Ensminger and Stud are going to lock up NLA right?
Posted by Hankster2 on 1/13/12 at 5:38 pm to ItsThatDude12
Anyone who believes Bama is on a different level than LSU just needs to look back at the series over the past 5 or so years. You don't lose 2 in a row when you're on "another level".
Fact of the matter is we split the series this year and next year we lose more talent than you do.
It's going to be a back and forth battle for the foreseeable future.
Currently we have an edge in stars on rivals and so far that accounts for d*ck.
Fact of the matter is we split the series this year and next year we lose more talent than you do.
It's going to be a back and forth battle for the foreseeable future.
Currently we have an edge in stars on rivals and so far that accounts for d*ck.
Are you guys talking about "Randall"?
re: ODB, Landry, Wright, Fobbs, Williams, Avery Johnson, Travin Dural
Posted by Hankster2 on 1/12/12 at 8:19 pm to KielandsCalves
Here's the issue as I see it:
Your combined receiving corps (the guys you listed above) holds < 550 career receiving yards and you're breaking in a new QB while returning a STACKED backfield. You guys always have a good O-line.
Do you think Miles gets creative or opts for a run-heavy-is-an-understatement offense?
Your combined receiving corps (the guys you listed above) holds < 550 career receiving yards and you're breaking in a new QB while returning a STACKED backfield. You guys always have a good O-line.
Do you think Miles gets creative or opts for a run-heavy-is-an-understatement offense?
Just curious what your WR corps looks like next year now that RS, RR, JG, and KB are leaving? Who are your projected starters and what does depth look like? I know you guys have a good one returning in Odell Beckham Jr.
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Of the starters who is coming back?
Offense we lose:
RB - Richardson
C - Vlachos
G - McCullough
WR (2) - Maze, Hanks
HB/TE - Smelley
Defense:
NG - Chapman
LB (3) - Harris, Hightower, Upshaw
CB (2) - Kirkpatrick, Menzie
S - Barron
Here's the way I see it:
QB - better (probably not as big of an increase as you guys will see though)
RB - drop off
OL - better
WR - push... possibly better
DL - push... possibly better
LB - drop off
CB - drop off
S - push
Kicking/Special Teams - better
QB should improve. McCarron made huge strides as the season progressed and is showing the ability to progress through his reads and make all the throws.
RB will take a dropoff obviously but you saw that Eddie Lacey is no slouch and preseason sensation Dee Hart should be returning from injury. Dee was injured before the season started but by all accounts was the #2 back and was really impressing so I think the drop off will be about as minimal as you could hope for losing a guy like TR.
O-Line should actually be better with AA Barrett Jones not declaring and early-season almost-starter Cyrus Kouandjio returning from injury. One guard spot and the 2 tackle spots will most likely be locked up even without BJ and he's played every position on the line so can plug in anywhere.
WR's lose a lot of experience but we have some younger and potentially more talented receivers who have played a lot and the hope is that big-bodied transfer Duron Carter (Chris Carter's son) should be eligible. All reports are that he's a beast and he has game experience playing for Ohio State as a freshman. He's spent the year on campus so he should know the offense by now.
Chapman had lots of experience so we'll need someone to step up in the NG position since we also lose the first guy off the bench in Gentry. Jesse Williams returns and considering he's only been playing football for a few years, an extra year in the system means he's still in the thick of his learning curve. Aside from Gentry and Chapman I believe we return the rest of the starters and backups.
We lose a lot of game changers at LB but fortunately that's one of the more talented areas of our roster (unless the CJ Moseley injury is worse than it appears) and we have quite a few guys who have played meaningful snaps. Upshaw played Jack and finding someone with his pass-rush abilities immediately is asking too much. Hightower is also irreplaceable as a LB and as a leader. We'll have a talented but green LB corps.
Milliner has played almost as much as Menzie so he's pretty much a co-starter at DB and he's solid. Still just one DB so this is and area where we have to find someone to step up. There's talent but it's unproven. On top of losing Dre, we also lose his first backup Phelon Jones.
Barron's safety spot will probably only see a slight drop off as there's no shortage of talented backups there with meaningful game experience. I heard that some scouts projected Lester above Barron last year so the fact that he's returning is big. Barron's a great one but the guys who've stepped in when he's been out have played big.
If the Mr-All-Everything Freshman Kicker pans out then that's another huge win in the lineup. Christion Jones played extremely well returning punts when Maze went down so hopefully that's another special teams position that won't see much of a drop-off.
Probably more than you wanted, but that's my take.
Another question: Could the WR's bolting speak to what they've seen from Mett in practice? There seemed to be a lot of hope before the season that Mett could take the starting job at some point but that didn't happen.
Maybe they don't see Mett as a huge upgrade over what was there and instead just see a highly productive backfield returning while the offense tries to break in a new QB. It seems logical that that's not a recipe for increasing their draft stock.
Maybe they don't see Mett as a huge upgrade over what was there and instead just see a highly productive backfield returning while the offense tries to break in a new QB. It seems logical that that's not a recipe for increasing their draft stock.
Sounds good but the playoff scenario you're stumping for (with more teams) actually INCREASES the likelihood of a non-conference-champ winning the BCS, so I don't fully understand where the original poster is coming from. It's a pretty long stretch to assume that OSU would've beaten Bama and LSU would've beaten Stanford and OSU.
I've got a lot of sympathy for LSU in this situation but most coaches end up saying winning a NC always requires a little luck. Unfortunately with the poll-system, that's the ugly part. OSU lost. Stanford lost. That all equaled bad luck for LSU.
We had luck getting in to the game, but we DID get in. It's always been my feeling that once you lose a game you lose your ability to "demand" entrance. I think we were the 2nd best team but I'm biased and wouldn't have complained if OSU got our spot. They didn't and unfortunately for LSU you can't win a NC in the regular season.
I disagree with the 1-1 "split" argument on 2 fronts. First, we use a poll system in college football which means (unfortunately) it's a beauty contest and the two wins weren't really close in terms of "beauty". Second, it just seems like common sense that a National Championship game would have more relevance than a regular season game, especially in terms of the NC. We won emphatically and on the biggest stage. That counts for something.
I've got a lot of sympathy for LSU in this situation but most coaches end up saying winning a NC always requires a little luck. Unfortunately with the poll-system, that's the ugly part. OSU lost. Stanford lost. That all equaled bad luck for LSU.
We had luck getting in to the game, but we DID get in. It's always been my feeling that once you lose a game you lose your ability to "demand" entrance. I think we were the 2nd best team but I'm biased and wouldn't have complained if OSU got our spot. They didn't and unfortunately for LSU you can't win a NC in the regular season.
I disagree with the 1-1 "split" argument on 2 fronts. First, we use a poll system in college football which means (unfortunately) it's a beauty contest and the two wins weren't really close in terms of "beauty". Second, it just seems like common sense that a National Championship game would have more relevance than a regular season game, especially in terms of the NC. We won emphatically and on the biggest stage. That counts for something.
re: We all know Saban is the reason
Posted by Hankster2 on 1/5/12 at 3:42 pm to Ghostfacedistiller
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LSU in 2007 was not the SEC West Runner Up. Just saying.
I'm just mad our title would have had a greater legacy had we played a conf champ vs. a div runner up.
So you're saying your title would have a greater legacy if the rules were changed at the end of the season so #1 could play #3 and have an easier road to the NC?
I understand you're not wanting to play the same team twice (you have a valid argument that it's unfair), but I don't agree with your logic to get there.
re: Landon Collins Prediction Thread....
Posted by Hankster2 on 1/5/12 at 3:14 pm to Tigersomething
I still think this is nothing more than 50/50 for either side. If a recruit plays his cards right it's just too easy to manipulate the press especially considering the miniscule details the analysts jump on to form their opinions.
re: Russell Shepard could get suspended up to 6 games
Posted by Hankster2 on 8/30/11 at 6:45 pm to CamdenTiger
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Might as well redshirt and continue to improve...dang!
Unfortunately if he redshirts he'll still have to serve the suspension when he returns.
Just to clear the record... the key part of the rule you quoted is "in the field of play". The rule wouldn't apply because JJ was out of bounds and therefore not "in the field of play". That rule ONLY applies (as I said earlier) for a player that tries to come back in bounds to catch a ball. Put it like this: If a player stands 10 yards out of bounds and swats a ball back inbounds like a volleyball, is it live? Obviously not. At what point is it dead? The answer (according to the rules) is "when it touches the ground, a player, a game official or anything else that is on or outside a boundary line"
I didn't remember there being a "call" other than it "wasn't a catch" and that could be a myriad of things. I don't recall them saying "the player caught the ball out of bounds" but maybe I missed that. When I saw it I just assumed they were challenging whether it was touched (and therefore a dead ball) because it was pretty clear PP was in bounds.
That being said... I've already admitted that it was probably an INT but definitely not a bad enough call to warrant this amount of complaining.
Thanks for the congrats. Just tired of 2 weeks in a row of not being able to enjoy a victory because of people freaking out that there are occasionally bad calls in football.
I didn't remember there being a "call" other than it "wasn't a catch" and that could be a myriad of things. I don't recall them saying "the player caught the ball out of bounds" but maybe I missed that. When I saw it I just assumed they were challenging whether it was touched (and therefore a dead ball) because it was pretty clear PP was in bounds.
That being said... I've already admitted that it was probably an INT but definitely not a bad enough call to warrant this amount of complaining.
Thanks for the congrats. Just tired of 2 weeks in a row of not being able to enjoy a victory because of people freaking out that there are occasionally bad calls in football.
Just to reiterate:
The rule you quoted would apply if JJ had come back in bounds to catch the ball. Unfortunately that's not the situation.
JJ was out of bounds at the time of "touching" so the "out of bounds" rule applies.
Now that we're agreed that the "Jones touching" crap IS relevant, please notice that I'm just pointing out the rules as they apply to the situation that I saw and not calling anyone a douche.
The rule you quoted would apply if JJ had come back in bounds to catch the ball. Unfortunately that's not the situation.
JJ was out of bounds at the time of "touching" so the "out of bounds" rule applies.
Now that we're agreed that the "Jones touching" crap IS relevant, please notice that I'm just pointing out the rules as they apply to the situation that I saw and not calling anyone a douche.
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