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What did the United States intelligence say? Whatever they say, the opposite is true.


They took a position without much preliminary investigation that Russia did it. )
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Folks who admire Russia and wish to expand its power and influence.


I guess that's an actual word...
There's asiaphiles and americanophiles,lol. Literally never heard or seen that used anywhere. That's some ACLU academia vocabulary right there.
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Russophiles call it a civil war because they refuse to recognize Ukraine’s legitimacy as a nation. Putin asserts that any country with Russian speakers that’s been in the Russian empire is illegitimate.

It would be like Britain reclaiming the US then claiming they were engaging in a civil war.


A Russophile?
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Yeah I know. What difference does it make? Who are they loyal to?


Probably President Yanukovich and his administration they voted for, who was ousted by far-right.

It's basically like if Republicans ousted Brandon and his administration, and libs in Oregon and Cali decided to secede from the union. I think most conservatives would be ok with it, but who knows. Hence the civil war.
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Peter the Great St.Petersburg Polytechnic University, St. Pete Kalininsky District


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Didn’t think you could


Dude, I'm having a discussion and you spring up some random shite asking me for personal info. I'm a double major in kicking arse and taking names.

Now back to the subject.
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So a lot of Russians have been living in Ukraine and fighting a war against Ukraine backed by Russia's military. How, exactly, is that a civil war?


Not the best analogy. There are ethnic Russians living in Ukraine, like historically.Not actually Russian citizens. Though I'm sure some are or have dual citizenship.




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So hang on.

One guy has the opposition murdered regularly, and the other guy expelled those loyal to the first guy from government, so they're equally bad guys?


I wouldn't bet they weren't shot like this guy.
They killed one of the peace negotiators, Denis Kireev, because he was pushing for truce, so the far right leadership had him publicly whacked.



Looks like they gave him a beating first, and kneecapped him before shooting him in the head.





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He has a funny way of consolidating political power and eliminating opposition by targetting largely inconsequential political parties, who werent even a political threat to begin with, and only doing so after Russia invaded Ukraine. Crazy


Then why bother? Is he afraid they will gain traction if his pro-war regime will eventually become less than popular in Ukraine.

A lot of Ukrainians believe this war could have been avoided. Now look at it.
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Meanwhile, Putin poisons and jails Navalny.


I agree, it's terrible, Putin is a dictator and nobody disputes it.

But let's not white knight Zelensky and his regime as some kind of example of democracy. They are equally corrupt, they violate minority rights, and they incorporated neo-Nazis in their active military.
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Once again frick Russia and fucj all you twats quoting RT news. You are embarrassing to the free world.




KievIndepent.com and Guardian are not RT, bro.
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I am absolutely shocked a country being invaded by Russia would ban pro russian political parties. Absolutely shocked


Kinda like Trump was colluding with Russia because the media and Hillary claimed so without any real corroboration(or actually using made up dossier).

So basically far-right Kiev regime can get rid of anyone who he perceives to be "pro-Russian". I wonder how those who don't support Zelensky's regime in Ukraine feel about it? Hmmm.

This is too easy. Next.
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Hate to break this, but Zelensky consolidated News networks under one umbrella and banned opposition parties.




Yes, reply with emoji when can't write up any valid rebuttle. And dislike cited information. This is not my opinion- it's an irrefutable fact.

That's Kievindependent.com saying- it's a pro-Ukrainian media. They called him out on it. He's doing exactly what Putin is doing in Russia.

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Autocracies and dictators only care about consolidating power and now.


Hate to break this, but Zelensky consolidated News networks under one umbrella and banned opposition parties.

Muh democracy:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/20/ukraine-suspends-11-political-parties-with-links-to-russia

https://kyivindependent.com/national/how-zelensky-administration-moves-to-dismantle-press-freedom-in-ukraine/
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So USA hijacked the planes…. Or the planes weren’t real and they were actually missiles…..the passengers were fake crisis actors….

I love bookmarking your idiotic posts. You bring the laughs, Quack.


Weak strawman argument. I don't think he even remotely said anything like that.

Attack being allowed to occur due to "unintentional" oversight on the other hand, not so wild to assume given that Bush admin wanted ME war.
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Not going to happen.


May 9, 2023

After US and Europe go into full recession, Ukraine will be but an afterthought. Hell, I forgot Ukraine had war in Donbass after 2016.
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Russians cant fight


Okay...
Historically they are known for racking up huge military losses. They certainly are fond of cannon fodder strategy. No debate there.

When I saw those VDV dudes landing in the middle of Ukraine in a Hostomel in a pretty small unit, I couldn't believe who ordered such a bizarre strategy with no infantry support, armor or air superiority. It seemed crazy and a lot of those VDV dudes ended up dead or captured.
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You're a sick frick if you side with Putin.


I don't think there are conservatives who "side with Putin". We're just not supporting giving away weaponry and openly supporting the neo-con narrative that US has to engage regional powers anywhere in the world.

That being said, Putin isn't doing anything to undermine our country. Brandon and Co are.
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And you don't expect the inverse to be true?


I kinda appreciate a nuanced meme. I was left leaning in college, then went alt-right.
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the poli board meme thread is literally the worst and least funny collection of memes in any singular place on the internet


I wouldn't expect leftists to find those memes humorous.

I literally lurked on here since 2018 for the meme thread alone. Also John McCain's death thread memes were off the hook. Savage stuff. Loved it!



I mean, you can at least admit stuff like this is at least witty
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I backed out of this topic nearly 100 pages ago. I came in to read a few pages tonight and it's like the poliboard decided to invade tOT.



In b4 I'm called poli-board VDV paratrooper along with SDVTiger.
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What I saw from the screenshot was from 2019, so a good chunk of the little Hiltletrs are probably dead now. Why post something from almost 3 years ago before Russia actually invaded Ukraine for real?


According to most reports, Azov is the reason Mariupol seige hasn't ended. They are still many Azov leaders all along the Eastern front and besieged in Mariupol.

They are Ukraine's war dogs, and I suspect they have great deal of pull.
The close-mindedness of few neocons in this thread is really amusing. It's either groupthink or you're a Putin's stooge.


I already told TigerDoc that I would absolutely not rule out Putin's false flag attack in Russia in 1999 when residential buildings were blown up. There is a high likelyhood Putin and KGB were behind it because it was a pretext for Chechnya war. It made no sense for Chechens to blow random targets that would only give Russian military a green light to go scorched earth there.

Oh wait, that's something Putin bot would say as well. Hurr durr.

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It's the same exact take that leads people to believe that some Saudis with boxcutters hijacked two planes and used those two planes to take down three skyscrapers in unprecedented fashion.

Fact is, most people cannot comprehend the idea of a false flag attack. It sounds ridiculous to attack ones self no matter what someone may gain from such a thing.

Here's my rule of thumb. If the legacy media says one thing, I believe the opposite.

Would I be surprised to learn the NAZIs in Ukraine attacked their own people to drum up sympathy and assistance? Not at all.


It will wreck the reality and narrative that government cannot hurt its own people. Funny how Syria was believed to be gassing its citizens, but Ukraine would never do a false flag.
@narddogg

Nobody is eating up anything. If anything the right position is to hold your reservations before any facts come out, if they ever will.

But as poster above noted, legacy media already called the narrative and went with it, which is a red flag in and of itself.

In all this propaganda, little bits of diluted truth is there to scoop up.
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LeClerc


Oh look, a leftist calling for censorship.

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No, no, it makes far more sense that Ukraine bombed itself to make Russia look bad. Very logical.


That's a simpleton take on the matter.

Doesn't it favor Ukraine admin, which has been begging for weapons and no-fly zone, to stir up some sympathy and outrage against Russia? By killing civilians, they lose no military assets and only might end up benefiting.



Real politics and warfare is an ugly business.
Interesting breakdown regarding Zelensky not in being control of Azov militia and by extent of Ukraine forces.

You had their spokesperson issue demands and refuse to follow orders on camera. There were alleged death threats against Zelensky from Azov as well.

Something tells me Zelensky is hoping most of Azov doesn't make it out of this war.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnWF3uoPaUk

Interesting breakdown regarding Zelensky not in being control of Azov militia and by extent of Ukraine forces.

You had their spokesperson issue demands and refuse to follow orders on camera.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnWF3uoPaUk

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Jesus fricking Christ. You idiots are legitimately lapping up posts by an account less than nine days old, who is reposting literal Russian propaganda social media.


Hillary has entered the chat.